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Amazon Shop: ½ Pint Jars, Brown Rice Flour, Pressure Cooker, Vermiculite, Wild Bird Seed

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How long can PFcakes be stored after sterilization but before inoculation?
    #3724770 - 02/03/05 03:37 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

I was just wondering if anyone knew how long a vermiculite,brown rice flour, and water PFcakes would last after being pressure cooked to sterality but before inoculation?


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Re: How long can PFcakes be stored after sterilization but before inoculation? [Re: Shrooms4Less]
    #3724776 - 02/03/05 03:38 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

The sooner you use them the better. How long were you thinking??


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Re: How long can PFcakes be stored after sterilization but before inoculation? [Re: Shrooms4Less]
    #3724780 - 02/03/05 03:40 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

mostly indefinitely, provided they are not loosing or gaining moisture(sealed shut with no air exchange)

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Re: How long can PFcakes be stored after sterilization but before inoculation? [Re: LouiseLouise]
    #3724803 - 02/03/05 03:45 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

How would they be sealed shut with inoculation holes and the lid flipped upside down?? The only way I could see that happening is if you vacuum packed them or something.


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Re: How long can PFcakes be stored after sterilization but before inoculation? [Re: metasin]
    #3724811 - 02/03/05 03:49 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

I was going to basically can them using a pressure cooker and then when ready for use use a sterilized nail or ice pick to punture the four holes needed for inoculation.


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Re: How long can PFcakes be stored after sterilization but before inoculation? [Re: Shrooms4Less]
    #3724833 - 02/03/05 03:55 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

First come first served is the rule of the wild .
So the sooner you get mush spores in there the better , otherwise nasties could get in first .
2 days tops to wait to inoc IMHO , but sooner is better , like right when them suckers are cool enough .


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Re: How long can PFcakes be stored after sterilization but before inoculation? [Re: Shrooms4Less]
    #3724842 - 02/03/05 03:58 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

Sounds like ur gonna suck in a bunch of air when you do if your jars are sealed up tight. I think it would be kind of hard to not go through the vermiculite layer with the nail if you are doing it while the lid is on the jar. It doesn't take that long to make up jars and PC or steam them. I don't see why you're risking it like that.


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Re: How long can PFcakes be stored after sterilization but before inoculation? [Re: Shrooms4Less]
    #3724855 - 02/03/05 04:02 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

Do not PC them with a lid screwed on without holes!
Explosion hazard! :ooo:

I have had WBS jars I onoced 2 weeks after I prepared them. And they did  well, and did not contam.

Id say puncture the lid, put alufoil over it loosely in the PC. No moist can get in. When PC-ed ready, wrap the alufoil tight around it. Maybe with help of some rubberbands.

That way you will be safe some time, Id say a week. Maybe less maybe more.

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Re: How long can PFcakes be stored after sterilization but before inoculation? [Re: metasin]
    #3726678 - 02/03/05 09:42 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

Sorry, guys, I got side tracked. When the lids are screwed tight (see "Lids:Tight or Loose" in pf tek) and the tape is over the holes, a jar is sealed.
So, you can make holes prior to sterilization by using masking tape over the holes or band aids, or tyvek, as long as it's micropore so alien spores cannot enter.
The tek is to boil or pc with lids loose and tighten when still warm.
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