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ymhrswrider
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Can someone explain why you need birdseed for Cyans?
#3724240 - 02/03/05 10:43 AM (18 years, 11 months ago) |
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Everywhere I look it says that you need to use birdseed for cyans. What is it in birdseed that's not in popcorn or rye that makes it grow?
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Re: Can someone explain why you need birdseed for Cyans? [Re: ymhrswrider]
#3724283 - 02/03/05 10:55 AM (18 years, 11 months ago) |
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Because birdseed is the best grain is why everyone recommends it.
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Re: Can someone explain why you need birdseed for Cyans? [Re: Psychoslut]
#3724321 - 02/03/05 11:10 AM (18 years, 11 months ago) |
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because birdseeds makes you flyyy
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Anno
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Re: Can someone explain why you need birdseed for Cyans? [Re: ymhrswrider] 1
#3724368 - 02/03/05 11:24 AM (18 years, 11 months ago) |
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You can use any grain for spawn.
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Re: Can someone explain why you need birdseed for Cyans? [Re: Anno]
#3724387 - 02/03/05 11:29 AM (18 years, 11 months ago) |
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I dont know anything about cyans, are they the ones that will only fruit from wood?
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[quote]KristiMidocean said: Good now thats clear.WHO FUCKING CARES. If I am fat u all keep pointing it out like its suppose to be a secret.LIke u really have nothing better to do then make fat jokes. If o know its like I do I know yall can come up with NEW AND BETTER SHIT . This shit is old and boring . I left in the first place cause this shit got boring not because of the fat jokes . Fat jokes dont bother me but seriously its old[/quote]
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Re: Can someone explain why you need birdseed for Cyans? [Re: Psychoslut]
#3724397 - 02/03/05 11:33 AM (18 years, 11 months ago) |
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Some but not all .
Hey ANNO ... this is kinda weird and all , and not sure exactally how to ask so you know what I am aiming for but ... What is the word ...liginous ? I think that is it , but it is term used for describing a texture of a sub ? God I feel dumb ... 
But could this be why certain mushies would prefer hard type grains over corn ?
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Re: Can someone explain why you need birdseed for Cyans? [Re: ymhrswrider]
#3724398 - 02/03/05 11:34 AM (18 years, 11 months ago) |
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Anno
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Re: Can someone explain why you need birdseed for Cyans? [Re: tripndicular]
#3724403 - 02/03/05 11:36 AM (18 years, 11 months ago) |
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ligneous Synonymous for woody.
"Of or concerning wood 2, containing wood 2 ; capable of forming wood 2. Opposite of herbaceous. Syn. : ligneous. Partly woody but flexible stems like those of brambles are said to be semi-ligneous. "Woody plants" is employed to gather trees, shrubs and bushes. "Wooded" describes an area with a good wood 1 cover or a woodland atmosphere (see wooded landscape, wooded strip)."
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Re: Can someone explain why you need birdseed for Cyans? [Re: Anno]
#3724418 - 02/03/05 11:40 AM (18 years, 11 months ago) |
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Anno, you remember that time you gave me wood, it is colonised with sra. Its been in my fridge for 2 years and its still allive, i inject like 1/10 cc water in the little baggy once a every couple months when it gets dry.
Im gonna get me some jars going before too long, ill be hitting you up for some fruiting info soon.
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[quote]KristiMidocean said: Good now thats clear.WHO FUCKING CARES. If I am fat u all keep pointing it out like its suppose to be a secret.LIke u really have nothing better to do then make fat jokes. If o know its like I do I know yall can come up with NEW AND BETTER SHIT . This shit is old and boring . I left in the first place cause this shit got boring not because of the fat jokes . Fat jokes dont bother me but seriously its old[/quote]
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Re: Can someone explain why you need birdseed for Cyans? [Re: Psychoslut]
#3724435 - 02/03/05 11:44 AM (18 years, 11 months ago) |
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The process is basically the same as for P. azurescens or Psilocybe cyanescens, the difference is that the Stropharia rugoso-annulata fruit in early and late summer. They can also be cultivated by inoculationg soaked straw bales.
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Re: Can someone explain why you need birdseed for Cyans? [Re: Psychoslut]
#3724440 - 02/03/05 11:45 AM (18 years, 11 months ago) |
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Quote:
Psychoslut said: Anno, you remember that time you gave me wood, ...
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Re: Can someone explain why you need birdseed for Cyans? [Re: Anno]
#3724446 - 02/03/05 11:48 AM (18 years, 11 months ago) |
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Do I have to grow it outdoors? Whens the best time to start an outdoor bed? Just after the last frost im guessing since they fruit early summer?
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[quote]KristiMidocean said: Good now thats clear.WHO FUCKING CARES. If I am fat u all keep pointing it out like its suppose to be a secret.LIke u really have nothing better to do then make fat jokes. If o know its like I do I know yall can come up with NEW AND BETTER SHIT . This shit is old and boring . I left in the first place cause this shit got boring not because of the fat jokes . Fat jokes dont bother me but seriously its old[/quote]
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Re: Can someone explain why you need birdseed for Cyans? [Re: Anno]
#3724471 - 02/03/05 11:55 AM (18 years, 11 months ago) |
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Anno said: ligneous Synonymous for woody.
"Of or concerning wood 2, containing wood 2 ; capable of forming wood 2. Opposite of herbaceous. Syn. : ligneous. Partly woody but flexible stems like those of brambles are said to be semi-ligneous. "Woody plants" is employed to gather trees, shrubs and bushes. "Wooded" describes an area with a good wood 1 cover or a woodland atmosphere (see wooded landscape, wooded strip)."
Thanx big guy , I knew you would know what the fuck I was rambling on about .
Do you think that corn does not quite fit that criteria though ? If not... would you not agree that mushies , would do better on ligneous type of grain verse corn . And especially dealing with cyans ?
Sorry to make you do all that leg work getting a dictionary deff and all , but I was not even certain I had term close enough to mention it . Again many thanx !
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Re: Can someone explain why you need birdseed for Cyans? [Re: tripndicular]
#3724531 - 02/03/05 12:18 PM (18 years, 11 months ago) |
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Speaking of Psilocybe cyanescens now:
For first generation spawn, you want something that has many inoculation points and is nutritious. I then spawn this first spawn to sterilized wood chips, and after colonized inoculate outdoor beds with this.
As for Sra, no, you don't have to grow it outdoors, you can grow it indoors too. If you grow it outdoors, spawn the outdoor chips beds/straw in early spring.
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Re: Can someone explain why you need birdseed for Cyans? [Re: Anno]
#3724574 - 02/03/05 12:33 PM (18 years, 11 months ago) |
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Is your avator a mini wheat with eyes and a mouth? 
I bet we could grow shrooms on mini wheats.
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[quote]KristiMidocean said: Good now thats clear.WHO FUCKING CARES. If I am fat u all keep pointing it out like its suppose to be a secret.LIke u really have nothing better to do then make fat jokes. If o know its like I do I know yall can come up with NEW AND BETTER SHIT . This shit is old and boring . I left in the first place cause this shit got boring not because of the fat jokes . Fat jokes dont bother me but seriously its old[/quote]
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Re: Can someone explain why you need birdseed for Cyans? [Re: Psychoslut]
#3724576 - 02/03/05 12:34 PM (18 years, 11 months ago) |
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It's a loaf of breaf.
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Re: Can someone explain why you need birdseed for Cyans? [Re: Anno]
#3724595 - 02/03/05 12:43 PM (18 years, 11 months ago) |
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I liked it better when i thought it was a mini wheat.
You should bring back the chick with the spoon.
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Re: Can someone explain why you need birdseed for Cyans? [Re: Psychoslut]
#3724631 - 02/03/05 12:52 PM (18 years, 11 months ago) |
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Aren't Cyans only able to be fruited from Poo?
A foaf used wbs and then spawned that with poo....he didn't have enough poo for his other casing and all he got on the one w/o was several tiny wanna be pins and lots of green mossy stuff....which wasn't a contam....he didn't harm the other casing and it just looked really really strange....but point is, w/o poo, he got nothing...Gl
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Re: Can someone explain why you need birdseed for Cyans? [Re: IGnosticAbhorI]
#3724647 - 02/03/05 12:57 PM (18 years, 11 months ago) |
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Based on annos posts in this thread, i think cyans fruit from wood.
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[quote]KristiMidocean said: Good now thats clear.WHO FUCKING CARES. If I am fat u all keep pointing it out like its suppose to be a secret.LIke u really have nothing better to do then make fat jokes. If o know its like I do I know yall can come up with NEW AND BETTER SHIT . This shit is old and boring . I left in the first place cause this shit got boring not because of the fat jokes . Fat jokes dont bother me but seriously its old[/quote]
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Re: Can someone explain why you need birdseed for Cyans? [Re: IGnosticAbhorI]
#3724675 - 02/03/05 01:06 PM (18 years, 11 months ago) |
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Not all cyans are wood lovers . Those that are not can just be cased , but one may not get the results they want i.e. size of fruits . Someone added a link somewheres in this post I think.. and it covers fruiting without use of bulk subs like straw and such .It mentioned best results from spawning to some sort of dung and or straw . Check it out it will explain much better than I can . I am trying to absorb all I can , I want to try some of the non wood prefering cyans myself .
Here is the link I mentioned .. it was ARP who posted it . http://www.shroomery.org/index/par/26504
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Re: Can someone explain why you need birdseed for Cyans? [Re: tripndicular]
#3724682 - 02/03/05 01:09 PM (18 years, 11 months ago) |
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cyans is not even a word.
There are Psilocybe cyanescens and there are Panaeolus cyanescens.
2 completely different species.
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Re: Can someone explain why you need birdseed for Cyans? [Re: Anno]
#3724697 - 02/03/05 01:15 PM (18 years, 11 months ago) |
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Sorry was being lazy and making own shorthand form I meant it to be plural also again I am sorry for wrong term useage . Please do not beat and whip me when you get home tonite 
But I am right though... are I not ? Not all Cyanescens are wood lovers only .
Pan Cy's likey the dungs right ? OOOPPPS I used my shorthand form again
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Re: Can someone explain why you need birdseed for Cyans? [Re: tripndicular]
#3724737 - 02/03/05 01:28 PM (18 years, 11 months ago) |
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Like Anno said :
There are Psilocybe Cyanescens and there are Panaeolus Cyanescens.
2 completely different species.
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The Psilocybe Cyanescens are wood lovers. They can be started on grains...then spawned to wood. You can also take mycelium from wild Psilocybe Cyanescens and spawn wood. 
The Panaeolus Cyanescens They are started on grains...they love the poo.
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Re: Can someone explain why you need birdseed for Cyans? [Re: Roadkill]
#3724948 - 02/03/05 02:23 PM (18 years, 11 months ago) |
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Thanx RK ... sweet simple and to the point , and which is which as far as who likes what sub. So I was not wrong and full of useless info on a topic kinda new to me. There were a few comments about being wood lovers only that I was trying to clear up and understand better myself. I was affraid I was way off base when I said the not all require wood to be happy and healthy.
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