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OfflineDeviate
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Re: Legalization [Re: niteowl]
    #3820285 - 02/22/05 11:21 PM (19 years, 29 days ago)

i am for the legalization of all drugs, with more severe pentalties for DUIs and other kinds of public endangerment. i like the idea of psychedelic centers for the use of psychedelic drugs. this would protect society from the dangers involved with these drugs but not infringe on the freedom to experiment with them. they would slowly spread enlightenment as word of mouth traveled around about the amazing experiences people were having there.

if you think drug legalization in american society would not lead to increased usage, you're kidding yourself. if you could buy opium at the corner store imagine how many kids would be smoking it? its not so much that millions of people who don't use drugs would come rushing out to try them, its the fact that drugs would suddenly become much more safe and available to the population of people who already use or are considering using drugs. prohibition WORKS for all but the most profitable drugs. ketamine, opium, LSD, GHB, mescaline, DMT and 2C-B are all are somewhat difficult to obtain right now so there would be a huge spike in their usage as they become available to all drug users accross the country. secondly, drugs would be much cheaper and available in much larger quantities. right now you can get speed, or benzos or whatever if you're willing to deal with looking for it, risking arrest, getting ripped off/low quality, withdrawal, inflated prices etc. but how many of you can stroll to the drugstore and come home with MDMA, cocaine, valium, morphine, mescaline, LSD and ketamine all for a reasonable price? there would be a small but significant segment of the population that would go way overboard and be totally irresponsible with drugs, using them all the time. drugs would become a huge recreational passtime with the increased social acceptance and the new ability to medicate yourself into any state of mind you wished. i envision major changes to society as a result. as someone else noted some drugs facilate contentment and would harm the economy. for example psychedelics can bring inner peace and draw people away from mindless consumption. opiates can do the same thing if they are cheap, as long as an addict has their opiate they don't need any silly material possesions to make them happy. society would eventually discover that happiness comes from within and the years of government corruption would slowly be exposed. our current society is based on the illusion that the state of conciousness of the status quo is the only real one and any othe is inferior. a slew of a powerful mind altering drugs being legalized to the general public would eventually impact the mind of society.

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Re: Legalization [Re: Deviate]
    #4354046 - 06/30/05 02:02 AM (18 years, 8 months ago)

drug is good for ravis

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Offlineunearth
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Re: Legalization [Re: daba]
    #4356699 - 06/30/05 06:59 PM (18 years, 8 months ago)

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daba said:
It's hard to say. There are is a certain percentage of people who should never be allowed to touch psychedelic drugs; for their sake and ours.

What's also hard to decide is the legal age for such substances. What would one consider an age of maturation? Moreso, how much of the populous the psychedelic experience increase the process towards maturation?

Since many of us agree that psychedelics provide a certain degree of recreation, regardless of original intent, therein lies a problem. Recreation always creates a possible pathway to abuse. You begin to wonder, maybe that's why they're all illegal. Not that I'm for it, but a good observation is: Keep it illegal, keep it simple.



if it was legal people would use it the same as much as it was illegal

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Re: Legalization [Re: unearth]
    #4357813 - 07/01/05 12:23 AM (18 years, 8 months ago)

legal age for drugs and alcohol should be 19. it shouldnt be legal for anyone in high school to drink or do drugs, if you could do it in when you're a senior in high school it would get down to all the freshmen, and they're way too young. 19 year olds are out of high school and a lot are in college where everyone is drinking and doing drugs anyway. they're gonna do it no matter what the law is. plus it's stupid that you can get drafted and die for your country at 19 but not take a sip of a beer.


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Re: Legalization [Re: nightkrawler]
    #4364792 - 07/02/05 11:06 PM (18 years, 8 months ago)

all should be legalized. but there should be ages for each
weed 16
lsd 21
coke 21
heroin 21


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Offlineliman
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Re: Legalization [Re: lilbilski4life]
    #4376251 - 07/06/05 03:22 PM (18 years, 8 months ago)

yay natural one mave to be

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Offlinecdorise
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Re: Legalization [Re: Seuss]
    #24179294 - 03/21/17 12:36 AM (7 years, 3 hours ago)

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Seuss said:
> The minimum age should be 16 for marijuana and 18 for everything else.

I disagree with you on this... high school is for learning, college is for exploring.  Legal age should be 18 (or 21 if we want to raise the draft age).  I do think parents should be allowed to decide if their children can do drug XYZ in the home, church, etc... so I am not 100% against the 16 year old smoking... but only if the parents approve of it and are present during the act.  (I am also in favor of lowering the drinking age to 18, unless we raise the draft age and vote age to 21.)




They want to put my 15yr old on all kinds of drugs to help her sleep and combat her anxiety. (She has PTSD from being molested). Like really bad stuff. 1/2 a joint at night in bed and she has no sleep problems. Less, much much less anxiety, where she can manage it easily with coping techniques and honestly, she hardly using those either anymore (breathing, counting etc..). No nightmares, scratching herself or anything. For almost a year now.

I make Oil from Greenry and she was taking that, but the effects last soooo much longer she switched it up, she was waking up 8-9 hours later still high. So I'm torn. Some could really use it at 15 etc.... but it might impact schooling etc. and we all know we don't want that.

Too many variables.

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Invisiblepineninja
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Re: Legalization [Re: cdorise]
    #24179297 - 03/21/17 12:39 AM (7 years, 3 hours ago)

Recreational use of marijuana imo should be kept away from adolescents unless like above there is a valid medical need.

I voted to legalize all drugs.
Though age of initial use is important.


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OfflineCamwritesgonzo
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Re: Legalization [Re: cdorise]
    #24201537 - 03/29/17 12:51 AM (6 years, 11 months ago)

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cdorise said:
They want to put my 15yr old on all kinds of drugs to help her sleep and combat her anxiety. (She has PTSD from being molested). Like really bad stuff. 1/2 a joint at night in bed and she has no sleep problems. Less, much much less anxiety, where she can manage it easily with coping techniques and honestly, she hardly using those either anymore (breathing, counting etc..). No nightmares, scratching herself or anything. For almost a year now.

I make Oil from Greenry and she was taking that, but the effects last soooo much longer she switched it up, she was waking up 8-9 hours later still high. So I'm torn. Some could really use it at 15 etc.... but it might impact schooling etc. and we all know we don't want that.

Too many variables.



I feel it necessary to preface by saying I'm not a medical specialist in any way, shape, or form; but I think the oil idea is good as it cuts out the scratch and cotton mouth from smoking. I simply wanted to add my :twocents: by suggesting lowering the dose of oil and adding the oil to chamomile and jasmine tea, being it's nighttime you're talking about.
Ideally, the tea would provide relaxation into sleep until the cannoil takes effect and works its magic.


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OfflineLaofooQ
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Re: Legalization [Re: Camwritesgonzo]
    #24207013 - 03/31/17 12:20 AM (6 years, 11 months ago)

No middle ground, commit or quit. I think it would have to be regulation on the heroin like the cold tablets. There's no way the gov here is going to say you can have enough to poison yourself immediately. 10 grams a month or some limit. Pot who cares? There shouldn't even be laws about pot.


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Re: Legalization [Re: Ravus]
    #24218655 - 04/04/17 06:15 PM (6 years, 11 months ago)

I vote legalize everything, but not the industrialized sale and advertising of everything, and I believe different substances should have different legal ages. The most important thing is education, and building a society where people aren't despondent enough that they need to turn to drugs off the bat to get by. That said, 18 is a decent age to start drinking and smoking weed. I'd say 21 for LSD and psychedelics generally, and probably 25 for Heroin/coke etc

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Re: Legalization [Re: Ravus]
    #24255167 - 04/18/17 07:05 PM (6 years, 10 months ago)

Make it all legal, it works in other places.  It would work here.


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Re: Legalization [Re: Sacik]
    #24277954 - 04/28/17 06:47 AM (6 years, 10 months ago)

There really should be no doubt that everything should be decriminalized for personal use, at the very least.  This should have happened already.

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