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Invisiblemjshroomer
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Re: Panaeolus Subbalteatus. [Re: TYL3R]
    #3702414 - 01/30/05 01:52 PM (19 years, 20 days ago)

YEs Tyler,

your shrooms are definately Panaeolus subbalteatus.

Hope you had a shroomy time.
mj


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Re: Panaeolus Subbalteatus. [Re: GGreatOne234]
    #3707028 - 01/31/05 10:16 AM (19 years, 19 days ago)

It might be subbalteatus, looks like it. Just thought it a good Idea to mention the other possibilities. I guess I was wrong to do so.

I'll be sure to keep my opinions to myself in the future. :grin:

I was under the impression that manure was present when you found subbalteatus, guess I should stop reading those pesky Field guides. Stametes and arora don't seem to hold up against the pros like MJ. :smirk:


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Re: Panaeolus Subbalteatus. [Re: EonTan]
    #3707504 - 01/31/05 12:37 PM (19 years, 19 days ago)

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EonTan said:
Stametes and arora don't seem to hold up against the pros like MJ. :smirk:




In my short journey into the world of mycology, I have gathered, and feel confident in stating, that Paul Stamets is by far one of the most notable voices in this field. I generally associate what he says with being the truth, despite whether one understands it or not. But I assume EonTan was being sarcastic, than again he mispelled Stamets' name, so...


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Re: Panaeolus Subbalteatus. [Re: Herbus]
    #3707894 - 01/31/05 02:31 PM (19 years, 19 days ago)

I belive they are often found of highly fertilized lawns, as well.


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Invisiblemjshroomer
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Re: Panaeolus Subbalteatus. [Re: TYL3R]
    #3718463 - 02/02/05 10:09 AM (19 years, 17 days ago)

Not often Tyler. They are rather extremely rare in lawns. However, a lawn opf Panaeolina foenisecii could have a few subbalteatus in the same lawn. This is what, in the past, cause a few false postive analysis of some collections which led the listing of this mushroom as psychoactive. Even Lynn and judy Osbourne, writing under the pseudonym of Brolin published a BS article ion High Times called America's Home harvest Mushrooms.

Arora and Menzers east coast-westcoast, along with the same from Haard and haard lkisted themas yes on one coast and no on the other coast based on personal communications with friends who id'ed the shrooms from otherphotographs in other identification guides.

Shit. I have shown many shroomers photographs of Galerina autumnalis and was told they were good shrooms that really o got one high.

Of course, we know if they ate them they would most liklely be dead.


Even Paul Stamet's books have errors and trypos.

He misidentified my shroom Psilocybe samuiensis Guzm?n, Bandala and Allen as being Psilocybe samuiensis, Guzman, Allen and Merlin.

David Arora's large book Mushrooms Dymistified shows a photograph of Psilocybe cyanofibrilosa as Psilocybe cyanescens.

They neve bothered to correct the error. Yet both have known of it for a long, long time.

Paul also has se veral wrong references in his mushroom cultivation books and his chart on potency levels is way off. his azurescens was just on shroom which contained a high amonunt of chemical. He has never found a sec0ond shroom that potent in the genera.

Anyway,

Here int he pnw, subbalteatus also comes on in fertile soil in Dec-February in the Seattle rwegion but not every season. Just small fruitings and they usually do not return because of ivy and other plants overtaking the myce3lia.

Joshuya found one lawn in Oregon. It never really fruitied again liek the firast year and he never posted new images of it the following year, or if he did I think they were a small collection.

Blue ringers in Settle area are the same. They can grow for twenty years in a lawn, proving the lawn service is perpetual. Once the fertilizers stop being put into the lawn, the shrooms will disappear in about three years.

Even some of GGreatOne234's lawns of casers never returned and a few have.

Here is an image of Panaeolus subbalteatus from n apartment comples mulched garden bed int he U districtr of Seattle in 1998. They did not return the following year.


You can see little woodchips in the fwertile soil which came form Bassette and Western in Woodinville, Washington. They seem to still provide nice surburban lawns with massive stuntzii's inthe sod and such at apartment and condo complexes.

Mj


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Re: Panaeolus Subbalteatus. [Re: mjshroomer]
    #3719325 - 02/02/05 01:55 PM (19 years, 17 days ago)

Damn....im confused. Im just gonna let this go, completly. The patch has not returned, and since it is a place that is treaded apon often, i dont think it will.


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Re: Panaeolus Subbalteatus. [Re: mjshroomer]
    #3719351 - 02/02/05 02:00 PM (19 years, 17 days ago)

Pan subs are cool.. And I have only found them in lawns once and a horse field once too.. But there was only 3 of them in the field and two in the lawn.. Instead of harvesting them I just tore up the cap and spread it over the land to hopefully help spread the spores..:mushroom2:


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