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Offlineorichalc
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so what happens after hmm let's say ten or fifteen grams dried?
    #3718655 - 02/02/05 01:02 PM (11 years, 10 months ago)

world record?

no really.

what set's an extremely high dose apart from what is usually recommended below five...

I suppose temporary insanity would occur; but as for visuals and the sort of trip, would you be able to reach a sort of gnosis with the help of added psilocybin account? would you be able to reach a level which would compete with an "authenticatable" religious experience?

allright kudos to all.


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Re: so what happens after hmm let's say ten or fifteen grams dried? [Re: orichalc]
    #3718740 - 02/02/05 01:24 PM (11 years, 10 months ago)

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would you be able to reach a level which would compete with an "authenticatable" religious experience?



that has more to do with mindset that with such extreme dosages

it has been done, people trip very hard and loose all tough with reality, from what I've read it isn't really fun. no need to overdo it imo :smirk:


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Re: so what happens after hmm let's say ten or fifteen grams dried? [Re: stefan]
    #3719012 - 02/02/05 02:42 PM (11 years, 10 months ago)

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It has been done, people trip very hard and loose all touch with reality, from what I've read it isn't really fun. No need to overdo it.




Indeed. In my experience once you're tripping so hard you won't realize if you're tripping harder. It's almost like there is a saturation point in your brain.


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Re: so what happens after hmm let's say ten or fifteen grams dried? [Re: bf6]
    #3719063 - 02/02/05 02:58 PM (11 years, 10 months ago)

well pretty much my saying is if u didnt puke u didnt trip enough..that is unless ur a newb or just not into using mushrooms correctly then u should take 5 1/2 gs and go to the beach


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Re: so what happens after hmm let's say ten or fifteen grams dried? [Re: dakilladojaman]
    #3719182 - 02/02/05 03:21 PM (11 years, 10 months ago)

that's a weird saying... lower doses can be just as powerfull


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Re: so what happens after hmm let's say ten or fifteen grams dried? [Re: stefan]
    #3719199 - 02/02/05 03:25 PM (11 years, 10 months ago)

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lower doses can be just as powerfull




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Re: so what happens after hmm let's say ten or fifteen grams dried? [Re: orichalc]
    #3719468 - 02/02/05 04:29 PM (11 years, 10 months ago)

my friend ate 13 grams of the best shrooms id ever had in my entire life all at once, amazingly he did not freak out, hes the sickest mo' foh ive ever met, he said really the only thing that stood out is he thought he was naked.


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Re: so what happens after hmm let's say ten or fifteen grams dried? [Re: LilShank]
    #3720032 - 02/02/05 06:26 PM (11 years, 10 months ago)

whoaaa what a tank. jk
but seriously, freaking out is obviously bad, but just letting go is not a bad thing and doesn't make you less of a person if you think that way

also, different people have different tolerances to drugs, he might just not be sensitive to mushrooms


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Re: so what happens after hmm let's say ten or fifteen grams dried? [Re: holio1]
    #3720277 - 02/02/05 07:37 PM (11 years, 10 months ago)

I have a trip report in the ODD from eating 11 grams of dried panaleous subbalteatous. It was insane and terrifying and I called 911 becuase I thought I was having a brain anuerism or something. I don't think I'll ever go past a 1/4 after that.


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Re: so what happens after hmm let's say ten or fifteen grams dried? [Re: vandago]
    #3720349 - 02/02/05 07:57 PM (11 years, 10 months ago)

my highest dose was a 1/4 dried cubensis and it was just like an intensified eigth, I saw morphing and colors and what not but I was pretty much knocked off my feet. As soon as I started tripping hard I sat in a comfy chair and hugged a comfy pillow, I didnt get up until well after I started coming down.

Very fun but very hard to really do anything other than sit there, which was fun anyway. It wasnt that I physically couldnt, but if I would think about stahding up, I would have to worry about where I was going to walk to and look at and what not... much harder than just sitting there.

In retrospect I think 5 grams is an optimal dose for me because it gives me more visuals than an 1/8 but doesnt knock me out physically like a 1/4. Thats just personlly tho because I also know someone who FREAKS out on anything over an 1/8


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Re: so what happens after hmm let's say ten or fifteen grams dried? [Re: aguynameddan]
    #3720372 - 02/02/05 08:03 PM (11 years, 10 months ago)

There is a maximum dose of psilocybin just as there is a minimum dose.  Past a certain point (8, 10 grams?) whatever receptors in your brain are responsible for the experience are totally maxxed out at this point.

That's probably why you don't hear many trip reports of doses this high, im most cases it's not noticeably different from a good 5-7 gram trip.  It's also a waste of good shrooms :wink:


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Re: so what happens after hmm let's say ten or fifteen grams dried? [Re: Holydiver]
    #3720398 - 02/02/05 08:08 PM (11 years, 10 months ago)

I beg to differ Diver. There are reports of people taking huge doses, such as a 420 wet gram dose, or someone else who went to the desert and took ~40 dried grams. Their experiences were nothing short of incredible. They were quite a bit more intense than any of these 10g dried doses (unless of course it was 10 of cyans, then maybe it would be comparable?). Either way, they are vastly different from a 5-7g trip.


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Re: so what happens after hmm let's say ten or fifteen grams dried? [Re: dakilladojaman] * 1
    #3720475 - 02/02/05 08:26 PM (11 years, 10 months ago)

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well pretty much my saying is if u didnt puke u didnt trip enough..that is unless ur a newb or just not into using mushrooms correctly then u should take 5 1/2 gs and go to the beach




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Re: so what happens after hmm let's say ten or fifteen grams dried? [Re: dblaney]
    #3720491 - 02/02/05 08:28 PM (11 years, 10 months ago)

I'm familiar with both of those stories, but I'm still sticking to my side. Both stories were pretty amazing, but they weren't that far out there to consider their experiences vastly different from a level 5 obtained off of 5-7 grams.

Collective stories over the years just don't convince me that a 10g+ dose is incredibly different from a 5 gram dose. I'm sorry, the evidence just isn't there.


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Re: so what happens after hmm let's say ten or fifteen grams dried? [Re: Holydiver]
    #3720926 - 02/02/05 09:40 PM (11 years, 10 months ago)

The only person that I have heard of taking more than 10 grams simply just told me he thought he was dead, couldt move or talk---just sat there for hours trippin balls. Shrooms will bite back hard at such high doses and usually no benefit it reaped from it but I guess you can always psuh your barriers.


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Re: so what happens after hmm let's say ten or fifteen grams dried? [Re: dblaney]
    #3721635 - 02/02/05 11:14 PM (11 years, 10 months ago)

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There are reports of people taking huge doses, such as a 420 wet gram dose,...




I have always had a high tolerence for drugs. My first time with shrooms I ate aprox. 200-300 wet grams. Since i started growing I have eaten 400-500 fresh.

I have had some of my most difficult trips on 2-3 dry grams.


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Re: so what happens after hmm let's say ten or fifteen grams dried? [Re: niteowl]
    #3721870 - 02/02/05 11:45 PM (11 years, 10 months ago)

Well the first time I took shrooms I bought ten grams dried. Me and my cousin each took two grams. After I peaked on those(which was crazy enough, melting into the earth, dancing trees, but hardly any visuals, mostly extremely strange feelings and ideas), I decided it would be a good idea to give two more grams to my cousin and me eat the other four. Needless to say that was a bit too intense for my first time. I went temporarily insane. My glasses melted into a spider morphing around my hand so I killed it(broke my glasses), and my cousin had 3 arms which I didnt think was normal, so I bit his finger and made it bleed. Then I just lost it. I was in a videogame, I almost had an orgasm(which I screamed out from my tent in the midst of 5000 hippies) just from sitting and doing nothing, and after went to outerspace and heaven for how knows how long. I definitely should have planned a better first trip (six grams at a music festival in a strange place, with sketchy drug dealers around). From the start I was shown the power of shrooms, and they need to be respected. If a quase(almost)-bad trip was so incredible, i?m sure a well planned one will blow my mind.


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Re: so what happens after hmm let's say ten or fifteen grams dried? [Re: niteowl] * 1
    #3726535 - 02/03/05 09:15 PM (11 years, 10 months ago)

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I have always had a high tolerence for drugs. My first time with shrooms I ate aprox. 200-300 wet grams. Since i started growing I have eaten 400-500 fresh.





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Re: so what happens after hmm let's say ten or fifteen grams dried? [Re: aguynameddan]
    #3726589 - 02/03/05 09:26 PM (11 years, 10 months ago)

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Very fun but very hard to really do anything other than sit there, which was fun anyway. It wasnt that I physically couldnt, but if I would think about stahding up, I would have to worry about where I was going to walk to and look at and what not... much harder than just sitting there.




yup, i can agree... sometimes it just seems best to chill and watch everything...


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Re: so what happens after hmm let's say ten or fifteen grams dried? [Re: Tremor1127]
    #3726634 - 02/03/05 09:35 PM (11 years, 10 months ago)

i cant say weather high doses do anything more, but after 7 grams of dry cubes thats about where i draw the line, after 4 grams it is very hard for me to do much of anything...  i can consentrate on stuff that I am doing, sometimes very little, but still able to compute and game if i want...  communicating kinda comes to a stop, as well as motivating...  now days i would just much rather have some good acid than shrooms...  with high doses of acid i just loose ability to communicate, as well...  you can still function, and thats good especially with all the crazy shit ahead of you to be seen...  :flowerchild:


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