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OfflineJJdubble
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how often do i shake my jars?
    #3714330 - 02/01/05 06:41 PM (12 years, 28 days ago)

hey...i got rye and popcorn in the incubator...and i'm just wondering how often do i shake it up?


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Re: how often do i shake my jars? [Re: JJdubble]
    #3714413 - 02/01/05 06:53 PM (12 years, 28 days ago)

I never really shake the shit I just let it go...


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Re: how often do i shake my jars? [Re: JJdubble]
    #3714420 - 02/01/05 06:55 PM (12 years, 28 days ago)

I inoc through one hole, and squirt 0,5 cc in each of 5 directions
1. straight down
2. n
3. e
4. w
5. s

I dont shake.

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Re: how often do i shake my jars? [Re: JJdubble]
    #3714427 - 02/01/05 06:56 PM (12 years, 28 days ago)

Twice IMHO
One when grain is aprox 5% colonized , then again around 70% any more and you risk harming the myc and it not being able to recover from shaking .
Shaking can be rough on the colony , so should only be done enough to assure full colonization quickly .
Hope this helped
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Re: how often do i shake my jars? [Re: tripndicular]
    #3714431 - 02/01/05 06:56 PM (12 years, 28 days ago)

Trippy! Was just thinking bout you, hows life?


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Re: how often do i shake my jars? [Re: MushroomFriend]
    #3714438 - 02/01/05 06:58 PM (12 years, 28 days ago)

It is kinda a waste of colonization time to not shake shakeable substrates.....

I shake after inoculation, then a second time at 10% visible colonization.
Sometimes, depends how even the colonization is, one last time at 50%.


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Re: how often do i shake my jars? [Re: Anno]
    #3714466 - 02/01/05 07:03 PM (12 years, 28 days ago)

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Anno said:
It is kinda  a waste of colonization  time to not shake shakeable substrates.....

I shake after inoculation, then a second time at 10% visible colonization.
Sometimes, depends how even the colonization is, one last time at 50%.




Oh yeah ... I forgot the one at inoc time  :tongue:

So the answer is it takes three licks to get to the center of a TOOTSIEPOP  :wink:


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Re: how often do i shake my jars? [Re: JJdubble]
    #3714514 - 02/01/05 07:12 PM (12 years, 28 days ago)

I aint in a hurry! :laugh:

With my method I dont loose much time anyway. Whatever method I use, if there is any time loss it is in the bottom. Small pieces that are surrounded by myc but refuse (take relative long time) to colonize. If those pieces are small enough I leave them out the further process.

Besides when colonized a good part its hardly shakeable anymore.

Also with my method (ahum its from Agar actually but now I use it too) you can fill the jars almost untill the lid. You dont need "shakespace"! :laugh:

Anyway I tried both ways and ATM I like my compass squirting! :lol:

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Re: how often do i shake my jars? [Re: JJdubble]
    #3714532 - 02/01/05 07:15 PM (12 years, 28 days ago)

I shake mine when they are about 1/5 colonized, just to speed it up a few days.


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Re: how often do i shake my jars? [Re: MushroomFriend]
    #3714536 - 02/01/05 07:16 PM (12 years, 28 days ago)

I shake 4-5 times for a quart jar of WBS, and they colonize fully in under 2 weeks for me. Shake correctly and break up the clumps against the glass. What you lose in recovery of the mycelium network by shaking, you'll gain in fast growth if you are shaking/breaking correctly.


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Re: how often do i shake my jars? [Re: JJdubble]
    #3714568 - 02/01/05 07:20 PM (12 years, 28 days ago)

I aint a commercial grower who is in a hurry.... Recreational purposes :lol: 2 days longer in the TIT I dont mind. But as mentioned with 5 inoculation points I dont loose that much in time, if any. For the rest: "as mentioned be4 & above"... :wink:


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Re: how often do i shake my jars? [Re: MushroomFriend]
    #3714573 - 02/01/05 07:21 PM (12 years, 28 days ago)

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MushroomFriend said:
Trippy! Was just thinking bout you, hows life?




Good or bad thoughts ? :nut:

It more a redistribution thing to me , it does aide in speed of full colonization , which means less chance for contams to set in first .

Remember any sub is a home sweet home for more than myc , and first come first serve , so why not help myc be the dominant one .Especially in shakeables like ANNO said .


Shake shake shake ... shake your jars , just not to often .


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Re: how often do i shake my jars? [Re: tripndicular]
    #3714588 - 02/01/05 07:24 PM (12 years, 28 days ago)

Yeah I condered that, bout the speed vs contam chance. Not that many jars have been raised here. But the contams always show up wayyy before the end. A shake wouldnt have prevented it in my case.

For the last time..... If there is any gain in time it is like 1 or 2 days.
I use polyfill, think of the contams you can suck in when shaking? :grin:
Really it aint much of a big deal for me...

The thoughts were good! Was wondering how you and your loved ones are doing... :sun:

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Re: how often do i shake my jars? [Re: MushroomFriend]
    #3714661 - 02/01/05 07:39 PM (12 years, 28 days ago)

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MushroomFriend said:
Yeah I condered that, bout the speed vs contam chance. Not that many jars have been raised here. But the contams always show up wayyy before the end. A shake wouldnt have prevented it in my case.

For the last time..... If there is any gain in time it is like 1 or 2 days.
I use polyfill, think of the contams you can suck in when shaking? :grin:
Really it aint much of a big deal for me...

The thoughts were good! Was wondering how you and your loved ones are doing... :sun:

MF




Each time we shake ... we are expanding the colony by hundreds even thousands of times ... so it is very beneficial in the "colony size" aspect IMHO as to success .So time to full blown colonization is also multiplied I have heard on the grape vines  :cool:

Are you ceratin shakes would not help ... did you try and note results ?  :wink:
Try it ... you might like it !  :blush:

Okey dokey ... pm me bout other stuff , no hijacking dudes thread . :smirk:


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Re: how often do i shake my jars? [Re: tripndicular]
    #3714693 - 02/01/05 07:43 PM (12 years, 28 days ago)

Yeah I did shake be4. Also noticed that after 50% colonized (even sooner) teh mycgrains hardly break up anymore.

Really the contams Ive had in jars have been green mold
- you know the corn cased too early
- some week ago I had it too after a day or 3

wetspot
- in a very agressive colonizing jar (GT) after 5 days. Jar was about 50% colonized.

Anyway, I like where im at and im staying there! Doing teh 5 inocs! :tongue:

Try it! :lol:


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