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Offlineagr8fulchick
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Calling your backpackers and hikers!
    #3712699 - 02/01/05 12:02 PM (12 years, 5 months ago)

I recently purchased a National Parks Pass, and I'm eager to go backpacking all over this great country! Problem is, I don't have a good backpack. We're talking for excursions that are about a week long, taking everything with me, in normal temps (not really hot or really cold extremes). It will have to be a fairly large pack... any suggestions? Internal or external frame? Any features that I just can't live without? Any brands or types that you recommend? I've requested catalogs from Osprey, Arc'teryx, Kelty and Greggory. I need all your experience to help me make a decision! Price is not the issue, I want a pack that will last longer that I will!



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Re: Calling your backpackers and hikers! [Re: agr8fulchick]
    #3712772 - 02/01/05 12:11 PM (12 years, 5 months ago)

http://www.completeoutdoors.co.uk/catalog/images/rucksack/panther.jpg
it's a Karrimor Panther 60-70
www.karrimor.com for specifications I guess, butI just looked and they're rebuilding their site

durable and also affordable. comfy to wear, also when heavily packed :thumbup:


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Re: Calling your backpackers and hikers! [Re: agr8fulchick]
    #3712793 - 02/01/05 12:15 PM (12 years, 5 months ago)

I like external frames.

They are nice to live out of as they hold some shape
and act as a good 'dresser' of sorts in camp.

REI sells a nice EF pack for under 2 bills, I believe

this is the Kelty, I can't seem to find the REI brand online:

http://www.rei.com/product/12361962.htm?

Be advised...the best thing to do is find a good shop that
will work with you to find a pack. Put some on with weight
in them and walk around.

Have them fitted and adjusted for you so that you can get
a good feel for what it will be like on the trail.

These things are like boots, they are an integral part of your
trip and as such, making rash decisions regarding type, size
and fit can make or break a trip.

Have a great summer....there's nothing better than getting
out on the trail and walking off all that modern day madness.


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Offlineagr8fulchick
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Re: Calling your backpackers and hikers! [Re: afoaf]
    #3712817 - 02/01/05 12:20 PM (12 years, 5 months ago)

I know that external frames are the classic, and I like that classy look, but it seems that the internal frames are taking over, as I find a lot more of those. Thanks for the input! I do like the classic  Kelty  external backpacks.

The hiking boots I have, bought them in Colorado just last summer, and I'm still slowly breaking them in. Got the boots, gear and clothes, now I just need the bag to put it all in!

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Re: Calling your backpackers and hikers! [Re: agr8fulchick]
    #3712865 - 02/01/05 12:26 PM (12 years, 5 months ago)

definitely dont go with an external frame, I recommend any of the brands you've listed really, I have a Lowe Alpine (which are usually pricey) that I got on sale. Whatever it is, just make sure it has *all* the features on it you could want. And definitely get bigger than 3300 cubic inches.

They make some pretty nice ones fitted especially for womens body frames and hips. Whatever you do, get it fitted right with a load of about 25 pounds and make sure it fits correctly!


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Re: Calling your backpackers and hikers! [Re: Psilygirl]
    #3712889 - 02/01/05 12:29 PM (12 years, 5 months ago)

25 pounds!?!?!?

that's child play.

you're not really backpacking until you've got at
least 40lbs on your back.

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Re: Calling your backpackers and hikers! [Re: agr8fulchick]
    #3713477 - 02/01/05 02:36 PM (12 years, 5 months ago)

I remember my first backpacking trip with a 65 pound pack. Boy we had no idea what we were doing. I still dream of pack weights under 40 pounds, but food alone for 10 days already weighs in around 20 pounds, and thats still eating pretty light.

I usually come in around 50 pounds for a 10 day trip, but its well worth it not to have to come out to resupply. As far as packs go, there are a wide variety of packs to suite anyones needs. I use an internal frame EMS pack, only cause it was ultra cheap, like $100 cheap. I suggest going to a retailer, EMS and REI are both good bets to avoid getting raped on prices. The staff should help you find a pack that will suite your needs. Make sure they help you fit the pack!!!! Most people dont have a clue as to how to adjust their packs and end up with some wobbling suitcase on their backs, when you should have a stream line close fitting pack.

REI.com has good comparison charts of their packs to help you choose whats right for you. If your planning on packing under 25 pounds, there are lots of ultra lightweight packs that will fit snuggly and are relitively low priced. Hope you find some good stuff and more importantly, some amazing patches of wilderness.

Good luck :smile:


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Re: Calling your backpackers and hikers! [Re: afoaf]
    #3713742 - 02/01/05 03:29 PM (12 years, 5 months ago)

Quote:

afoaf said:
25 pounds!?!?!?

that's child play.

you're not really backpacking until you've got at
least 40lbs on your back.

:wink:




agreed, I just meant for fitting purposes :wink:

though if you're like me, you pack as LITTLE as possible, especially for long hauls and glacier climbing/mountaineering 5000m+ peaks :wink:


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Offlineagr8fulchick
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Re: Calling your backpackers and hikers! [Re: Psilygirl]
    #3713783 - 02/01/05 03:39 PM (12 years, 5 months ago)

Why are you against the external frames? The externals are the classy fit, plus the keep the load off of your back and allow lots of ventillation.

I'm not talking about extreme hiking here, we're talking a week-long camping trip to Yellowstone or Arches or another national park. I'll most likely be going with at least one other person, so we can split some gear between us (hopefully!). I don't want to get a pack that's too small or ridiculously large. I also pack technically well, with good gearhead travel clothes and supplies. No princess packer here! :wink:


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Re: Calling your backpackers and hikers! [Re: agr8fulchick]
    #3713790 - 02/01/05 03:41 PM (12 years, 5 months ago)

"No Princess Packer here"

:lol:
YOU ROCK!

a good place for advice is the www.backpacker.com forums. People are a little slow on response time, but you will get some good advice within a few days.


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Re: Calling your backpackers and hikers! [Re: beejay]
    #3713801 - 02/01/05 03:43 PM (12 years, 5 months ago)

5,000 + cubic inches.
Internal Frame non-aluminium
Thick Padded shoulder and waist straps.
Built in Compression
external loops and shit to strap stuff too
water bottle holders on side and waist strap
and most importantly:
a seperate sleeping bag compartment w zippers from outside and to main compartment. Must have.


Stay away from NorthFace and MountainSmith


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Re: Calling your backpackers and hikers! [Re: agr8fulchick]
    #3713802 - 02/01/05 03:44 PM (12 years, 5 months ago)

You want an Osprey Crescent. I have a Crescent 110, which is the biggest, because I do week and longer hikes. A Crescent 90 will run about 280 and has plenty room. I wouldn't own a different pack.


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Re: Calling your backpackers and hikers! [Re: agr8fulchick]
    #3713809 - 02/01/05 03:45 PM (12 years, 5 months ago)

I just personally find them uncomfortable, and I think you can personalize the fit better with the adjustable frame with internal frames. That is just my opinion, you are certainly welcome to do what you please.

I personally love my pack, I've used it on long backpacking trips (like you show interest in) and it's also a great mountaineering pack (places to conveniently stow ice axes, pickets, cramp-ons and the other technical gear involved). So for me it's a great all-around pack.

Definitely just figure out what you'd be using it for (which it sounds like you have) and what kind of features you want it to serve to fulfill its purpose.


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Re: Calling your backpackers and hikers! [Re: beejay]
    #3713854 - 02/01/05 04:27 PM (12 years, 5 months ago)

No time for princess packing here! I love going on business trips with only a carry-on backpack, when other people are checking luggage! The greatest thing ever is to work hard all day outside in fairly nice looking clothing (black slacks and button down shirt) getting all sweaty and muddy, and then hose yourself off and be clean and dry in five minutes and ready for dinner! I did this many time on my last business trip to Puerto Rico, nothing like looking good all day, no matter how hard you work or how muddy you get! Ticks off the other people who need to change clothes or stay wet and dirty. Fun times :smile:

I'm also addicted to Patagonia and other 'gearhead' companies like north face and mountain hardware. I'd rather pay a little extra to have really nice stuff that I can smush down :smile: Thanks for the forum info, I'm on my way there now!


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Re: Calling your backpackers and hikers! [Re: Jim]
    #3713856 - 02/01/05 04:29 PM (12 years, 5 months ago)

What's wrong with NorthFace and MountainSmith? Did you have a bad experience with them? Not saying you aren't absolutely right, I just want to know why :smile:


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Re: Calling your backpackers and hikers! [Re: afoaf]
    #3715076 - 02/01/05 08:38 PM (12 years, 5 months ago)

I agree external frames are best bet. sleeping pad and blanket at the bottom tied to the frame wholds enough cloths for a week plus food, stove, pans, and tent.
I would go with a 5000 cubic inch pack. I used kelty my whole life. Good price for a good pack.


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Re: Calling your backpackers and hikers! [Re: agr8fulchick]
    #3715094 - 02/01/05 08:40 PM (12 years, 5 months ago)

North face is over rated. Yes its good but so is just about any of them. Brands I like.... patagonia, eurika, mountain hardwear.


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Re: Calling your backpackers and hikers! [Re: Jim]
    #3715191 - 02/01/05 08:53 PM (12 years, 5 months ago)

Quote:

GratefulJim said:
5,000 + cubic inches.
Internal Frame non-aluminium
Thick Padded shoulder and waist straps.
Built in Compression
external loops and shit to strap stuff too
water bottle holders on side and waist strap
a seperate sleeping bag compartment w zippers from outside and to main compartment. Must have.



Pretty good advice there.

I use a Gregory pack. The Shasta model. But mine is a few years old so its red. The Shasta only comes in green now.


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Re: Calling your backpackers and hikers! [Re: ToTheSummit]
    #3715241 - 02/01/05 09:00 PM (12 years, 5 months ago)

Here is me with my pack on.


It was about 7AM and I had just walked out of the canyon at the end of a 5-day trip.  We left the river at 11PM the night before and walked out under a full moon.  Probably one of the best hikes of my life! :thumbup:


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Re: Calling your backpackers and hikers! [Re: Corporal Kielbasa]
    #3718993 - 02/02/05 02:36 PM (12 years, 5 months ago)

I do like the external frame packs, but it seems that all of the externals now have aluminum h-frames, and I'm worried that one good fall will bend the frame and ruin my pack. My boyfriend has an external frame, Coleman Peak 1 with a plastic Ramflex frame that I wish I could find! Looks much more reliable than a metal frame, plus there are lots of places to hook extra gear on, it's a great pack!

I agree that North Face is overrated. It seems like the 'gearhead' choice for all the people who aren't gearheads. I see them all the time on campus, being worn by people whom you know have never and will never hike a day in their life!

Thanks for the input :smile:


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