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crack-heads,tweakers,junkies,pot-heads,stoners,addicts,etc.
    #3706945 - 01/31/05 11:34 AM (12 years, 6 months ago)

are all looked at as being "bad people" what about the people who profit from them? the dealers. are they not "bad people"

furthermore, aren't gluttons,sloths(not the mammal),pedifiles(peder-asses),adultureres,liars,and anyone one else that has an "addiction" to:the internet(internet porn),television,..uh..gamblers,theives,etc.  just as "bad" as the common heroin addict? and if so then are the people who profit from them as "bad" too? (with the exeption of peder-asses, no one profits from that :thumbdown:) what do you all think?

customers? or lost souls who are dependant on chemicals? bussinessmen? or predators preying on the weak?


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Re: crack-heads,tweakers,junkies,pot-heads,stoners,addicts,etc. [Re: uriahchase]
    #3706963 - 01/31/05 11:45 AM (12 years, 6 months ago)

are all looked at as being "bad people" what about the people who profit from them? the dealers. are they not "bad people"

You aren't seriously implying that it's not common to think of drug dealers as bad people, are you?
If anything, the dealers are demonized more than the users.

furthermore, aren't gluttons,sloths(not the mammal),pedifiles(peder-asses),adultureres,liars,and anyone one else that has an "addiction" to:the internet(internet porn),television,..uh..gamblers,theives,etc. just as "bad" as the common heroin addict? and if so then are the people who profit from them as "bad" too? (with the exeption of peder-asses, no one profits from that ) what do you all think?

Well, some of them hurt others, some don't. Someone who rapes children is harming another person directly (and sometimes they ARE making a profit, selling child porn). Someone who looks at internet porn isn't harming anyone.


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Re: crack-heads,tweakers,junkies,pot-heads,stoners,addicts,etc. [Re: Phluck]
    #3706974 - 01/31/05 11:55 AM (12 years, 6 months ago)

Everything phluck said :thumbup: plus
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crack-heads,tweakers,junkies,pot-heads,stoners,addicts,etc.



Every drug has a villified pejorative term to use towards its regular users...  The problem is, not often do people learn the differences in regular use of, say, crack, compared to regular use of, say, pot.

:shrug:


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Re: crack-heads,tweakers,junkies,pot-heads,stoners,addicts,etc. [Re: uriahchase]
    #3706977 - 01/31/05 11:56 AM (12 years, 6 months ago)

This is the hypocracy we have to put up with everyday. The real problem with our society is not chemicals, its unexamined habitual behaviour.


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Re: crack-heads,tweakers,junkies,pot-heads,stoners,addicts,etc. [Re: J4S0N]
    #3707026 - 01/31/05 12:16 PM (12 years, 6 months ago)

no i wasn't implying that dealers aren't looked down upon at all. i was kinda getting at..... what about the
fat ass who is jackin off to 12 year olds on the computer for hours and hours that makes a phone call to Pizza Hut for the secdond time today, and orders a large w/ everything and its not for take out  but delivery, because he's too fuckin lazy to get it himself.

is he not as bad as the crack-heads, E-tards, tweakers, and those who deal it to them?


oh and yes i know. we all have ways of describing other people. often by what drug they take...and whether or not you yourself take that drug will effect how you feel about that drug. so you may say "oh he's a crack head" all bitchy like just because you don't smoke crack rock, but instead you enjoy snorting coke.?.... makes no sense to me how people can judge other people by thier habits. WE ALL HAVE 'EM

so fuck off and die!! untill you are without some sort of addiction, dont comment on mine!


sorry............i think i got the point across. a little :confused:


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Re: crack-heads,tweakers,junkies,pot-heads,stoners,addicts,etc. [Re: uriahchase]
    #3707623 - 01/31/05 03:24 PM (12 years, 6 months ago)

This can of beer is good for me because it makes me feel good and my gov says its healthy to have a beer a day.

This can of beer is bad for me becuase it is destroying my liver and may lead to an alcohol addiction.


My only point: Good and bad do not exist they are just a human perception.

P.S: Don't tell the government that or everyone will start acting like animals in this dog eat dog world.

Oh the contradictions, driving you crazy yet?


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Re: crack-heads,tweakers,junkies,pot-heads,stoners,addicts,etc. [Re: Ego Death]
    #3707659 - 01/31/05 03:36 PM (12 years, 6 months ago)

im not saying smoking meth is good for anyone,it's obviously bad for thier health. im sayn' that "people" tend to assume that the people who do smoke meth are "bad". and at the same time they are thinking about the hooker they just fucked last night.

hypocrasy. hippie-crits.

a blind man cannot lead another blind man. how can you tell someone to wipe thier feet at the door, when you haven't cleaned up the huge pile of shit on the living room floor your dog left for you the other day yet?????


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Re: crack-heads,tweakers,junkies,pot-heads,stoners,addicts,etc. [Re: uriahchase]
    #3707919 - 01/31/05 04:37 PM (12 years, 6 months ago)

the buddha said many many years ago that to much of anything is bad

to much water can have bad effects


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Re: crack-heads,tweakers,junkies,pot-heads,stoners,addicts,etc. [Re: Cosm]
    #3708071 - 01/31/05 05:18 PM (12 years, 6 months ago)

Quote:

Good and bad do not exist they are just a human perception.




danoEoboy, I think you hit a nail on the head that would end a lot of debates... but it would also piss off a lot of people... like christians.


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Re: crack-heads,tweakers,junkies,pot-heads,stoners,addicts,etc. [Re: Cosm]
    #3708134 - 01/31/05 05:28 PM (12 years, 6 months ago)

Quote:

Cosm said:
the buddha said many many years ago that to much of anything is bad

to much water can have bad effects


:thumbup:

Too much debating is bad for you, too, damnit!

:laugh: *goes back to the pub*


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Re: crack-heads,tweakers,junkies,pot-heads,stoners,addicts,etc. [Re: delta9]
    #3708183 - 01/31/05 05:34 PM (12 years, 6 months ago)

debate what debate that is what the buddha said many years ago

and i think you find that to much of anything is bad for you


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Re: crack-heads,tweakers,junkies,pot-heads,stoners,addicts,etc. [Re: delta9]
    #3708192 - 01/31/05 05:35 PM (12 years, 6 months ago)

""Good and bad do not exist they are just a human perception.""

and they exist as human perception, hence, the human, is good and bad, the same way, its neither..

you got yes you got no, totality. and then you got uncertain certainty. well..
1 and 1, need not only make just 2.
1 and 1, could be seen as 3.. 1 and 1, and the 1, they together [are]..


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Re: crack-heads,tweakers,junkies,pot-heads,stoners,addicts,etc. [Re: Ego Death]
    #3709691 - 01/31/05 09:21 PM (12 years, 6 months ago)

Quote:

danoEoboy said:
This can of beer is good for me because it makes me feel good and my gov says its healthy to have a beer a day.

This can of beer is bad for me becuase it is destroying my liver and may lead to an alcohol addiction.


My only point: Good and bad do not exist they are just a human perception.

P.S: Don't tell the government that or everyone will start acting like animals in this dog eat dog world.

Oh the contradictions, driving you crazy yet?




It's easy to make contridictions when you make such broad generalizations isn't it?

Oh also theres a little label on your can I don't know if you ever read it before and it goes as follows, "Government Warning: (1) According to the surgeon general, women should not drink alcoholic beverages during pregnancy because of the risk of birth defects. (2) Consumption of alcoholic beverages impairs your ability to drive a car or operate machinery, and may cause health problems."

Well since I can't be sure about your government, mine has never told me specifically that beer is a good thing. First off everything has benefitical and detrimental effects, everything. You drink too much water you can die. Does that make water bad? These aren't contradictions, you have to take things into the context in which they we made.

Now I somewhat agree with your statement on how good and bad are just human perception. However, human perception does exist and with that good and bad exist. I think you could say that good and bad don't exist if humans didn't exist, however this isn't the case.


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Re: crack-heads,tweakers,junkies,pot-heads,stoners,addicts,etc. [Re: relativexistance]
    #3710116 - 01/31/05 10:34 PM (12 years, 6 months ago)

But the good and bad exist solely to the society of humans. Therefore a certain stigma is placed on drug users/dealers because this is what the current society has deemed bad. There's no sincerity in a statement stating that good and evil exists independently. Good and evil only exists to human perception.

Go back over a hundred years when Samuel Colt was trying to make money to afford the patent/production of his gun. He went town to town under a silly name making money by having people pay to huff Nitrous Oxide to get high.


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Re: crack-heads,tweakers,junkies,pot-heads,stoners,addicts,etc. [Re: Society]
    #3710486 - 01/31/05 11:45 PM (12 years, 6 months ago)

"I love my country, I just hate those in charge"


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Re: crack-heads,tweakers,junkies,pot-heads,stoners,addicts,etc. [Re: jux]
    #3710790 - 02/01/05 12:46 AM (12 years, 6 months ago)

i smoke crack, pot, and opium.
i willfully ingest many psychedelics including psilocybin mushrooms, LSA, and mescaline, and will gladly try any others that come my way.
i snort heroin.
i drink like a fish.
does this make me irresponsible?
not in the eyes of anybody around me, i maintain a good job and take care of my responsibilities and have my priorities in order.
does this make me any less inteligent than one who is sober?
that my freinds, is for you to decide.


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Re: crack-heads,tweakers,junkies,pot-heads,stoners,addicts,etc. [Re: incubaby_421]
    #3713512 - 02/01/05 02:43 PM (12 years, 6 months ago)

Yezah, the idea of good vs bad will always be subjective to the individual. But, in reality there is a spectrum of positive/negative that everything falls into. None of these self-indulgent habits/cravings are necessarily good or bad...you be the judge. But habits are weaknesses and so fall in the negative. And when your habits are affecting others in a negative way, they fall even deeper into the negative.

The REAL evil behind the dealers and addicts lies with the prohibition of substances. And the pedofiles were probably molested by people who were molested by people who were molested by people...

Judge not. :craven:


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