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InvisibleRavus
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Revolution
    #3703200 - 01/30/05 07:18 PM (12 years, 4 months ago)

Do you think the whole world will ever be Clear? If so, what do you think lies in wait for us at the stage of Operating Thetan 9?


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Re: Revolution [Re: Ravus]
    #3703508 - 01/30/05 08:17 PM (12 years, 4 months ago)

this was written on hard drive, but as my following intent, was foolishly  ignored, only to be not, present.
I'll just post it here, and i guess, it is like kinda the same topic.

so sorry in advance, (this i were you supposedly would have just felt a chill) if I'm littering your thread whit my nonsensical, sense :wink:

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I am writing this as if you wrote it.
If you read this as if I was you writing it, my intention, comes true.
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This world is being, made by me.
Everything I do. Connects directly, whit what others doing are.
I am a memory, as a being, this entire living spirit in our collective consciousness.

As conscious, I experience being, a wake, keeping in mind a personality.
In subconscious experience, instating dreams, I change what I experience upon intending.
My mind keeps, as a member, what is lacking material form and substance.
Containing nothing, am I a void, in the void.

My body contains the state of containing nothing, in contain, so many states of being a void, in this void.

As a personalized body, I re mind and re member, what I am keeping in mind.
Spiritual I am, as our soul.
I increase in decreasing of my size.

In spirits, I am melding in emotional states.

My ego, ?I?, merged whit spirit, contained whit in a body, of any kind.
Composed in tune, do not follow time.
Identity?s connected to my ego, is what I perceive.

Traveling time, as all, is a second surrounded by seconds.
The sixtieth of a minute is, linear, in the context of a minute.

Perception of time, however, per seconds, is not.

History is that.
A history, not only time, but also time reflected.
I, reflected in a mirror, shooting the reflecting me, would not have struck me.
Destroying the mirror, it would do.

So is it with time.
Starting this post, it ended.
The start is a mirror, reflected in the same mirror, as the end.

Are you born, are you dying.

Are you living, are you dead..
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Edited by Gomp (01/30/05 08:47 PM)


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Re: Revolution [Re: Gomp]
    #3703837 - 01/30/05 09:07 PM (12 years, 4 months ago)

You're going to be the next Lao Tzu, writing apocryphal poems and bringing forth a new view of perception, eh?

Perhaps it will be called Gompism, or searching for the unity with the Gomp inside all of the Cosmos.


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Re: Revolution [Re: Ravus]
    #3704134 - 01/30/05 10:14 PM (12 years, 4 months ago)

Haha. funny you are, indeed.
Perhaps.. :P
:wink:
..ismism!?


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Re: Revolution [Re: Ravus]
    #3704783 - 01/31/05 12:12 AM (12 years, 4 months ago)

Clear? Thetan 9 stage? Whatcha talkin bout bro? Any links where I can reference this info. Can't really comment on something I know nothing about. :smile:


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Re: Revolution [Re: 13eetleJuice]
    #3707764 - 01/31/05 04:00 PM (12 years, 4 months ago)

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We were all Clears trillions of years ago and because of our well-known perversity, we gave up our shining lives of self-satisfaction to become people. This must not happen again. If every few trillion years, Hubbard has to come back to save us, he may well get cross, impatient and low in Havingness, and then we would be lost for eternity. We must be made to turn into super-Clears. Whether we like it or not, we must be forced, screaming and kicking, to be as superior to Clears as Clears are superior to plain old human beings.

Looked at in the cool light of rationality, a Clear is merely a Thetan released from the shallow confines of his Reactive Mind. He floats about outside his body with a feeling of well-being and an air of amused condescension towards such things as fish-forks, refrigerators, mountains, suns and galaxies, but he cannot do anything about such material objects.

Oh, he can cause some sort of effects on material objects with his body but he is still impotent as a Thetan to DO anything. He cannot grab a star cluster in the Orion Nebula and hurl it with a gay laugh at the Andromeda Galaxy M31. He cannot rearrange the stars in the Milky Way to spell out "Scientology is here to rescue you". He cannot even remove the fleas from the back of his pet dog without using Keating's Powder. Really, he is extremely useless. He is a parody of a true Thetan. He is a dead loss when compared to how real Thetans - Operating Thetans - are.

"Operating Thetan: a Clear who has been familiarised with his environment to a point of total cause over matter, energy, space, time and thought, and who is not in a body."

A Thetan is Clear when so familiarised with his own mind as to be at total cause over it. By communication to his mind, reaching it, he is able to have it. When he has it, he is able to control it. When full control is established, he can dispense with it. Clearing is a First Dynamic pursuit. It concentrates on removing obstacles and resolving problems in order to get the individual to be truly himself. It increases the dynamic urge to survive as Self.



http://members.chello.nl/mgormez/books/vosper/09.html

A bit of information to catch you up on the truth of this world!


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