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OfflineJesusChrist
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Iraqi Elections
    #3702295 - 01/30/05 03:10 PM (11 years, 10 months ago)

Can't believe a thread hasn't been started on this. Could you possibly have a bigger political topic right now?

What a great day. I saw those people dancing in the streets, showing people the purple fingers as a sign of voting.

I am proud to be an American. It is a great day in American and Iraqi history. We have spread the seed of liberty and freedom.

May God Bless our troops, and may God Bless America.


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Re: Iraqi Elections [Re: JesusChrist]
    #3702375 - 01/30/05 03:38 PM (11 years, 10 months ago)

There were insurgents hucking grenades at people with purple fingers.

Spreading seed: :pimpslap:


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Re: Iraqi Elections [Re: JesusChrist]
    #3702417 - 01/30/05 03:53 PM (11 years, 10 months ago)

AP is reporting 72% turnout (for perspective US turnout in last election around 60%) with higher than expected numbers in places like Falluja. I saw one comment that people in line witnessed a splodeydope take out two cops and stayed in line to vote. I can only consider this a rousing success story and soon the "nattering nabobs of negativism" will have to find something else to whinge about.


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Re: Iraqi Elections [Re: zappaisgod]
    #3702436 - 01/30/05 03:59 PM (11 years, 10 months ago)

Considering that only 37 people died, this was election was a success. Those faggot insurgents always say how they will unleash hell, just like Al Qaeda. At the end everyone finds out that all they do is talk shit. They talk the walk, but they don't walk the talk. Pussies.


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Re: Iraqi Elections [Re: downforpot]
    #3702471 - 01/30/05 04:10 PM (11 years, 10 months ago)

I think 72% may be optimisitc, but clearly those elections were a success today. The Iraqi people want self determination.

I heard that they had 15 different attacks at polling places. That is 15 too many, but it is also 15 attacks for literally thousands of polling places and millions of people. The people have spoken and they want democracy.

They have just elected their own government. The growing number of Iraqi soldiers and police are no protecting a legitimate and soverign nation. They saw the millions who voted for freedom and self determination.

Man is that awesome. It is one step in a long road, but it is one big freaking step. And our fighting men are one step closer to coming home. This makes me happy for everyone. Beers are on me!


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Re: Iraqi Elections [Re: downforpot]
    #3702493 - 01/30/05 04:15 PM (11 years, 10 months ago)

:nonono:
Use your vehicle of salvation, my brothers, go buy a gun.
And go give that gun to Jesus and say
"Jesus...you go kill the deciples of Satan and you kill the nazis, Jesus."
Gimme an amen. Amen. Gimme a hallelujah, brother. Hallelujah.
Feel the pain of sweet Jesus. Gimme another amen. Amen. Gimme another. Amen.
You've got to kill the noise.
You've got to kill the pollution of Satan, brother, gimme a hallelujah. Hallelujah.
Have you been healed? Have you been saved? Has it happened to you, brother?
Thank the lord. Praise the lord. I love Jesus. I love Jesus. Kill the pollution...pollution


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Re: Iraqi Elections [Re: JesusChrist]
    #3702512 - 01/30/05 04:19 PM (11 years, 10 months ago)

Are you making a pass at me? I don't go that way brother.

Today is not a day for partisan bickering. Even Dan Rather thinks the election was a big deal.

Today is a great day for humanity.


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Re: Iraqi Elections [Re: SWEDEN]
    #3702560 - 01/30/05 04:28 PM (11 years, 10 months ago)

Sweden, is that from Three Dollar Bill Ya'll?


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Re: Iraqi Elections [Re: downforpot]
    #3702593 - 01/30/05 04:34 PM (11 years, 10 months ago)

why yes it is, their only noteworthy album.


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Re: Iraqi Elections [Re: JesusChrist]
    #3702658 - 01/30/05 04:48 PM (11 years, 10 months ago)

Yes, of course it is a great day for the Iraqis, Hurray for them! I am glad they can finally have elections. But that doesn't change the fact that we forced them into it and further destabilized the Middle East in the process. What kind of example are we setting for the powerful nations of the future, that it is OK to invade a country if you can convert them to your brand of politics?

I guess I should at least be glad that the top nation in this unipolar world is a democracy. But I feel like what we are planning and doing (PNAC) is uncomfortabley close to what the USSR wanted to do with communism: drive nations into socialist revolutions one by one. War is the quick answer. We should lead by example and seek diplomatic solutions, or at least wait until we are attacked before lashing out at the most convenient enemy.


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Re: Iraqi Elections [Re: SWEDEN]
    #3702740 - 01/30/05 05:14 PM (11 years, 10 months ago)

agreed - about 3 dollar bill.
Funny u should mention the USSR similarities. Wasn't this what the yanks were so pissed off about? Them 'owning' all these other nations? Hehe how the tables turn so often, ah the hypocrisy - pity yanks have no sense of irony (or the paradoxical rather).

I wonder how much of a real democratic government this is gonna be. Stinks of a puppet if you ask me. USA arn't going to just invade a country and let it take care of itself later after they tell them to fuck off. I suppose the endless instability that is sure to ensue will be a good enough reason for the military to remain indefinitely so thats some form of control also.

[edit] - hehe on another note, the US a democracy? ... ... ... :rolleyes: - was looking for a pause ... then hysterical laughing and banging of fist emoticon but...

It's funny how the voter turn out was greater in Iraq than the US too, I wonder how much truth there is to that number really. (not saying its not, but then im not saying it is either)


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Re: Iraqi Elections [Re: el_duderino]
    #3702751 - 01/30/05 05:19 PM (11 years, 10 months ago)

I don't know how to paste this so I'll just give the link. Hopefully someone else can do it for us.
http://www.scrappleface.com/MT/archives/002047.html

Iraqi Voting Disrupts News Reports of Bombings

by Scott Ott


(2005-01-30) -- News reports of terrorist bombings in Iraq were marred Sunday by shocking graphic images of Iraqi "insurgents" voting by the millions in their first free democratic election.

Despite reporters' hopes that a well-orchestrated barrage of mortar attacks and suicide bombings would put down the so-called 'freedom insurgency', hastily-formed battalions of rebels swarmed polling places to cast their ballots -- shattering the status quo and striking fear into the hearts of the leaders of the existing terror regime.

Hopes for a return to the stability of tyranny waned as rank upon rank of Iraqi men and women filed out of precinct stations, each armed with the distinctive mark of the new freedom guerrillas -- an ink-stained index finger, which one former Ba'athist called "the evidence of their betrayal of 50 years of Iraqi tradition."

Journalists struggled to put a positive spin on the day's events, but the video images of tyranny's traitors choosing a future of freedom overwhelmed the official story of bloodshed and mayhem.



An ink-stained finger marks an Iraqi woman as one of "tyranny's traitors."


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Re: Iraqi Elections [Re: JesusChrist]
    #3702784 - 01/30/05 05:28 PM (11 years, 10 months ago)

I'm sorry, but are you joking? 60% of Iraq is Shiite, what the hell are these elections going to change? Nothing! Name one single thing that will change beyond the government label changing


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Re: Iraqi Elections [Re: vampirism]
    #3702806 - 01/30/05 05:38 PM (11 years, 10 months ago)

For one thing, the new government will have a distinctly Shiite face to it for the first time in a very long time. They are, after all, the majority in Iraq...


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Re: Iraqi Elections [Re: vampirism]
    #3702826 - 01/30/05 05:43 PM (11 years, 10 months ago)

For the Americans and particularly for the BuSh administration, this is a marked victory that will help justify future military action. That is one thing that has changed. A change for the Iraqis will likely be a shift in power from the Sunnis to the Shiites, specificaly if the cleric Ahmad Chalabi is the victor.


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Re: Iraqi Elections [Re: SWEDEN]
    #3702839 - 01/30/05 05:47 PM (11 years, 10 months ago)

:shrug:

I guess it might be a baby step towards something better.  Either way, America will keep its troops in Iraq for a long while still and you still have the same divided people..  but somehow, I don't think they're going to begin liking America all of a sudden.

As to future military action - action where? Iran? If so, goodbye America.


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Re: Iraqi Elections [Re: JesusChrist]
    #3702857 - 01/30/05 05:53 PM (11 years, 10 months ago)

:thumbup:

The insurgent threats probably inspired the people more than ever to go vote.

After all, if Americans were told they shouldn't vote, they'd probably line up to vote longer than ever. People will always resist tyranny, whether it's the Iraqis against the insurgents or the Americans


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Re: Iraqi Elections [Re: Ravus]
    #3702861 - 01/30/05 05:54 PM (11 years, 10 months ago)

i doubt it. the Americans are there as personal bodyguards; only reason


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Re: Iraqi Elections [Re: SWEDEN]
    #3702868 - 01/30/05 05:55 PM (11 years, 10 months ago)

"The cleric Chalabi?" I can find no mention that Chalabi is a cleric. Nor is this election for a national leader. It is to select a group of people to draft a constitution.


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Re: Iraqi Elections [Re: vampirism]
    #3702875 - 01/30/05 05:56 PM (11 years, 10 months ago)

What do you doubt? I never said the American military wasn't there as personal bodyguards, I said that the Iraqis will resist tyranny, as will the Americans here in the U.S. Though it often seems to take so long that you wonder if the people who desire freedom have fallen asleep.


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