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OfflineTrainwreck
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Morning Glory Wine
    #3700089 - 01/29/05 09:01 PM (19 years, 1 day ago)

After reading something about this on Erowid I decided to try it. I got a hold of about 12 morning glory flowers (pearly gates) and they've been sitting in a bowl of water for 2 weeks. The waters turned a kinda pink, almost orange color, and it smells really nice. The thing is, I cant find much information on the effects, all I could find was it gives a decent alcoholic effect with a very mild psychedelic effect as well, but that's not to informative. I've never done morning glory seeds because I keep hearing bad things about the LSA experience, I hope its nothing like that. I just don't like trying things I don't know much about. Has anyone tried this before or know anything about it? Maybe how long it lasts, or exactly how "mild" the psychedelic effects are? I got the stuff right here in front of me I'm just not sure if I want to drink it, lol. Any help would be appreciated, thanks.


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Re: Morning Glory Wine [Re: Trainwreck]
    #3700097 - 01/29/05 09:03 PM (19 years, 1 day ago)

So wait, you soaked the MG flowers in the wine?


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Re: Morning Glory Wine [Re: dblaney]
    #3700103 - 01/29/05 09:05 PM (19 years, 1 day ago)

No, you soak them in plain water, its just called "morning glory wine".

Here look:
http://www.erowid.org/plants/morning_glory/morning_glory_faq.shtml#wine


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Re: Morning Glory Wine [Re: Trainwreck]
    #3700134 - 01/29/05 09:19 PM (19 years, 1 day ago)

That's curious...as you noted, a search turned up nada, so your hesitation is wise. I'll continue looking but I would hold off for the time being. After all, better safe than sorry.

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Re: Morning Glory Wine [Re: Trainwreck]
    #3700263 - 01/29/05 10:04 PM (19 years, 1 day ago)

Quote:

. The flowers of the morning glory may be steeped in water for a week or two to produce a mildly alcoholic wine with a distinctively pleasant flavor and very mild psychedelic effect, on the order of hemp. Once again herbs and/or honey can be added to good effect.




Steeped? Steeped implies heat. Does he mean simmer it on low for a week? I doubt it. if no heat is used, I am not sure the plain water could extract much.. Was the bowl covered, did you sit it in a cool or hot place?


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Re: Morning Glory Wine [Re: dblaney]
    #3700277 - 01/29/05 10:11 PM (19 years, 1 day ago)

I agree this cant mean to have the flowers simmering for a week or more. That's ridiculous. So I simply had them soaking in a bowl of water. It was covered with a lid, and the water has just been sitting in a dark spot in my closet and has remained at room temperature.

Furthermore, I've been searching and searching for information on this wine but with no luck. So now I'm looking at the flower by itself and what its made up of. I've found there would be nothing wrong with eating the flowers raw, they wouldn't make you sick or anything like that. So I think I'm just gonna drink it and play the guinea pig. Really the worst that would happen is, well absolutely nothing. I'll let you know.


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Re: Morning Glory Wine [Re: Trainwreck]
    #3700307 - 01/29/05 10:28 PM (19 years, 1 day ago)

Cant wait to hear how this turns out :wink:


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Re: Morning Glory Wine [Re: Trainwreck]
    #3700308 - 01/29/05 10:28 PM (19 years, 1 day ago)

Okay well I drank it. Didnt taste to bad, kinda like real watered down juice. I'm really starting to doubt this doing anything at all. Guess its worth a shot though.


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Re: Morning Glory Wine [Re: Trainwreck]
    #3702863 - 01/30/05 03:55 PM (19 years, 1 day ago)

Well, anything happen? Im curious to hear how this went.


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Re: Morning Glory Wine [Re: keepontruckin]
    #3702921 - 01/30/05 04:09 PM (19 years, 1 day ago)

Nope, no effects at all. I waited a good 4 hours after drinking it before I went to sleep. I'm still curious about this though, there has to be some way to make it work. I'm going to email the guys at Erowid about this, maybe they can help me out.


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Re: Morning Glory Wine [Re: Trainwreck]
    #3703091 - 01/30/05 04:55 PM (19 years, 1 day ago)

If you soaked the MG flowers in WINE for a month, the alcohol would brew the active ingredients out, with or without heat.. Try letting them sit in some vodka or wine for a month and try again. good luck I am curious how it will go if you try.


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Re: Morning Glory Wine [Re: flowstone]
    #3703233 - 01/30/05 05:25 PM (19 years, 1 day ago)

I was thinking the same thing. I got 12 MG flowers in a bowl of white wine now, covered with a lid. I'll let it sit for about 3-4 weeks and see what happens. I was also going to try to let some simmer for a few hours and drink that, but I cant get any more flowers at the moment. When I get some more I'm going to try a few different ways as well. I'll let you know how everything turns out.


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Re: Morning Glory Wine [Re: Trainwreck]
    #3703251 - 01/30/05 05:29 PM (19 years, 1 day ago)

3-4 weeks is probably more than enough time.

Also, I would be careful if you decide to simmer any of the flowers, because if they contain any LSAs, they would be totally destroyed from the heat.

Good luck!


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"What is in us that turns a deaf ear to the cries of human suffering?"

"Belief is a beautiful armor
But makes for the heaviest sword"
- John Mayer

Making the noise "penicillin" is no substitute for actually taking penicillin.

"This country, with its institutions, belongs to the people who inhabit it. Whenever they shall grow weary of the existing government, they can exercise their constitutional right of amending it, or their revolutionary right to dismember or overthrow it." -Abraham Lincoln


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Re: Morning Glory Wine [Re: Trainwreck]
    #3703272 - 01/30/05 05:35 PM (19 years, 1 day ago)

Do the flowers contain LSA? If it doesn't work, how about soaking an ounce or so of crushed seeds in some real wine, and then filtering them off?


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Re: Morning Glory Wine [Re: Ravus]
    #3703297 - 01/30/05 05:41 PM (19 years, 1 day ago)

I'm not sure if the flowers contain any LSA, though I'm not sure whats supposed to give you these effects if not LSA. There just isnt enough information on this, so it looks like I gotta try and test untill I get something. Would sure be awesome if I discover something that worked. I'll keep you guys posted, its just gonna take some time.


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Re: Morning Glory Wine [Re: Trainwreck]
    #3703560 - 01/30/05 06:26 PM (19 years, 1 day ago)

The MG wine sounds pretty good. I'm gonna think about trying it. Is there any ammount your suppoised to do like 5 flowers for 5 cups? :thumbup:


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Re: Morning Glory Wine [Re: ShroomOmatic]
    #3703829 - 01/30/05 07:06 PM (19 years, 1 day ago)

No, I'm not sure about the ratio of flowers to liquid. I have 12 flowers in about 3-4 cups of wine, we'll see how it turns out.


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Re: Morning Glory Wine [Re: Trainwreck]
    #3704350 - 01/30/05 08:53 PM (19 years, 23 hours ago)

if u have access to the flowers you should prolly be able to get some organic seeds too. try adding some crushed seeds to the mix inorder to get some lsa in the mix. enough for a mild effect hopefuly without the cramps and illfeelings.


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Re: Morning Glory Wine [Re: Dimmy]
    #3708699 - 01/31/05 04:48 PM (19 years, 3 hours ago)

The whole point of this experiment though is to get some effects without having to use any seeds. I want to see if you can get at least mild effects by just using the flowers. That might be a good idea though, I'll see how it goes with just the flowers, then maybe if I get a good recipe for making the wine with just flowers I'll try adding some seeds for even more effects. I just might be on to something here :mushroom2:


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Re: Morning Glory Wine [Re: Trainwreck]
    #3717127 - 02/02/05 12:54 AM (18 years, 11 months ago)

well, if you have access to a ton of flowers, say a pound wet.. you could put them fresh into a gallon jug, and just top off with some high quality vodka, let sit in a dark place for 3 weeks, with a few swirls to mix it up, and probably get the most potent product you could probably get with an alcohol extraction..


I was thinking maybe the person who wrote the trip report did not use alcohol.. I think the flowers may ferment and produce alcohol even if left to sit in water for a long time.. can anyone confirm? This small amount of alcohol may have produced effects.. 12 flowers is not enough to work with.. I would think with the flowers you would need a lot to produce those effects..Maybe even get a press and squeeze the essential oils from the fresh flowers, and drink them like that.. Or use as a lotion to absorb the lsa through the skin, or whatever is in the flowers( is it even possible to absorb lsa through the skin.. maybe just drink it.?)


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Re: Morning Glory Wine [Re: Trainwreck]
    #3720048 - 02/02/05 04:30 PM (18 years, 11 months ago)



There were tons of threads on this subject about a year or 2 back.

Some tips:

-Use Hawaian Baby Woodrose seeds instead of morning glory. I think its 5 or 10 times the LSA per seed.

-I'm not sure how many seeds the flowers have, but you need at least 100 for noticable effects.

-The seeds need to be crushed, for sure.

-Be carefull, a lot of these seeds (from the store) are coated with chemicals which can make you seriously ill if ingested in these quantaties.  It needs to be organic.

- When you buy HBWR seeds, make sure they are actualy hawaian, and not indian.

- When preparing HBWR, scrape off the outer shell.  This gets rid of the major nausea associated with LSA trips.

- NEVER go above 20 HBWR seeds.  Actualy, i think 12 was the max seeds you should do at once.  The chems in the seeds affect the constriction of blood vessles in your body. At high doses you may feel your legs cramp and start to hurt. This can be very dangerous.  5 HBWR seeds is a good start. 10 is a 'strong' trip.


Ok, i'm sorta high and i just read the thread over a bit and realized your little experiment.  So i typed all this in vain.  Anyway, i'm not gonna erase my efforts so just take what advice you will.  :lol:
Btw, the mild psychedelic - alcohol effect is pretty much an LSA trip in itself.  I've noticed that more unlike LSD, LSA trips vary greatly between people.  Some people love them, some hate them, some are ok with them.

For me, 5 HBWR seeds using lemon extract gave me nausea and a short mild trip, which had me seeing everyone for what they were.  It was not the greatest trip because everyone seemed fake, and it was sort of depressing.  However, that couldve been affected by my initial mood.  Everyone would be a basic 'person' (clones) but they all grew up different, and all had to put on masks to respond to the world around them. Which is not far from the truth.  Extremely Insightfull, but depressing sorta.  Anyway, the body high was enjoyable, and it all had a 'careless' feel to it.  Sorta like being drunk.

I'm willing to give it another shot with a proper extract and some anti-nausea medication.

But really, the flowers are a waste of time. Get 10 HBWR and experiment a bit.

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Re: Morning Glory Wine [Re: RuNE]
    #3720136 - 02/02/05 04:55 PM (18 years, 11 months ago)

Okay guys... I don't want to sound rude or anything, but I don't need any information on the seeds, they're uses, or the effects of LSA. I know all that. I'm trying to find a way to get effects without using any seeds. I don't have access to copious amounts of flowers either, there is a few plants that are growing close to where I live, the plants aren't even mine but I pick the flowers anyways, lol. So, I'm trying a few different methods using only flowers and we'll just have to wait and see if anything comes from it. There is talk of a wine that produceds effects of LSA made from only flowers on Erowid, so there has to be something to it. If it all fails then that's fine too; that's why its called an experiment.

Anyways, thanks for all the help, I'll take what I need :thumbup: :mushroom2:


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Re: Morning Glory Wine [Re: Trainwreck]
    #18107352 - 04/14/13 10:32 AM (10 years, 9 months ago)

This is most likely a little late but yes the flowers to contain small amounts of LSA and other alkaloids present In morning Glorys but at a much lower level. I do believe the flowers do contain sugar so making wine with them should be quite simple. Gather the same amount of flowers that you would seeds so anywhere from like 30 to 250 flowers should be a start . Now blend or press these flowers to a mush and sprinkle sugar on top . The more sugar the higher the alcohol level will be in the final product. Alcohol level will most likely be around 8 to 12% !! then add slightly warm water and shake very well until all the sugar mixes In. And use ordinary bread yeast or wine yeast just a pinch for every 500ml should be good . Once all this is done let sit in a dark room for 2 to 5 weeks. Filter , chill , then drink!!! Hopefully the morning Glorys effect will be felt but if not you will get a nice buzz from the alcohol!! . I've done all this with seeds and it really makes a nice tasting wine!!  And it's effects are quite present and pleasant.


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Re: Morning Glory Wine [Re: Trainwreck]
    #23175896 - 05/01/16 11:11 AM (7 years, 8 months ago)

this is an old thread lol The flowers have a natural yeast, you won't make it that alcoholic by just placing it in water, you need time and sugar also, lol there will be little to no psychedelic properties, the lsa is in the seeds, however without giving too much a way, lsa is soluble in alcohol. so perhaps you can combine, or use a certain extraction method.


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Re: Morning Glory Wine [Re: ali crowell]
    #23175909 - 05/01/16 11:16 AM (7 years, 8 months ago)

maybe instead of sprinkle the sugar, you add a normal 1 to 2 cups sugar, and instead of sprinkling that, you sprinkle some peppermint, with your wine and extraction combination, maybe measuring out how much a dose is and throwing up to 4 doses per litre.


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