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InvisibleSwami
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Death of a loved one has no effect on your emotions
    #3699064 - 01/29/05 06:29 PM (11 years, 10 months ago)

Note: Real philosophy here. Stay with me on this one.

Most people will tell you the death of a loved one makes them sad. I contend that it does not. WTF you ask? Let's say that my dad just died and I did not know about it. Would I feel any different ?(Psychic stuff aside for the moment.) No, I would feel as a did an hour ago. Therefore his death had ZERO effect on me.

Tonight my brother calls me with the news. Suddenly I break down in tears. It is ONLY my idea about his death that makes me sad. Then my bro calls me back and as it was another man with the same name and not my father who died and that the police were mistaken. Suddenly the sun comes out again. All of my reactions are self generated based on an idea and not the event.


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Re: Death of a loved one has no effect on your emotions [Re: Swami]
    #3699070 - 01/29/05 06:32 PM (11 years, 10 months ago)

You are right.


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Re: Death of a loved one has no effect on your emotions [Re: Swami]
    #3699084 - 01/29/05 06:37 PM (11 years, 10 months ago)

True, it is mostly self generated self pity, but it does indicate a love for the individual who died. I would be pissed about the wrong familly being notified though...typical incompetance.


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Re: Death of a loved one has no effect on your emotions [Re: skystone]
    #3699086 - 01/29/05 06:37 PM (11 years, 10 months ago)

Vernonism: "Control of reactions is control of life"


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Re: Death of a loved one has no effect on your emotions [Re: Huehuecoyotl]
    #3699111 - 01/29/05 06:44 PM (11 years, 10 months ago)

Didn't mean to obsfucate: this was ALL hypothetical. No animals or people actually died in the creation of this thread.


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Re: Death of a loved one has no effect on your emotions [Re: Swami]
    #3699142 - 01/29/05 06:52 PM (11 years, 10 months ago)

Indeed, something has to walk through the doors of perception before there is any change. If you never got the signal that there was any external change, than there is no internal change.

I agree with your last sentence nonetheless, humans are united with change through perception.


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Re: Death of a loved one has no effect on your emotions [Re: Ravus]
    #3699146 - 01/29/05 06:54 PM (11 years, 10 months ago)

This inspires me to call my Dad. It could happen at anytime...


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Re: Death of a loved one has no effect on your emotions [Re: Swami]
    #3699633 - 01/29/05 09:13 PM (11 years, 10 months ago)

you know when a loved one passes on, and it doesn't really "hit you" till weeks later when their presence is no longer there.

yeah...


how about when age is a factor for some?

is a funeral likely to be as sorrowful when a child dies compared to when a person who is in their 90s?

so we look at the idea of the death of your supposed father. the idea of your dad dying would still be a sad one even if you father hasn't passed on.


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Re: Death of a loved one has no effect on your emotions [Re: Swami]
    #3699884 - 01/29/05 10:10 PM (11 years, 10 months ago)

I got so caught up in the theme of the post I forgot the "suppose". Sorry.


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Re: Death of a loved one has no effect on your emotions [Re: Huehuecoyotl]
    #3700371 - 01/30/05 12:59 AM (11 years, 10 months ago)

i think that when a person you love dies, you mostly feel regret. ie " i wish i would have......." etc.

For example, last year my grandfather passed away, 2 years earlier my other grandfather, and all i could think about during the funeral was the fact that in the last 5 years of their lives i didnt spend much time with them.

I have really come to believe, that people never really "die". yes their bodies seize to exist, but every experience you have ever had with them lives on in your memories, and in their passing you tell those memories to others, who will remember them.

Im pretty drunk and in a philosophical state right now, so forgive me if none of this made sense.


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Re: Death of a loved one has no effect on your emotions [Re: CPT_InSaNo]
    #3700545 - 01/30/05 01:49 AM (11 years, 10 months ago)

The first time someone passed away close to me it was my cousin I cried for a couple days and thought about how bad he had it in life and have to go out being murdered and never seeing him again is what made me sad.. Then the second time when my Boyfriend who was also murdered passed away I only cried for about an hour and just thought about how I would never see him again. I still cry somtime but not because they died really.. just that I'll never be able to see them or hear their voice ever again.


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Re: Death of a loved one has no effect on your emotions [Re: Swami]
    #3700725 - 01/30/05 02:35 AM (11 years, 10 months ago)

Maybe it's just me... but I think this is pretty obvious.
But then I was a quick learner when it came to the subject of the end of one's existence.


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