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DMT and a wheatgrass juicer.
    #3697995 - 01/29/05 01:14 PM (12 years, 4 months ago)

URL: http://www.erowid.org/chemicals/dmt/dmt_info2.shtml

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From: (John Spinnato)
Newsgroups: alt.drugs
Subject: DMT extraction from Phalaris
Date: 5 Oct 94 20:25:00 GMT

DMT extraction from Phalaris grass:
The latest info from The Entheogen Review is that one can avoid chemical extraction altogether, and use a wheatgrass juicer. Jim DeKorne is the editor of this excellent newsletter, as well as the author of Psychedelic Shamanism. Mr. DeKorne warns readers to exercise caution when using extracts from Phalaris until more is known about it.

According to a Soma Graphics report, the following info is taken from a letter by Jim DeKorne:

    "The latest scoop is that you don't even have to use chemical extractions anymore - run several handfuls of grass through a wheatgrass juicer (sold in most health food stores) and you'll wind up with a glass or so of incredibly potent liquid. One teaspoon (with MAO inhibition, of course), is a standard dose with strong grass. Only two teaspoons proved very challenging to one of my correspondents - an OD! The juice can be dried and smoked in a bong - two tokes will usually do it."




Has any one verified this? I'm not familiar with wheatgrass juicers.. would psychotria viridis leaves also be applicable to this method?

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Re: DMT and a wheatgrass juicer. [Re: ergot]
    #3698046 - 01/29/05 01:25 PM (12 years, 4 months ago)

Sounds Interesting. I would like to know more about this.


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Re: DMT and a wheatgrass juicer. [Re: ergot]
    #3698248 - 01/29/05 02:16 PM (12 years, 4 months ago)

I am incredibly skeptical of this.

1-I don't see one teaspoon of any liquid dissolving a full smoked dose of DMT, let alone a full oral dose.

2-2 teaspoons an OD?! ha-ha.

3-With purified freebase DMT it's very common that you have to take 3-4 long tokes to achieve a breakthrough. How can 2 tokes of INPURE non-freebase material put you in a flash?

Until further proof is shown, i'll just think this person either is a liar, extremely sensitive to tryptamines, or just doesn't know how to distinguish DMT from placebo...

EDIT: Wait a sec. Isn't phalaris mostly 5-MeO-DMT? If so, maybe there is a POSSIBILITY that he could achieve effects from 2 tokes and that a teaspoon of liquid may hold one dose. I dunno, i'm still very skeptical...


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Re: DMT and a wheatgrass juicer. [Re: esin]
    #3698265 - 01/29/05 02:19 PM (12 years, 4 months ago)

^^^ Yeah, I'd have to agree. I was more interested in it as a method of ayahuasca preparation.

P.S. Would this cut down on the possibility of purging, at all?


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Re: DMT and a wheatgrass juicer. [Re: ergot]
    #3699054 - 01/29/05 06:20 PM (12 years, 4 months ago)

Check out the experience vaults at Erowid....Phalarisuasca sounds not only unpleasent but perhaps dangerous....hasnt there been hypertensive crisis` with 5-Me0 and MAOIs`?

As far as it being smokeable? I dunno...I heard that only P. Aquatica has significant quanities of 5-Me0, but even if that were the grass in question I still cant picture it containing enough of it to experience a full blown flash off two hits, without serious stressing. If your gonna experiment be careful....start low.

But as far using PV? A wheatgrass juicer might be a perfect way to make a no hassle ayahuasca...let us know how it turns out if you attempt it.


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Re: DMT and a wheatgrass juicer. [Re: Synthetic_Sun]
    #3700690 - 01/30/05 02:25 AM (12 years, 4 months ago)

i wouldnt do phycotria because you dont need nearly asmuch material. and its leaves dont really hold that much water, as aposed to heaps of grass that you would need _ergot_

my first time ever trying a extraction. i used a juicman juicer with limited results(clogged/ jammed way to easy) which brings up my next point. phalaris is WAY more fiberous then fresh wheat grass. so i figure teh same jammign /clogging woudl happen. just my thought though.


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Re: DMT and a wheatgrass juicer. [Re: the man]
    #3701749 - 01/30/05 11:32 AM (12 years, 4 months ago)

Thanks, the_man.


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Re: DMT and a wheatgrass juicer. [Re: the man]
    #3703291 - 01/30/05 07:40 PM (12 years, 4 months ago)

freeze and thaw, it breaks it down. The guy at the ethno store swears by philaris grass!!! he uses philaris grass and passion flower to make his sage drink!


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Re: DMT and a wheatgrass juicer. [Re: OOKLA]
    #3703997 - 01/30/05 09:36 PM (12 years, 4 months ago)

thats sweet mild aya. cool

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