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    #3697831 - 01/29/05 12:33 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

It dont matter to much about contams before you put it in the pressure cooker, because the cooker kills all the contams right? Also my chamber the temp is around 80 to 90 degrees (it varies) with the humidity at 80%. I dont use perlite i juts put distilled water in the bottom and have chicken wire an inch above the water so the cakes dont touch em. Is the temp and humidity good enough?


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Re: dumb question [Re: doop04]
    #3697852 - 01/29/05 12:39 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

You didn't say what your substrate is. If it's brown rice flour and vermiculite, yes. The pressure cooker will take care of everything.

Your temperature is right for colonization. You might want it a little cooler after you birth the cakes. People say 76 F is about right.

I'd put a little peroxide, or a very little bleach into the chamber in the standing water to keep it from going evil.

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Re: dumb question [Re: doop04]
    #3697868 - 01/29/05 12:43 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

Why do you have standing water in your terrium...

Lemme eleborate..Standing water on the bottom = contamation

And your fruiting chamber needs to be between 70 and 80...(74F optimal..) If your fruiting temp. is 90 then you might risk killing you mushies, 96F is deadly...

And no, it doesn't really matter b/c you kill them all in the PC..But, if you get some type of cleaning solution(lysol,bleach) in your mix, then you'll probably grow mutants(ugly looking, strange growth, ect ect)


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Re: dumb question [Re: IGnosticAbhorI]
    #3697871 - 01/29/05 12:45 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

Tock's right, but if you put bleach in, maybe sure you put in only a tiny bit (you shouldn't really smell it...if u smell it, then that's what your cake is going to breath in..)

Mushies absorb everything, that's why if you find them on highways u should never eat them, they suck in gas fumes ALL day...


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Re: dumb question [Re: IGnosticAbhorI]
    #3698341 - 01/29/05 02:38 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

so just get some perlite and soak it and put that on the bottom....cause i dont wanna put bleach in there...what i dont understand is that shrooms can grow outside in 90+ degrees so how will it kill them


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Re: dumb question [Re: doop04]
    #3698357 - 01/29/05 02:42 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

It wont kill them but they dont grow outside in 90+ degree conditions. They grow when its cooler outside. They fruit best at 72-77 degrees. With your temps you WILL have problems, your above incubating temps at that point..they'll think its summer and its time to get there network set up and ready to start fruiting. You'll have tough time fruiting them that hot.


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Re: dumb question [Re: scatmanrav]
    #3698401 - 01/29/05 02:52 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

Moe's Outdoor Growing Tek:

This tek is intended for the outdoor cultivation of Psilocybe cubensis mushrooms. It is suitable for climates where the daytime temperature is between 65?F-100?F in the Summer for at least a few weeks.

I got that from moes outdoor tek on this site. Some people said it work for them and the temp was in the mid 90's....I guess its different for indoor cultivation. Is 80 Degrees ok ?


Edited by doop04 (01/29/05 03:08 PM)


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Re: dumb question [Re: doop04]
    #3698481 - 01/29/05 03:13 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

I wanna use perlite, but the perlite I saw at the store was Miracle Grow perlite with a whole buncha other crap in it? Will that work


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Re: dumb question [Re: doop04]
    #3698498 - 01/29/05 03:18 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

Lava rocks and a bubble wand isn't too much more $$$. You'll be happier in the long run. Scooping out perlits sucks ass.


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Re: dumb question [Re: metasin]
    #3698568 - 01/29/05 03:38 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

Lava rocks and a bubble wand?


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Re: dumb question [Re: doop04]
    #3698576 - 01/29/05 03:42 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

Lava rocks should be in the same section as perlite. Bubble wands are at the fish store. Search PMP


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Re: dumb question [Re: scatmanrav]
    #3698577 - 01/29/05 03:43 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

Quote:

doop04 said:
Moe's Outdoor Growing Tek:

This tek is intended for the outdoor cultivation of Psilocybe cubensis mushrooms. It is suitable for climates where the daytime temperature is between 65?F-100?F in the Summer for at least a few weeks.

I got that from moes outdoor tek on this site. Some people said it work for them and the temp was in the mid 90's....I guess its different for indoor cultivation. Is 80 Degrees ok ?




It is suitable for climates where the daytime temperature is between 65?F-100?F in the Summer for at least a few weeks.

This is incubation as I said...if you try and FRUIT in these temps your mycelium will think its SUMMER and not want to fruit.

By the way, this isnt to say they WONT fruit. Cubies CAN fruit in 80-100 degrees but you'll find it very very difficult, also difficult to do well, and also difficult to do indoors without all the fresh air outdoor cubies get.


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Growing with bags, start to finish (including my new grain and substrate prep)
Anyone looking to start bulk tubs/mono tubs/shotgun hybrids? Good tubs to use..
How I do grain (old still good tips)
Turn your closet into a fruiting chamber
Casing layer colonization and overlay


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Re: dumb question [Re: scatmanrav]
    #3698588 - 01/29/05 03:46 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

OK thanks for the info I didnt know that....ya learn something new everyday.


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Re: dumb question [Re: doop04]
    #3698618 - 01/29/05 03:58 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

Oh and the mircle grow brand of just perlite shouldnt have anything else in it..its just miracle grows brand. Lava rocks may be a little more difficult to find but would be worth saving the mess of perlite. Perlite can be had at home depot but I dont think lava rocks can (also called hydroton and geolite) but look around, they can be found at some places (hydroponic stores for sure..where else I dont know)


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Growing with bags, start to finish (including my new grain and substrate prep)
Anyone looking to start bulk tubs/mono tubs/shotgun hybrids? Good tubs to use..
How I do grain (old still good tips)
Turn your closet into a fruiting chamber
Casing layer colonization and overlay


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Re: dumb question [Re: scatmanrav]
    #3698644 - 01/29/05 04:06 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

Is it ok to put the cakes directly on the soaked perlite or lava rocks....or should i get some chicken wire and put an inch above the lava rocks or perlite


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Re: dumb question [Re: doop04]
    #3698670 - 01/29/05 04:12 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

Just put them on the lids of the jars or some tin foil. No need for suspending. You can put them directly on if you want but I think its better to have them up off the wet shit.


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Anyone looking to start bulk tubs/mono tubs/shotgun hybrids? Good tubs to use..
How I do grain (old still good tips)
Turn your closet into a fruiting chamber
Casing layer colonization and overlay


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Re: dumb question [Re: scatmanrav]
    #3698678 - 01/29/05 04:14 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

good stuff i didnt think it would be to smart to put them on hte wet shyt...i also heard when a cake is fully colonized its harder to contaminate because the mycilium fights off bacteria?


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Re: dumb question [Re: doop04]
    #3698704 - 01/29/05 04:24 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

Bacteria and mold...yes this is true.


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Anyone looking to start bulk tubs/mono tubs/shotgun hybrids? Good tubs to use..
How I do grain (old still good tips)
Turn your closet into a fruiting chamber
Casing layer colonization and overlay


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Re: dumb question [Re: scatmanrav]
    #3698719 - 01/29/05 04:29 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

I love u guys.....thanks man wish me luck


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Re: dumb question [Re: doop04]
    #3698758 - 01/29/05 04:38 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

One more thing and ill stop i promise....should i drill holes in the bottom so i can let the water out even if i use the pmp method or is the water ok in there with the lava rock or perlite?


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