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Offlinejak
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I need some answers, very frustraited!!!
    #3697513 - 01/29/05 10:37 AM (12 years, 6 months ago)

I have 2 cakes in a clear rubbermaid container, temp 72-75, humidity 75%, fan through out the day and mist every so often. I had 1 small flush (10 grams) wet from 1 cake and nothing from the other one, just a few pins on it that havent growen either.

I dunked both cakes again yesterday, but can't seem to get anymore fruits. The one cake that I did get some fruits from has some small pins on it that have been there for almost a week and haven't really grown. There are no contams so I don't know whats wrong here.

Any advice would be much appreciated. If you need to know more let me know.  :confused: :frown: :confused:


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Re: I need some answers, very frustraited!!! [Re: jak]
    #3697547 - 01/29/05 10:49 AM (12 years, 6 months ago)

Well are you fruiting those 2 cakes in a seperate terrium?
Did you do anything noticably different to one or the other?.
Maybe you go some cleaning chemicals in one?
When you dunked did you scrape off all the pins?(wouldn't cause it to not fruit but the pins that u left would have rot..

And after you anser these I can probably help you further..

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Re: I need some answers, very frustraited!!! [Re: IGnosticAbhorI]
    #3697548 - 01/29/05 10:51 AM (12 years, 6 months ago)

Just re-read it;)

Well, for the cake that isn't fruiting, did you cold shock it?
Did you induce light?(12/12)...
I'm trying to think of more Q's or many even some anwsers.....gimme a mintue...lol;)


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Re: I need some answers, very frustraited!!! [Re: IGnosticAbhorI]
    #3697555 - 01/29/05 10:56 AM (12 years, 6 months ago)

They are in the same terarium.

No cleaning chems should've gotten on them. I don't remove the whole lid to fan, just lift 1 side up and down for a minute or so.

No pins were scraped off during dunking, I was ver carefull about that.

Cold shocked multible times and yes it gets 12 -14 hrs of light a day.


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    #3697568 - 01/29/05 11:02 AM (12 years, 6 months ago)

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Re: I need some answers, very frustraited!!! [Re: jak]
    #3697577 - 01/29/05 11:06 AM (12 years, 6 months ago)

Also I mixed a little bleach in with the water when I wetted down the perlite. No bleach got on the cakes and the cakes are sitting on plastic so they are not touching the perlite.

Do you think the bleach smell in the air inside the terairium might be causing a problem????


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Re: I need some answers, very frustraited!!! [Re: jak]
    #3697634 - 01/29/05 11:33 AM (12 years, 6 months ago)

Isn't the humidity too low? I thought it was suppose to be around 95%.


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Re: I need some answers, very frustraited!!! [Re: pinkfloydms]
    #3697709 - 01/29/05 11:50 AM (12 years, 6 months ago)

I was told that you want it high for pinning 95% and 80%or so for fruiting


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Re: I need some answers, very frustraited!!! [Re: jak]
    #3697728 - 01/29/05 11:56 AM (12 years, 6 months ago)

nope you were told wrong.


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Re: I need some answers, very frustraited!!! [Re: lemon_lw]
    #3697787 - 01/29/05 12:23 PM (12 years, 6 months ago)

Yea, you should have it at 95% until pinning, then you lower it a bit.
As for the bleach, well, if it smells like bleach, then that might have done it...
O, and when you Dunk, You're suppose to scrap off All pins, otherwise they'll rot, so, maybe you should scrap and then cold shock, then try to fruit...

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Re: I need some answers, very frustraited!!! [Re: IGnosticAbhorI]
    #3697820 - 01/29/05 12:31 PM (12 years, 6 months ago)

again raise humidty fan out at least 3 times a day, lazy. people want all these magic little guys to come up, with out doing everything perfect u will get pussy size flushes.


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Re: I need some answers, very frustraited!!! [Re: IGnosticAbhorI]
    #3697900 - 01/29/05 12:52 PM (12 years, 6 months ago)

Quote:

IGnosticAbhorI said, in part:

When you dunked did you scrape off all the pins?(wouldn't cause it to not fruit but the pins that u left would have rot..





That's what I thought until Hyphae schooled me here. Aborts have to come off, I think, but the pins are your next flush being born.


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Re: I need some answers, very frustraited!!! [Re: ticktock]
    #3697939 - 01/29/05 01:02 PM (12 years, 6 months ago)

Umm...tock...lol
I just read this in your link lol

"Lets begin with your cakes they need to be incubated at optimum temps (for best results) 82-84 degrees until colonized fully this means not just the surface but throughout the cake. This will usually happen 3-4 days after the outside has been colonized. I then suggest a 24hr. fridge dunk in "clean" water after the cakes have been cleaned of all pins/knots (anything that can be wiped off the surface) under the faucet using cold water, don't worry about contams because you washed your hands with anti bac. soap didn't ya?

a 24hr. fridge dunk in "clean" water after the cakes have been cleaned of all pins/knots (anything that can be wiped off the surface)

Even hyp says to clean everything off b4 a dunk...i said that everything should be scraped off otherwise it'll rot....your kind of confusing me lol


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Re: I need some answers, very frustraited!!! [Re: IGnosticAbhorI]
    #3698029 - 01/29/05 01:22 PM (12 years, 6 months ago)

That scrape is after colonization when you break up the cake and case it. You don't want to bury any primordia.

Between flushes;
"Word of advice don't scrape a casing and do patch when necessary thats the only way to do it right!!! The myc's energy is totally wasted when colonizing the casing a second time....... "


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Re: I need some answers, very frustraited!!! [Re: ticktock]
    #3698084 - 01/29/05 01:35 PM (12 years, 6 months ago)

You said you had cakes, not casings, and even so I think youre getting kinda confuzed. Dont waste anything by dunking it with pins on it. Put them to good use first!!


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Re: I need some answers, very frustraited!!! [Re: metasin]
    #3768883 - 02/11/05 11:35 PM (12 years, 6 months ago)

Thats kind of waste of time recondite you see you most often have a crappy pinning cake when it pins invitro because of the higher CO2 levels. Not only are you wasting time your wasting the myc's energy as well as the available nutes. I don't waste time waiting for cakes to pin before birthing as I am harvesting while others are just setting their pins! :wink: After time you will all come to understand and some well will miss the point entirely! :frown:


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