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Greatest Potency?
    #3693439 - 01/28/05 12:35 PM (19 years, 1 month ago)

I was wonding what some opinions were on strains that seem to have the greatest amount of potency. I know a cube is a cube but there has to be some differences. :rolleyes:

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Re: Greatest Potency? [Re: p4kSouL]
    #3693477 - 01/28/05 12:42 PM (19 years, 1 month ago)

just within cube's or other species too? cus cyan and trops are more potent than cubes


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Re: Greatest Potency? [Re: Damn_Skippy]
    #3693504 - 01/28/05 12:49 PM (19 years, 1 month ago)

PESA is said to have the most potency of all cubes, but the difference is miniscule.


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Re: Greatest Potency? [Re: blissedout]
    #3693510 - 01/28/05 12:50 PM (19 years, 1 month ago)

It seems like the question you should be asking is which growing method and substrate recipe produces the most potent cubensis.


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Re: Greatest Potency? [Re: blissedout]
    #3693515 - 01/28/05 12:51 PM (19 years, 1 month ago)

just with cubes

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Re: Greatest Potency? [Re: InnerBeing]
    #3693521 - 01/28/05 12:52 PM (19 years, 1 month ago)

Yes, it is. I would say poo produces the highest potency. Wouldn't you?


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Re: Greatest Potency? [Re: blissedout]
    #3693533 - 01/28/05 12:54 PM (19 years, 1 month ago)

I have no experience in working with other growing mediums besides BRF so I cannot comment from personal experience, however, the anecdotal evidence of others seems to point at poop. Compost seems to be one of the better growing mediums out there. Again...no personal experience on the matter.


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Re: Greatest Potency? [Re: InnerBeing]
    #3693540 - 01/28/05 12:55 PM (19 years, 1 month ago)

Yeah, I haven't used anything except brf, either. I am basing my knowledge on what others have said.


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Re: Greatest Potency? [Re: blissedout]
    #3693543 - 01/28/05 12:55 PM (19 years, 1 month ago)

I always get good potency from poo and birdseed and i use straw to get the size.


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Re: Greatest Potency? [Re: blissedout]
    #3693547 - 01/28/05 12:56 PM (19 years, 1 month ago)

Besides looking through the FAQs and searching on potency will give you allot of reading material and anecdotal evidence on potency.


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Re: Greatest Potency? [Re: InnerBeing]
    #3693572 - 01/28/05 01:01 PM (19 years, 1 month ago)

my poop is pretty potent..... smelling





sorry couldn't resist that


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Re: Greatest Potency? [Re: Damn_Skippy]
    #3693582 - 01/28/05 01:04 PM (19 years, 1 month ago)

Not poop! Like what strains of cubes seem to have more potency! So far I here PESA has good potency. Any other strains?

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Re: Greatest Potency? [Re: p4kSouL]
    #3693595 - 01/28/05 01:10 PM (19 years, 1 month ago)

I don't think that you would notice a large difference from strain to strain and any experiments that have been done seem to be inconclusive. The greatest possible difference in effect of cubensis is likely placebo, but I will be doing my own unscientific ingestions and I would be happy to share the results with you when they become available. However, any results would be awfully subjective, and wouldn't prove anything one way or the other.


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Re: Greatest Potency? [Re: p4kSouL]
    #3693599 - 01/28/05 01:12 PM (19 years, 1 month ago)

This is only my 3rd (maybe 4th) post, but I've been sittin back for about a month just searchin and readin about all things shroomy :mushroom2:  Seems to me(per searched posts) that PRs are a pretty strong strain, as well as seeming a little forgiving for the novice like me...  I ordered these yesterday, as well as some classic GTs... People on here don't lie, the search function is a shroomy dream come true  :grin:


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Re: Greatest Potency? [Re: NeedMoreSleep]
    #3693602 - 01/28/05 01:13 PM (19 years, 1 month ago)

I would have to say that Golden Teachers are potent and PESA just from what I have tried.


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Re: Greatest Potency? [Re: blissedout]
    #3693607 - 01/28/05 01:15 PM (19 years, 1 month ago)

Pesa, and Golden Teacher. Thats at least what i heard.


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Re: Greatest Potency? [Re: p4kSouL]
    #3693615 - 01/28/05 01:17 PM (19 years, 1 month ago)

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p4kSouL said:
Not poop! Like what strains of cubes seem to have more potency! So far I here PESA has good potency. Any other strains?




They all have about the same. But using poo will make them all more potent.


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Re: Greatest Potency? [Re: godfann1]
    #3693643 - 01/28/05 01:28 PM (19 years, 1 month ago)

First of all it varies from person to person, regardless of what the census says. If you're talking about P.cubes, then like I said, it varies a lot. A foaf get great visuals off GT's whereas All I ever get is a nice bod. trip.

But if you're talking about overall, then Pan Cyans Own, those and pan. trops.

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Re: Greatest Potency? [Re: IGnosticAbhorI]
    #3693651 - 01/28/05 01:31 PM (19 years, 1 month ago)

Hey god,(lol), poo doesn't make them produce more pysiloben, it just has more nutes, meaning lots and lots of mushies compared to WBS, it does seem rather logical that they'd be more potent, but i've had several occasions where i've had the same strain from poo and from wbs, nothing varied except for quanity. More nutes=more mushies and poo is Full of em. But that's just from my exp. an my .o2

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Re: Greatest Potency? [Re: IGnosticAbhorI]
    #3693737 - 01/28/05 02:00 PM (19 years, 1 month ago)

Im not a pro yet lol but i just always noticed that when i do them on poo they seem stronger i may be wrong

And by the way Gnostic you have the best avatar on here lol :thumbup:


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Re: Greatest Potency? [Re: InnerBeing]
    #3693766 - 01/28/05 02:09 PM (19 years, 1 month ago)

Mushrooms from the same casing can vary in potency 400%. That means that some mushrooms are HALF as potent as averege and some are TWICE as potent. Just cause someone tripped harder of a certain stain doesn't mean shit.

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Re: Greatest Potency? [Re: p4kSouL]
    #3693784 - 01/28/05 02:16 PM (19 years, 1 month ago)

Ow man this question comes here every day.. :frown:


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Re: Greatest Potency? [Re: MushroomFriend]
    #3694693 - 01/28/05 05:56 PM (19 years, 1 month ago)

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MushroomFriend said:
Ow man this question comes here every day.. :frown:




Yes, but not every day someone with less than 10 posts uses the search button.

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NeedMoreSleep said:
This is only my 3rd (maybe 4th) post, but I've been sittin back for about a month just searchin and readin about all things shroomy Seems to me(per searched posts) that PRs are a pretty strong strain, as well as seeming a little forgiving for the novice like me... I ordered these yesterday, as well as some classic GTs... People on here don't lie, the search function is a shroomy dream come true





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Re: Greatest Potency? [Re: metasin]
    #3694756 - 01/28/05 06:07 PM (19 years, 1 month ago)

Yes, this question seems to come up a lot. And the answer alomst always is that they are all pretty much the same. But what is the fastest growing strain?

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Re: Greatest Potency? [Re: RevMax]
    #3694860 - 01/28/05 06:25 PM (19 years, 1 month ago)

Let's say that a certain strain has a 10% higher potency, and you could prove it.

1. Everyone would be growing it, so the question would stop coming up.
2. 3 grams would act like 3.3 grams. Big deal. It's easy to eat an extra .3 grams. JMO


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Re: Greatest Potency? [Re: p4kSouL]
    #3694889 - 01/28/05 06:31 PM (19 years, 1 month ago)

:lol: :thumbup:

He is right, there is SO MUCH info here already available... But sometimes the subject is hard to find then I ask even im sure its been asked a 1000 times...


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Re: Greatest Potency? [Re: MushroomFriend]
    #3695293 - 01/28/05 07:53 PM (19 years, 1 month ago)

So far I've found that Pubensis is the most potent.JK


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Re: Greatest Potency? [Re: p4kSouL]
    #3696961 - 01/29/05 04:30 AM (19 years, 1 month ago)

:grin:


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Re: Greatest Potency? [Re: MushroomFriend]
    #3698249 - 01/29/05 12:16 PM (19 years, 1 month ago)

Z's and Amazons have been my favorite trips.

Of a dozen cubie species so far the only trips that havnt been pleasing is Brazils. Not even that it wasnt pleasing..it was just very in control and not many visuals. Happened a number of times to a few people. inexperienced users are fine with the brazils though...everyones just happy to trip... GT varied...sometimes some people liked them but there were a few minor "disapointments" Every mushroom varies though even on the same casing...and especially among different substrains so others will have different results then me.


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Re: Greatest Potency? [Re: MushroomFriend]
    #3698263 - 01/29/05 12:19 PM (19 years, 1 month ago)

pan cyans have been known to be the most potent. 1 gram can produce a good trip. athough i have never tried them myself.

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Re: Greatest Potency? [Re: dressel11]
    #3698305 - 01/29/05 12:29 PM (19 years, 1 month ago)

Honestly the most potent cubie I had was the equador strain....holy shit

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Re: Greatest Potency? [Re: doop04]
    #3698346 - 01/29/05 12:40 PM (19 years, 1 month ago)

The question was:

Which strain has the greatest potency?


The answers from this thread:

  • PESA is said to have the most potency of all cubes
  • PRs are a pretty strong strain
  • Golden Teachers are potent and PESA
  • Pesa, and Golden Teacher
  • Amazons have been my favorite trip
  • GT varied...
  • most potent cubie I had was the equador strain


I mean, people, don't you see where this runs towards?

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Re: Greatest Potency? [Re: Anno]
    #3698368 - 01/29/05 12:44 PM (19 years, 1 month ago)

It all depends on the conditions/ substrate they grow in??

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Re: Greatest Potency? [Re: Anno]
    #3698372 - 01/29/05 12:45 PM (19 years, 1 month ago)

People you have to try the equador....im tellin ya

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Re: Greatest Potency? [Re: p4kSouL]
    #3698378 - 01/29/05 12:46 PM (19 years, 1 month ago)

i bet a quick search would find over a hundred threads on this in the past six months and a least a dozen varieties that are said to be most potent. such a worthless question.

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Re: Greatest Potency? [Re: doop04]
    #3698383 - 01/29/05 12:47 PM (19 years, 1 month ago)

Also if ur a newb most thailand strains are almost completely contam resistance....still be careful

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Re: Greatest Potency? [Re: doop04]
    #3698399 - 01/29/05 12:52 PM (19 years, 1 month ago)

well really the pan's are but they are a little harder to cultivate than cubes. I wanna get into some soon  :tongue:

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Re: Greatest Potency? [Re: p4kSouL]
    #3698400 - 01/29/05 12:52 PM (19 years, 1 month ago)

millet is said to produce the highest potency(by blue meanie who knows his actives) my opinion..its all so damn close its really pointless even disgussin it...you should be looking for growing characteristics not potency...if you want the super cubensis you want burma...it fights and kills contams(I'm documenting this) and is the most aggressive pinning cube I have ever seen...not to mention its beautiful fruits

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Re: Greatest Potency? [Re: Anno]
    #3698533 - 01/29/05 01:29 PM (19 years, 1 month ago)

Quote:

Anno said:
The question was:

Which strain has the greatest potency?


The answers from this thread:

  • PESA is said to have the most potency of all cubes
  • PRs are a pretty strong strain
  • Golden Teachers are potent and PESA
  • Pesa, and Golden Teacher
  • Amazons have been my favorite trip
  • GT varied...
  • most potent cubie I had was the equador strain


I mean, people, don't you see where this runs towards?




That all strains vary in similar ways including potency?


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Re: Greatest Potency? [Re: doop04]
    #3699044 - 01/29/05 04:13 PM (19 years, 1 month ago)

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Also if ur a newb most thailand strains are almost completely contam resistance....still be careful




This is WAy WAY WAYYYYY!!! more important then potency. What does it matter how potent the strain is if your grow succumbs to contams. This is what I was trying to point out in my last post.


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Re: Greatest Potency? [Re: joesmithjoe]
    #3699109 - 01/29/05 04:44 PM (19 years, 1 month ago)

Well, if you know what you're doing then contams shouldn't matter and therefore you could look at the big picture. =)

Otherwise, go with something proven to be more contam resistant....but i've never heard of anyone doing scientific tests on EVERY P. Cube strain and then saying which is best...Everyone has different environemtal conditions, therefore saying which is better with so many variables is almost impossiable....but w/e..just my .02....Good luck =)

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Re: Greatest Potency? [Re: IGnosticAbhorI]
    #3700437 - 01/29/05 11:19 PM (19 years, 1 month ago)

There is no BEST. There is differences that will make there be a BEST for you. It just wont be the same as everyone elses. Try out the strains people suggested and see what you think of them...


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Re: Greatest Potency? [Re: scatmanrav]
    #3700472 - 01/29/05 11:32 PM (19 years, 1 month ago)

That's what i'm indirectly saying inbetween the lines...=)

Everyone has different environemtal conditions, therefore saying which is better with so many variables is almost impossiable
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There is no BEST. There is differences that will make there be a BEST for you. It just wont be the same as everyone elses. Try out the strains people suggested and see what you think of them...
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Re: Greatest Potency? [Re: scatmanrav]
    #3701416 - 01/30/05 06:45 AM (19 years, 1 month ago)

I turely believe burma is the best man...the things I've seen it do it never cease to amaze me....the other strains seem weak in comparison

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Re: Greatest Potency? [Re: Iamthewalrus]
    #3702795 - 01/30/05 03:33 PM (19 years, 1 month ago)

I'll be sure to try the strain out :smile:


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Re: Greatest Potency? [Re: scatmanrav]
    #3702969 - 01/30/05 04:23 PM (19 years, 1 month ago)

Grow them all and make a salad...


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Re: Greatest Potency? [Re: LaughingJim]
    #3781620 - 02/14/05 11:56 PM (19 years, 1 month ago)

A related question, do certain strains actually elicit various effects (i.e. colors, body trips, etc.) or is this dependent on the psilocybin/psilocin content?

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