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Offlinekali
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SOMA
    #369197 - 08/09/01 05:58 AM (22 years, 3 months ago)

I came across a book that identifies Soma as a vine named Sarcostema Viminalis. Is anyone aware of any evidence that backs this claim up? Is it psychoactive? Does Wassons' proposal of Amantia Muscaria have a more solid grounding?



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Re: SOMA [Re: kali]
    #369226 - 08/09/01 08:16 AM (22 years, 3 months ago)

Did you also read Mushrooms&Mankind by James Arthur?
You can find it here http://www.bluehoney.org/Mankind.htm



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Re: SOMA [Re: kali]
    #369514 - 08/09/01 09:09 PM (22 years, 3 months ago)

i think in the rig-veda, sorry im a poor scholar, soma is described as being rootless..which causes some people to believe it is a mushroom, also despite assertions that amanita muscaria is unknown in india, i have seen literally fields of them in the mountains of northern india, huge bastards, no i didnt eat any.
i wonder if soma is actually a state of mind, and there are a variety of substances that can get you into this state, so there is no one answer to the question.



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Re: SOMA [Re: mr crisper]
    #369563 - 08/09/01 10:56 PM (22 years, 3 months ago)

read the brave new world, by aldous huxley and you'll see what this soma shit is all about.
i bet 50g of J that little or none of these people who talk about soma know what they're talking about...
p.s.: read everything huxley wrote.
p.p.s.: read more than huxley. read everything.

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Re: SOMA [Re: felixhigh]
    #369703 - 08/10/01 06:28 AM (22 years, 3 months ago)

Different soma.

I thought the Avesta (Iranian scriptures) described soma/haoma as being a leaved plant? Why are people so sure that it was a mushroom? Another candidate might be Peganum Harmala.

Ceramic bowls dated to about the second millenium BC, discovered in the Kara Kum desert of Turkmenistan, were found to contain traces of reefer and Ephedra. Another site yeilded vessels that once contained Ephedra and poppy pollen, dated to the late second millenium...maybe soma/haoma was a composite substance?

Then there's mang, another (different) substance used by the pre-Islamic Iranians...what the fuck was this stuff?



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