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Texas Seeks Death for Mom Accused of Drowning Kids
    #369073 - 08/09/01 12:08 AM (15 years, 3 months ago)

http://dailynews.yahoo.com/h/nm/20010808/ts/crime_mother_plea_dc.html
I don't think this woman should be put to death for what she did, given the known circumstances.

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Re: Texas Seeks Death for Mom Accused of Drowning Kids [Re: zetek]
    #369075 - 08/09/01 12:10 AM (15 years, 3 months ago)

No sympathy here

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Re: Texas Seeks Death for Mom Accused of Drowning Kids [Re: dimitri211]
    #369081 - 08/09/01 12:20 AM (15 years, 3 months ago)

Well, I hope you are never afflicted with the disease of depression. I can speak from experience that it is awful.

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Re: Texas Seeks Death for Mom Accused of Drowning Kids [Re: zetek]
    #369084 - 08/09/01 12:22 AM (15 years, 3 months ago)

I don't believe anyone should be put to death by the state. It sends a mixed message to would be murderers, and it's immoral. Anyone who commits murder has a mental problem. They need psychiatric help, not punishment.

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Re: Texas Seeks Death for Mom Accused of Drowning Kids [Re: zetek]
    #369115 - 08/09/01 02:15 AM (15 years, 3 months ago)

did you expect any less they seek the death penelty on jay walking.



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Re: Texas Seeks Death for Mom Accused of Drowning Kids [Re: zetek]
    #369225 - 08/09/01 10:06 AM (15 years, 3 months ago)

In reply to:

Well, I hope you are never afflicted with the disease of depression. I can speak from experience that it is awful.




Having been diagnost manic depression when i was 12 (i know.. bad grammer.. i'm tired) I can tell you that it is awful... however, I've never killed anyone. Infact I know a lot of awful damn depressed ppl who never killed anyone other then possible themselves. Its hardly an excuse.

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Re: Texas Seeks Death for Mom Accused of Drowning Kids [Re: Kriz]
    #369232 - 08/09/01 10:35 AM (15 years, 3 months ago)

Its not JUST depression, its post-partum depression, where this type of thing, in extreme ppd, DOES happen. There are alot of Americans with depression and they're not killing people. I don't condone ANY killing by anyone, and especially not in this case. I just wonder where the line is drawn.... according to Claude Rifat, no one has free will because everything we do and feel is just a reflection on the biochemistry of the CNS. I know that argument would just be chipping the tip of the iceberg on a whole nother conversation, but it seems that through psychology and science, people are trying to become blameless.

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Re: Texas Seeks Death for Mom Accused of Drowning Kids [Re: zetek]
    #369250 - 08/09/01 11:10 AM (15 years, 3 months ago)

Well, it is probably a moot point anyway. I doubt she will even be found mentally fit to stand trial. But then again, it is Texas.

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Re: Texas Seeks Death for Mom Accused of Drowning Kids [Re: Kriz]
    #369256 - 08/09/01 11:19 AM (15 years, 3 months ago)

"Having been diagnost manic depression when i was 12 (i know.. bad grammer.. i'm tired) I can tell you that it is awful... however, I've never killed anyone. Infact I know a lot of awful damn depressed ppl who never killed anyone other then possible themselves. Its hardly an excuse"

So are you saying that depressed people who throw themselves off buildings are doing it because they just feel like a quick 10 storey fall? Surely you must appreciate that there are various levels of depression, and you might not have experienced the depths of depression that others face. Not everyone who is diagnosed as depressed plumbs the ultimate depths of depression. Depression does result in suicides and in murders. To say that it doesn't is to relegate depression into the realm of a minor inconvenience.

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Re: Texas Seeks Death for Mom Accused of Drowning Kids [Re: Kriz]
    #369258 - 08/09/01 11:30 AM (15 years, 3 months ago)

Some symptoms of Post-Partum Psychosis:

?Hallucinations-auditory or visual command
?Intrusive repetitive thoughts of harming or killing baby or self
?Severe insomnia
?Severe anxiety
?Severe depression
?Aggitation
?Fear of being alone
?Hostility
?Panic attacks
?Confusion
?Loss of hope
?Adrenaline surges
?Obsessive behavior
?Difficulty making decisions
?Increased alchohol consumption or drug use
?Fatigue or exhaustion
?Fantasies of disaster or bizarre fears
?Over or under concern for baby
?Change of appetite-under or over indulgance
?Inability to care for baby
?Lack of sexual interest
?Memory loss
?Irrational behavior
?Hostility
?Unexplainable crying
?Desire to leave-feelings of being trapped
?Compulsive behavior
?Rapid mood swings


Another sad thing about this case is the lack of support the woman got from her husband. She was having problems long before the fifth child, but he just kept knockin' her up.



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Re: Texas Seeks Death for Mom Accused of Drowning Kids [Re: zetek]
    #369330 - 08/09/01 04:57 PM (15 years, 3 months ago)

Mabey her kids didn't listen, mabey they deserved it.

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Re: Texas Seeks Death for Mom Accused of Drowning Kids [Re: zetek]
    #377503 - 08/24/01 03:03 AM (15 years, 3 months ago)

personally, i think almost any outcome will end up in dissatisfaction on alot of people. Something so extreme and "unique" as this crime is a hard thing to deal with. If they put her to death, its kind of like settling the score, an eye for an eye.... but yea, it does send a mixed message to people. It says "Don't murder.... or we'll murder you." But then again, at the same time, if they stick her in the slammer it will say "you can kill, if you can live with the consequences".... and even still, if they just stick her in the looney bin for life, it says that if you have a mental affliction you have an excuse. I know these aren't exact concepts, but its just the general idea.

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Re: Texas Seeks Death for Mom Accused of Drowning Kids [Re: zetek]
    #378616 - 08/25/01 05:14 PM (15 years, 3 months ago)

i can think of a few times ive felt those same symptoms, and im a man. maybe it was the mushrooms i ate...

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Re: Texas Seeks Death for Mom Accused of Drowning Kids [Re: capncracker]
    #378643 - 08/25/01 06:27 PM (15 years, 3 months ago)

Good observation. Think how awful it would be to be on a really bad trip for months on end...



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Re: Texas Seeks Death for Mom Accused of Drowning Kids [Re: Kriz]
    #378661 - 08/25/01 07:10 PM (15 years, 3 months ago)

Well, I hope you are never afflicted with the disease of depression:

I was diagnost with depression 3 years ago and no matter what I would never use it as an excuse to kill a gift from god

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Re: Texas Seeks Death for Mom Accused of Drowning Kids [Re: dimitri211]
    #379095 - 08/26/01 11:26 AM (15 years, 3 months ago)

That has to be one of the most intelligent post i've seen on this board in a long time. Depression sucks and i wouldn't wish it on anyone but i would never use it as an excuse.

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Re: Texas Seeks Death for Mom Accused of Drowning Kids [Re: dimitri211]
    #379379 - 08/26/01 06:30 PM (15 years, 3 months ago)

I agree, in that I also know how awful this disease can be. And I think it is obvious that this woman was beyond even the most severe depths of Major Depression; she was psychotic. You don't believe this woman killed her children because she was rational and chose to do it, do you? The bitch in S. Carolina that ran the car with her kids in it into a lake knew what she was doing. This woman didn't and now has to live with this horror the rest of her life. If anything, her asshole husband is guilty of some form of neglect; he knew what kind of condition she was in.



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