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OfflineDEATH666
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peyote shrooms?
    #3690241 - 01/27/05 09:23 PM (11 years, 10 months ago)

Someone told me that there where shrooms that grow in florida that have some of the same stuff in them that peyote does,is this tru? :confused:


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Re: peyote shrooms? [Re: DEATH666]
    #3690345 - 01/27/05 09:45 PM (11 years, 10 months ago)

Shrooms have psilocybin, psilocin, and some have baeocystin and norbaeocystin.

The active chemical in peyote is mescaline.


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Re: peyote shrooms? [Re: DEATH666]
    #3690351 - 01/27/05 09:47 PM (11 years, 10 months ago)

No known mushrooms have significant amounts of mescaline. In other words, no, it's not true.

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Re: peyote shrooms? [Re: DEATH666]
    #3690373 - 01/27/05 09:51 PM (11 years, 10 months ago)

Hmmm.....


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Re: peyote shrooms? [Re: ToxicMan]
    #3690451 - 01/27/05 10:04 PM (11 years, 10 months ago)

What do u mean by significant?


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Re: peyote shrooms? [Re: sui]
    #3690600 - 01/27/05 10:26 PM (11 years, 10 months ago)

Measurable. Having studied chemistry a bit I'd be astonished if some mushrooms didn't have at least a few molecules. There might even be some that have a couple micrograms. Of course, the normal dosage of mescaline is on the order of 350,000 micrograms, so if there were only 1 or 2 it would be insignificant.

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Re: peyote shrooms? [Re: DEATH666]
    #3690639 - 01/27/05 10:33 PM (11 years, 10 months ago)

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DEATH666 said:
Someone told me that there where shrooms that grow in florida that have some of the same stuff in them that peyote does,is this tru? :confused:



Someone told me this was the stupidest question in a long time. I believe him


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Re: peyote shrooms? [Re: tahoe]
    #3690671 - 01/27/05 10:37 PM (11 years, 10 months ago)

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tahoe said:
Quote:

DEATH666 said:
Someone told me that there where shrooms that grow in florida that have some of the same stuff in them that peyote does,is this tru? :confused:



Someone told me this was the stupidest question in a long time.




Unfortunately, I'd have to agree with ya on that one.


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Re: peyote shrooms? [Re: Gumby]
    #3690686 - 01/27/05 10:38 PM (11 years, 10 months ago)

:lol:

definitely one of the top 5 dumbest questions, and shows how the shroomery intelligence is degrading more and more to the 15 year olds :frown:


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Re: peyote shrooms? [Re: Psilygirl]
    #3690755 - 01/27/05 10:51 PM (11 years, 10 months ago)

Fortunately we are here to clear these things up.


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Re: peyote shrooms? [Re: shroomydan]
    #3691183 - 01/27/05 11:42 PM (11 years, 10 months ago)

and we thank you eternally for it  :bow:


:thumbup:  keep up the good work, didnt mean to sound so negative


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Re: peyote shrooms? [Re: Psilygirl]
    #3694198 - 01/28/05 06:14 PM (11 years, 10 months ago)

I haved seen in some books though is spiderwebs that contain LSD, mescaline and other stimulants. I didn't read too much in the other but the spiderweb with LSD only had .02 micrograms, and a decent hit is 100 micrograms.


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Re: peyote shrooms? [Re: dukeofgonzo]
    #3694542 - 01/28/05 07:31 PM (11 years, 10 months ago)

I wonder if there's any spiders with hallucinogenic venom :eek:


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Re: peyote shrooms? [Re: dukeofgonzo]
    #3694548 - 01/28/05 07:32 PM (11 years, 10 months ago)

:lol:

you're out of it dude. the fact you made up fake figures to support your false claim is amusing though.

I've heard of people giving spiders drugs and them spinning strange webs, but that's it.  I don't even know if it's true, how the hell do you dose a spider?  you probably misread the same thing and thought it said the webs contained the drugs. 

don't eat the spiderwebs kids.

and don't start any more stupid drug rumours, there are plenty out there already...

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Re: peyote shrooms? [Re: spores]
    #3695257 - 01/28/05 09:43 PM (11 years, 10 months ago)

"how the hell do you dose a spider?"

First you dose a fly, then you feed it to the spider.

Here's a link to pictures of the webs.
http://www.google.com/url?sa=U&start=1&q=http://www.cannabis.net/weblife.html&e=8092


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Re: peyote shrooms? [Re: shroomydan]
    #3695750 - 01/28/05 11:52 PM (11 years, 10 months ago)

The spiders were fed drops of lsd in a liquid solution. There are several published papers on this subject matter,

Here are a few references to such research concerning spiders. By the way, the spiders who were given dosages of shrooms prefomed much bettrer in building their webs geometrically and geodesically than those who were administered with LSD and or mescaline.


Witt, Peter. 1960a. `Tangled web' helps drug testing. Medical News vol. 6(16):2.
A scientific report on the administration of psilocybin to a spider and the spiders web-building abilities while under the influence of psilocybin. For related information see Witt (1960b and Bazant? (1965).

DeWitt, Peter. 1960b. A biological test method for psychotropic drugs based on the web-building behavior of spiders. National Medicinal Chemical Symposium. 7Th session. Rhode Island. June 20-22. Ms.
For related data see Bazant? (1965).

Bazante, G. 1965. A male spider produces a different net structure after being fed psilocybin. For related research see Witt(1960a, 1960b).Bazant?, Gabrielle. 1965. Un probl?me ?claircir. Revue de Mycologia vol. 30:116.

In French.


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And biochemists who admibnister these dosages know how to give a proper medical dosage to a spider and a human as well.


Edited by mjshroomer (02/02/05 11:53 AM)


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Re: peyote shrooms? [Re: mjshroomer]
    #3717022 - 02/02/05 02:27 AM (11 years, 10 months ago)

The period between 15 and 17 is a very accumulative period in regards to knowledge.


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Re: peyote shrooms? [Re: mjshroomer]
    #3724024 - 02/03/05 11:28 AM (11 years, 10 months ago)

For those interested, this came from an early 70s Time/Life book series called Nature Library, Volume- Animal Behavior





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Re: peyote shrooms? [Re: Aquaman]
    #3727236 - 02/03/05 10:59 PM (11 years, 9 months ago)

interesting, thanks for posting that.

I like the quote at the end, 'LYSERGIC ACID INDUCES ACUTE CONCENTRATION. THE SPIDER ZEALOUSLY WEAVES A PERFECT WEB, GREATLY IMPROVING ON NATURE' :lol: good shit

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Re: peyote shrooms? [Re: spores]
    #3727376 - 02/03/05 11:25 PM (11 years, 9 months ago)

Actually DH, the spider performed horribly under the influence of LSD. The ones who were given mushrooms made very beautiful geodesical shaped webs. Much more together than the ones who were administered LSD or mescaline or the4 four other drugs noted in the article above. That comment about the LSD is not a true statement and was not written by P Dr. DeWitt but by the editors of the article and the puiblication it appeared.

Also, not that the image of the spider and the syringe does not say that that image is LSD being given to the spidr, although it probabnly was. I would have to lok up the articles in my files.

It is misleading in its content by the statement at the bottom of the page.

\And that particular study did not use psilocybine or mescaline.

I would also liek to point out that some spiders weave a good web and some piders weave shitty webs.. Doesn't matter if they are druggted or not.

mj

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