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MJ I NEED YOU! (cmon mr. allen)
    #3689968 - 01/27/05 08:07 PM (12 years, 1 month ago)

Alright, here's the thing. I just got some kratom, very good stuff. Here's my problem: I'm on probation and get random drug tests. Now I really see no reason why any chemical in kratom would have these morphine metabolites. I'm not some stupid kid that just see's legal herbs and decides, oh that plant will fuck me up, lets do it. Believe it or not I know my shit and I really don't see how this false positive would be possible. John, if you read this, please give me some sources or some reasoning behind your post in another thread. I want to know for sure if kratom does throw up a false positive, and I'd also love to know why if this is true.


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Re: MJ I NEED YOU! (cmon mr. allen) [Re: Dark_Raider]
    #3690010 - 01/27/05 08:16 PM (12 years, 1 month ago)

advil will give you a false positive for marijuana, google holds the answers


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Re: MJ I NEED YOU! (cmon mr. allen) [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #3690044 - 01/27/05 08:25 PM (12 years, 1 month ago)

Trust me, I've googled it.


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Re: MJ I NEED YOU! (cmon mr. allen) [Re: Dark_Raider]
    #3690171 - 01/27/05 09:07 PM (12 years, 1 month ago)

Nope, Kratom itself should not give you any false positives, because it is a different chemical affecting your body. It may have similar pharmacological effects to various opiates, but there is no reason why it would produce the same metabolite from a different chemical.

As to the ibuprofin causing a false positive, I read about that as well. Most labs have since claimed that they have new testing procedures to get around that, so I would be fairly surprised if it came back with a false positive. (Note the FAIRLY surprised).


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Re: MJ I NEED YOU! (cmon mr. allen) [Re: Dark_Raider]
    #3690183 - 01/27/05 09:10 PM (12 years, 1 month ago)

You should be fine dude, the alkaloids in kratom in no way resemble classic opiates. Note: you SHOULD be fine.


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Re: MJ I NEED YOU! (cmon mr. allen) [Re: Dark_Raider]
    #3690195 - 01/27/05 09:12 PM (12 years, 1 month ago)

I think MJShroomer's claims as to Kratom causing false positives result in the fact that he's speaking ex cathedra. There is no real sound chemical explanation for this claim. Please see this post for a logical and step by step refutation for a claim that has yet provided no evidence for it.
Please refer to this thread for a lengthy explanation as to why this is not true:

this thread


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Re: MJ I NEED YOU! (cmon mr. allen) [Re: Dark_Raider]
    #3692141 - 01/28/05 04:10 AM (12 years, 1 month ago)

Quote:

I'm on probation and get random drug tests. Now I really see no reason why any chemical in kratom would have these morphine metabolites. I'm not some stupid kid that just see's legal herbs and decides, oh that plant will fuck me up, lets do it. Believe it or not I know my shit and I really don't see how this false positive would be possible.




As someone who has never been in jail, Your comments about your probation tells me you are willing to risk all to do kratom.

That is not wise.

Whether kratom shows up in a drug test is mute.

If you do not want to go back to jail then you should not be doing any drugs.

mj and have a shroomy day.


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Re: MJ I NEED YOU! (cmon mr. allen) [Re: neuro]
    #3692178 - 01/28/05 04:25 AM (12 years, 1 month ago)

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neuro said:
Please refer to this thread for a lengthy explanation as to why this is not true:

this thread


That was a killer good read :thumbup: and ended up being totally useful and relevent to a friend of mine who had questions about another opiate and drug testing...  I hope you don't mind, I quoted you rather than refactoring your words.  :smile:


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Re: MJ I NEED YOU! (cmon mr. allen) [Re: delta9]
    #3692557 - 01/28/05 09:35 AM (12 years, 1 month ago)

whatever you need to do is fine.


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Re: MJ I NEED YOU! (cmon mr. allen) [Re: mjshroomer]
    #3695179 - 01/28/05 09:24 PM (12 years, 1 month ago)

Ahh, thank you mj for giving me no information. I guess it's better than trying to make up some non existent source, or telling everybody that you really had no clue, you were just spouting off bullshit.


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Re: MJ I NEED YOU! (cmon mr. allen) [Re: Dark_Raider]
    #3695352 - 01/28/05 10:09 PM (12 years, 1 month ago)

I would check Erowid.com for info or ask dr shulgin online.


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Re: MJ I NEED YOU! (cmon mr. allen) [Re: World Spirit]
    #3704066 - 01/30/05 09:54 PM (12 years, 1 month ago)

I never really understood why drugs are so important in someones life that they would risk going back to jail for. (my friends did indeed go to jail one of them went back twice for failing a drug test). U should try it and if u don't post anymore we'll just figure u went to jail.


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Re: MJ I NEED YOU! (cmon mr. allen) [Re: GNIOM1498]
    #3704771 - 01/31/05 12:09 AM (12 years, 1 month ago)

If you believe in something enough deprivation of liberty/freedom isn't going to stand in your way.

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