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InvisibleKingOftheThing
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ok right wingers, explain this...
    #3686088 - 01/27/05 12:09 AM (12 years, 5 months ago)

george bush spending OUR tax dollars to pay conservative assholes in the media to support his policies...i mean come on..this is the second person they have paid off, its fucking govt propoganda...grrrrr this fucking administration makes me sick, yuck blech puke.... anyone who supports this man is ***CenSoRed*** (sorry i cant say naughty things in this forum)

http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=4467259&sourceCode=RSS
http://news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&am...hadministration

an evil dictator has hijacked us


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Re: ok right wingers, explain this... [Re: KingOftheThing]
    #3686139 - 01/27/05 12:17 AM (12 years, 5 months ago)

I've heard about this before. The best argument the right-wingers were able to give was "Clinton did it too."


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Re: ok right wingers, explain this... [Re: KingOftheThing]
    #3686151 - 01/27/05 12:18 AM (12 years, 5 months ago)

Quote:

"I should have disclosed a government contract when I later wrote about the Bush marriage initiative. I would have, if I had remembered it. My apologies to my readers."




LOL, i needed a good laugh. Yeah its pretty dispicable, but this stuff has been going on for decades with both parties and everyone knows about it.

edit: of course, just because it has been going on for a long time doesn't make it right but people act as if this is new in an attempt to further their political arguments...which is also a strategy as old as time itself.


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Re: ok right wingers, explain this... [Re: Paou]
    #3686155 - 01/27/05 12:18 AM (12 years, 5 months ago)

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Paou said:
I've heard about this before. The best argument the right-wingers were able to give was "Clinton did it too."



And both presidents were wrong to do it.


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Re: ok right wingers, explain this... [Re: z@z.com]
    #3686253 - 01/27/05 12:33 AM (12 years, 5 months ago)

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z@z.com said:
Quote:

Paou said:
I've heard about this before. The best argument the right-wingers were able to give was "Clinton did it too."



And both presidents were wrong to do it.



Indeed.


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Re: ok right wingers, explain this... [Re: KingOftheThing]
    #3686607 - 01/27/05 01:18 AM (12 years, 5 months ago)

Great observation and thanks for posting the info.

Not really debate material however, as I doubt many right-wingers are going to be jumping at the chance to try and defend this action.


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Re: ok right wingers, explain this... [Re: 13eetleJuice]
    #3686752 - 01/27/05 01:45 AM (12 years, 5 months ago)

i'm right wing and i also saw this today, and all i can say is "my bad". i'm kinda curious where he thought he could go with all this.


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Re: ok right wingers, explain this... [Re: KingOftheThing]
    #3688215 - 01/27/05 01:18 PM (12 years, 5 months ago)

Hey, no shit, bush is an asshole. Would Kerry have been better? WOuld he have been worse? Why vote for something worse?

On a related note, I've just patented an anal tampon! PM me for purchasing options.


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Re: ok right wingers, explain this... [Re: KingOftheThing]
    #3688477 - 01/27/05 02:45 PM (12 years, 5 months ago)

I'm appauled, you mean to tell me that presidents lie and scheme, the nerve!!


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Re: ok right wingers, explain this... [Re: Innvertigo]
    #3688527 - 01/27/05 02:58 PM (12 years, 5 months ago)

Right wingers would explain it, but it is much easier to pay someone to put a spin on it or cover it up alltogether.


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Re: ok right wingers, explain this... [Re: California]
    #3688551 - 01/27/05 03:06 PM (12 years, 5 months ago)

as do most liberals.


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Re: ok right wingers, explain this... [Re: Innvertigo]
    #3688940 - 01/27/05 04:35 PM (12 years, 5 months ago)

Right wing, Left wing, Middle wing, whatever all politicians are sneaky, lying, thieving, assholes.


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Re: ok right wingers, explain this... [Re: i_rage_against]
    #3689278 - 01/27/05 06:11 PM (12 years, 5 months ago)

Will any one of you please explain to this poor ignorant fool just what is wrong with hiring a professional writer to write something for you explaining your position on something. Please keep in mind the following facts: Maggie Gallagher is not a journalist, she is a columnist, and thus not paid for objectivity but rather subjectivity, i.e. her views. It is the responsibility of the government to explain it's policies to the electorate. This entails the hiring of spokespeople to professionally elucidate their positions. Ms. Gallagher did not in any way write anything that was contrary to the views she already held. The amount of money involved, approximately $20,000, is probably a reasonable fee for the services, and certainly not anything that could be construed as enough to cause her to go against her personal beliefs.

I eagerly await enlightenment.


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Re: ok right wingers, explain this... [Re: i_rage_against]
    #3689630 - 01/27/05 07:17 PM (12 years, 5 months ago)

Quote:

Right wing, Left wing, Middle wing, whatever all successful politicians are sneaky, lying, thieving, assholes.




Fixed it.


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Re: ok right wingers, explain this... [Re: zappaisgod]
    #3689678 - 01/27/05 07:25 PM (12 years, 5 months ago)

Should they be able to use tax dollars to do so?


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Re: ok right wingers, explain this... [Re: Baby_Hitler]
    #3689965 - 01/27/05 08:06 PM (12 years, 5 months ago)

They always have. Speechwriters are paid. Consultants are paid. Press secretaries are paid. Just tell me why Maggie Gallagher is different. William Safire was a speechwriter for Nixon and Agnew. Paid with taxpayer dollars. What is the issue here?


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Re: ok right wingers, explain this... [Re: KingOftheThing]
    #3690123 - 01/27/05 08:51 PM (12 years, 5 months ago)

Were they hiding the fact that they were paid, or did they disclose this fact openly?


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Re: ok right wingers, explain this... [Re: Baby_Hitler]
    #3690198 - 01/27/05 09:12 PM (12 years, 5 months ago)

What was she supposed to disclose? She is not a journalist. She is a columnist. I don't think she changed her opinion for money.


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Re: ok right wingers, explain this... [Re: zappaisgod]
    #3690266 - 01/27/05 09:30 PM (12 years, 5 months ago)

Thats a good point. I was almost caught up in this Bush/evil dictator/conspiracy non-sense. Thanks for bringing me back to reality.


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Re: ok right wingers, explain this... [Re: zappaisgod]
    #3690313 - 01/27/05 09:38 PM (12 years, 5 months ago)

Not she, he.

He should have disclosed that he was paying her.


That I was paying her.


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