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B+ doesn't do shit
    #3685634 - 01/26/05 08:58 PM (19 years, 2 months ago)

Hi guys, I'm a newbie grower. I got some spores from sporesource.com, actually B+ strain. Figuring since I was a newbie that would be the best way to go. Well my shrooms have grown and are still growing. All I want to know is why after eating 2.5 grams of dried B+ shrooms did I not feel a thing. And I am not a regular tripper. The last time I did it was 6 months ago. So I know I don't have a tolerance for it. My roomate also ate 2.5 grams and did nothing to him but made him feel "loose". What the hell is wrong? I NEED HELP!!! I'm not tripping, please help.

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Re: B+ doesn't do shit [Re: Nisstyr]
    #3685646 - 01/26/05 09:00 PM (19 years, 2 months ago)

Also could someone point me out to a really powerful strain with decent yields? And which spore bank should i go through?

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Re: B+ doesn't do shit [Re: Nisstyr]
    #3685657 - 01/26/05 09:02 PM (19 years, 2 months ago)

maybe you didn't dry them cracker dry man cause 2.5 will kick you for a loop

when did you eat last that will have a huge effect

also i find alcohol has an adverse effect

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Re: B+ doesn't do shit [Re: Nisstyr]
    #3685663 - 01/26/05 09:03 PM (19 years, 2 months ago)

potency can vary between flushes, cakes and even individual shrooms, you may also have under dosed

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Re: B+ doesn't do shit [Re: Nisstyr]
    #3685666 - 01/26/05 09:03 PM (19 years, 2 months ago)

Well that's not too cool.

How did you dry your shrooms? Did you use PF tek?

You should have felt something off 2.5 g for sure.


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Re: B+ doesn't do shit [Re: phantasm]
    #3685671 - 01/26/05 09:03 PM (19 years, 2 months ago)

eat at least an eighth dried, man

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Re: B+ doesn't do shit [Re: Nisstyr]
    #3685680 - 01/26/05 09:04 PM (19 years, 2 months ago)

First off, are these 2.5 grams cracker dry and being measured on a good scale? Partially dry shrooms using the old coat hanger scale could be the problem...hehe just kidding.

There were several reports awhile back of people not tripping adequately off moderate B+ doses, almost as if some bunk sub strain was going around. Not very common but I know for a fact this was happening. Definitely something you could have encountered here.

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Re: B+ doesn't do shit [Re: Holydiver]
    #3686065 - 01/26/05 10:04 PM (19 years, 2 months ago)

has anyone every had any stong trips with b+? . This makes me nervous because im growing b+ also.

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Re: B+ doesn't do shit [Re: p4kSouL]
    #3686123 - 01/26/05 10:15 PM (19 years, 2 months ago)

weakness can happen in anything, my mate had 5 dried grams, and said all he felt was a bit of a come up.... oh that was aussie strain btw. Big juicy fruits were weak as piss, but the small fruits were fine? go figure.

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Re: B+ doesn't do shit [Re: JaRRn]
    #3686218 - 01/26/05 10:28 PM (19 years, 2 months ago)

I think I might have found the problem. I was researching B+ a little bit and found that it was more of a body stone type trip not very visual. See I am used to tripping with a really good body buzz and a little bit of visuals. What I want to get are some really good visuals along with a nice body buzz. But, to answer some questions: no coat hanger scale for me, I've got a pretty nice triton digi. I also dried them using a fan over the mushies that were sitting on a screen. They weren't completely dry, BUT I should have gotten more than a tylenol body buzz. Does anybody know about the potency of the B+ strain, more importantly will I get a little bit of visuals. NEED HELP, thanx guys

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Re: B+ doesn't do shit [Re: Nisstyr]
    #3686226 - 01/26/05 10:29 PM (19 years, 2 months ago)

O, and Diver what is GT? Sorry I'm new. hehe

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Re: B+ doesn't do shit [Re: Nisstyr]
    #3686252 - 01/26/05 10:33 PM (19 years, 2 months ago)

golden teacher, and if all else fails eat more


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Re: B+ doesn't do shit [Re: penlight438094]
    #3686426 - 01/26/05 10:53 PM (19 years, 2 months ago)

damn it! why cant b+ be more visual! I thought cube was a cube and strain wasnt a matter for your trip.

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Re: B+ doesn't do shit [Re: p4kSouL]
    #3686651 - 01/26/05 11:25 PM (19 years, 2 months ago)

There are no set differences from strain to strain, each person will vary and some may call other strains more visual when someone else says it isnt. Substrains vary. Substrates vary.

Substrate has alot to do with potency. If you used the PF Tek or certain whole grains you could face potency problems as others have. I would also be willing to bet that those were no where near dry enough. I'd bet they could have still been bendy but kinda hard...at that fan dried point you could of easily had a gram of water in there too. And every experience and mushroom is different.

Dont worry if your growing B+...I have heard dozens of people say its there favorite strain to trip on and very visual...try it for yourselves. Do try other strains though because, contrary to popular belief all cubes arent exactly the same as the others


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Re: B+ doesn't do shit [Re: scatmanrav]
    #3686826 - 01/27/05 12:01 AM (19 years, 2 months ago)

I find b+ to be stronger than Equador.

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Re: B+ doesn't do shit [Re: Nisstyr]
    #3687438 - 01/27/05 03:28 AM (19 years, 2 months ago)

I've been growing B+ for quite some time but my first few attempts with it PF-Tek style I encountered the same diminished potency problems as yourself, Nisstyr. Don't sweat it. Just double or triple the dose. You will have more potent grows in time.

My shrooms are certainly more potent now than when I first started growing. I don't know if I didn't have the substrate mixture right, from the very start or if I didn't keep the temps constant enough, or if I didn't keep the humidity high enough, or if I didn't fan enough or what I might have done those first few times but I can assure you it was not the strain. I have had some very intense trips with B+.


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Re: B+ doesn't do shit [Re: Nisstyr]
    #3687451 - 01/27/05 03:41 AM (19 years, 2 months ago)

When I had B+, I was happy with the potency and the effect, though it's possible they weren't the most visual trips ever. (It's so hard to be objective about that sort of thing.) I usually start out with 4 grams, because of my tolerance. So B+ work, there's no question about that.

As they say, it's possible you got a weak substrain, or something else happened. Have you taken any other drugs in the last 2 weeks?

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Re: B+ doesn't do shit [Re: Nisstyr]
    #3687457 - 01/27/05 03:44 AM (19 years, 2 months ago)

Your inner state also has influence on your trip, dont underestimate this.


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Re: B+ doesn't do shit [Re: MushroomFriend]
    #3687498 - 01/27/05 04:51 AM (19 years, 2 months ago)

I just harvested and tested out B+ tonight. I made tea with 1.5 grams and tripped balls for about 4 hrs. I find that tea is a much more intense trip, but shorter lived than eating them. U should try Tea. I guess I'm still tripping. trip trip trip trip POP


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Re: B+ doesn't do shit [Re: Nisstyr]
    #3687513 - 01/27/05 04:59 AM (19 years, 2 months ago)

Yeah why are you telling ME that?

Use the reply function, I only use mushrooms in tea!


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Re: B+ doesn't do shit [Re: MushroomFriend]
    #3687575 - 01/27/05 06:00 AM (19 years, 2 months ago)

i also have b+, tripped my friend on them last night cause he said he's eatin shrooms 3 or 4 times before and never been able to trip, heh heh, i showed him... my b+ are potent as hell, would def. recommend

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Re: B+ doesn't do shit [Re: Nisstyr]
    #3687587 - 01/27/05 06:14 AM (19 years, 2 months ago)

I dont care really.. :laugh: Reply to the propriate person!


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Re: B+ doesn't do shit [Re: MushroomFriend]
    #3687618 - 01/27/05 06:48 AM (19 years, 2 months ago)

For a better dose, I imagine that you could weigh them wet, going by wet dose... then seporate those into doses.

EG, if 25g wet turns into 2.5g (Totally dry), then it won't matter how dry they actually get, because you still have the same ammount of shrooms... EG, if that 25g was only half dried, it would weigh as 12g, translating into you weighing 2.5g would be only about 1/4 the dose that you really wanted to take.

You can also do that lovely experiment to test the "Larger = less potent" to come up with a happy medium. EG, if you take 25g wet, of small potent shrooms, and that does it for you... and 50g wet of large shrooms is about the same, then you now know what size to pick your fruits, and you will also know that you will need 2x more if larger.

EG, a cake has X potency... lets say X is 100. Theoretically, if you get 100g of shrooms, then you will have 1 potency per 1g of shrooms.
If you get 50g of shrooms, then you have 2 potency per 1g of shrooms, (2x more then the 100g batch.)

That is why I don't like the DOSE calculator. It doesn't know if you grew the shrooms on 500g of substrate, or 5000g of substrate. If you grew on 5000g of substrate, and yeilded the same amount of shrooms, then theoretically those mushrooms would be 10x more potent.

Also, from what I have read, the second and third flush is usually more potent then the first and fourth. as the mycelium is digesting closer to 100% more efficiently then in the beginning, and end, when it begins to run out of food.


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Re: B+ doesn't do shit [Re: LaughingJim]
    #3687620 - 01/27/05 06:51 AM (19 years, 2 months ago)

Remember, it is the slow growing, small oranges that taste the sweetest! Not the big fat fast growing ones!


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Re: B+ doesn't do shit [Re: lois_must_die420]
    #3687622 - 01/27/05 06:51 AM (19 years, 2 months ago)

Quote:

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I find b+ to be stronger than Equador.




I concur.


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Re: B+ doesn't do shit [Re: LaughingJim]
    #3687653 - 01/27/05 07:16 AM (19 years, 2 months ago)

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EG, a cake has X potency... lets say X is 100. Theoretically, if you get 100g of shrooms, then you will have 1 potency per 1g of shrooms.
If you get 50g of shrooms, then you have 2 potency per 1g of shrooms, (2x more then the 100g batch.)

That is why I don't like the DOSE calculator. It doesn't know if you grew the shrooms on 500g of substrate, or 5000g of substrate. If you grew on 5000g of substrate, and yeilded the same amount of shrooms, then theoretically those mushrooms would be 10x more potent.





That's one of the stupidest things I've ever heard.

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Re: B+ doesn't do shit [Re: Nisstyr]
    #3687655 - 01/27/05 07:17 AM (19 years, 2 months ago)

omg stop replying to me!

LOl that was meant for JIm with a smile! :lol:


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Re: B+ doesn't do shit [Re: MushroomFriend]
    #3687682 - 01/27/05 07:32 AM (19 years, 2 months ago)

Reply RePly rEpLy REPLY  :crazy2:


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Re: B+ doesn't do shit [Re: Nisstyr]
    #3687699 - 01/27/05 07:46 AM (19 years, 2 months ago)

RIP-LY RIP-LY

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Re: B+ doesn't do shit [Re: MushroomFriend]
    #3687854 - 01/27/05 09:23 AM (19 years, 2 months ago)

MF, almost no one uses that stupid reply to function, its a pain. You generally know who the person is talking to. Good luck getting people to reply to right posts though.

Especially me *runs away like Zoidberg to his classes*


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Re: B+ doesn't do shit [Re: scatmanrav]
    #3687865 - 01/27/05 09:28 AM (19 years, 2 months ago)

Its a good function which is *used*  in a stupid way, ergo, not used! Hey even abused! :laugh: :lol:

But lately I find its a pita people talking nonsense to me...

I get a mail of every reply to me, so lot of crap in the box.. :wink:

In long threads I can forgive somebody though, and even holy me sometimes forgets... :grin: At least say the name of the person you are talking to if not replying directly, such a little effort to reply "ok" ...

have a nice class! :thumbup:

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Re: B+ doesn't do shit [Re: TheHateCamel]
    #3687887 - 01/27/05 09:34 AM (19 years, 2 months ago)

Ive triped my ass off everytime ive eatin B+ but mine hve always been grown on bird seed poo and straw try a dif sub and see if there any better


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Re: B+ doesn't do shit [Re: MushroomFriend]
    #10325660 - 05/12/09 03:37 AM (14 years, 10 months ago)

All shrooms have the same active ingredients, if you want more visuals eat more shrooms.
Mushroom visuals are not like LSD visuals. Acid is up in your face and you cant ignore them. With mushrooms I find that if I turn the lights down and sit down and watch a real trippy movie as Im comming up I wig hard. I ate a 1/8 of B+ and wigged nuts for about 9 hours.  Great body buzz and awesome visuals. You just need to let those suckers get completely dry and eat between 3-4 grams.

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Re: B+ doesn't do shit [Re: redbarron57]
    #10325664 - 05/12/09 03:41 AM (14 years, 10 months ago)

4 year old thread.


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Re: B+ doesn't do shit [Re: MushroomFriend]
    #10325668 - 05/12/09 03:45 AM (14 years, 10 months ago)

I dont know about this, I pick a dose short after a pin less than 1/2 gram and my teeth were about to fall the fuck out .. I was grinning so hard.. :mushroom2: cubes..

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4 year old thread.



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Re: B+ doesn't do shit [Re: German Kahuna]
    #10325672 - 05/12/09 03:49 AM (14 years, 10 months ago)

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4 year old thread.



Probably before there was a forum for this conversation. lol

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