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OfflineLearyfan
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37 soldiers died today
    #3685577 - 01/26/05 10:49 PM (11 years, 10 months ago)

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37 Troops Die on Deadliest Day in Iraq


By JASON KEYSER, Associated Press Writer

BAGHDAD, Iraq - A U.S. helicopter crashed in a desert sandstorm in the early morning darkness Wednesday, killing the 30 Marines and one Navy sailor aboard. Six other troops died in insurgent ambushes in the deadliest day for Americans since the Iraq (news - web sites) war began nearly two years ago.

Only days before Iraq's crucial elections Sunday, militants set off at least eight car bombings that killed 13 people and injured 40 others, including 11 Americans. The guerrillas also carried out a string of attacks nationwide against schools that will serve as polling centers.


In Washington, President Bush (news - web sites) called on Iraqis to defy terrorism and go to the polls despite relentless insurgent attacks. He said it was a "very discouraging" day when the U.S. death toll for the war rose above 1,400.


The CH-53E Super Stallion was carrying personnel from the 1st Marine Division on a security mission in support of the election when it went down about 1:20 a.m. near the town of Rutbah, about 220 miles west of Baghdad, the military said.


The crash occurred during severe weather, but its cause was still under investigation, said Army Gen. John Abizaid, chief of U.S. Central Command. An Accuweather map showed sandstorms Wednesday in the western region of Iraq near the Jordanian border where the crash took place.


A search and rescue team was at the site. The victims were 30 Marines and one sailor, said Lt. Gen. John Sattler, the top Marine commander in Iraq ? the most American service members to die in a single incident since the March 2003 invasion of Iraq.


All but three of the Marines had been based in Hawaii, according to Sen. Daniel Akaka (news, bio, voting record), D-Hawaii.


The deadliest previous incident for U.S. troops was also a helicopter crash: a November 2003 collision of two Black Hawk helicopters that killed 17. Before Wednesday's bloodshed, the most Americans killed in one day came on the invasion's third day ? March 23, 2003 ? when 28 troops were killed during the U.S. military's drive to take Baghdad and topple Saddam Hussein (news - web sites).


The U.S. military has not seen such a high loss of life in one day in 15 years ? since an explosion ripped through a gun turret on the USS Iowa during a training exercise in the Caribbean in April 1989, killing 47 sailors.


Iraqi security forces and civilians have borne the brunt of violence in Iraq, with bombings often killing scores of people at a time. More than 180 people were killed on March 2, 2004, during a string of suicide attacks at Shiite shrines in Karbala and Baghdad.


Violence has only increased ahead of Sunday's election, which will create a 275-member National Assembly and regional legislatures. Sunni Muslim extremists have threatened to sabotage the election, and many Sunni clerics have called for a boycott because of the presence of U.S. and other foreign troops.


The group calling itself al-Qaida in Iraq warned people to stay away from the polls, threatening attacks. "Oh people, be careful. Be careful not to be near the centers of infidelity and vice, the polling centers ... Don't blame us but blame yourselves" if harmed," a Web statement issued in the group's name said.


In addition to Wednesday's crash deaths, four Marines were killed in fighting in Iraq's Anbar province, the military said.


A reporter embedded with those troops, Jim Dolan of WABC in New York City, said the deaths came when insurgents ambushed a Marine convoy leaving the town of Haditha, northwest of Baghdad, hitting a vehicle with a rocket-propelled grenade.


Also Wednesday, insurgents attacked a U.S. Army patrol near the northern town of Duluiyah, killing one soldier and wounding two others, and in the Baghdad area a roadside bomb killed another soldier and wounded two others, the U.S. command said.


The day's deaths brought to at least 1,416 the number of members of the U.S. military who have died in Iraq, according to an Associated Press count.


A string of political violence continued. Several schools slated to be used as polling stations were bombed overnight.





A suicide bomber detonated a fuel tanker at the offices of the Kurdistan Democratic Party in the town of Sinjar, southwest of Mosul, killing five and injuring at least 20 people, KDP officials said.

Earlier in the day, gunmen opened fire with machine guns on the local headquarters of the Patriotic Union of Kurdistan and the Communist Party in the city of Baqouba, north of Baghdad, killing a traffic policeman. The KDP and PUK are the two largest Kurdish groups in Iraq and have formed a coalition along with other Kurdish groups to run in the election.

Insurgents also set off three car bombs in rapid succession in the town of Riyadh, north of Baghdad, killing at least five people ? including three policemen.

Four American soldiers were injured in a car bombing Wednesday in Saddam's hometown of Tikrit, the U.S. command said. Another car bomb targeted a multinational forces convoy on the road to Baghdad's international airport, injuring four soldiers, the command said.

The attack temporarily closed the airport road, one of the country's most dangerous.

Another car bombing later hit the same airport road, and an eighth car bomb detonated prematurely in the town of Mashahda, 30 miles north of Baghdad, killing the two men in the car.





My god...........37!?!?!?!?! Jesus Christ. And I work/worked with a lady who just volunteered to go over there AGAIN!






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Re: 37 soldiers died today [Re: Learyfan]
    #3685628 - 01/26/05 10:56 PM (11 years, 10 months ago)

It's for the sake of Freedom though! Doesn't that mean anything to you?


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Re: 37 soldiers died today [Re: Ravus]
    #3685775 - 01/26/05 11:17 PM (11 years, 10 months ago)

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Ravus said:
It's for the sake of Freedom though! Doesn't that mean anything to you?




OMG, you don't believe that bullshit do you? If they wanted freedom let them do it themselves. We could just manage there civil war. not fight it and die for it

1500 us soldiers are dead, and you say hey its okay, Its for freedom!

if the US soldiers had freedom they wouldn't be fighting.

This war is a scandle, and its wrong.


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Re: 37 soldiers died today [Re: runnerup]
    #3685778 - 01/26/05 11:17 PM (11 years, 10 months ago)

that was blatant sarcasm..


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Re: 37 soldiers died today [Re: vampirism]
    #3685790 - 01/26/05 11:19 PM (11 years, 10 months ago)

Seriously. Someone's sarcasm detector is seriously defective.


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Re: 37 soldiers died today [Re: runnerup]
    #3685826 - 01/26/05 11:26 PM (11 years, 10 months ago)

Hahaa, Yeah I cant tell we have some weirdos in here that say some pretty crazy shit. Sorry about that. I just cant stand the bravado.


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Re: 37 soldiers died today [Re: Paou]
    #3685904 - 01/26/05 11:40 PM (11 years, 10 months ago)



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Re: 37 soldiers died today [Re: Learyfan]
    #3686312 - 01/27/05 12:39 AM (11 years, 10 months ago)

anyone else think that 37 is a who cares number? sure it sucks, but no more than any of the other billions that have died.

37, in a war thay start? doesnt matter...

wonder if someone has made a table comparing nationality death worth. 1yank=1000 angolians. 1 canuck= 100 afgahns. 1 brit=100 iraqi's.

tiss all bullshit to me....you go to iraq, prepare for the worst....its liek going to a slot machine and expecting to never loose.


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Re: 37 soldiers died today [Re: kadakuda]
    #3686331 - 01/27/05 12:41 AM (11 years, 10 months ago)

Not all the soldiers wanted this war when they signed up. I personally know a few who didn't.


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Re: 37 soldiers died today [Re: Paou]
    #3686378 - 01/27/05 12:47 AM (11 years, 10 months ago)

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Paou said:
Not all the soldiers wanted this war when they signed up. I personally know a few who didn't.



So do I, but they signed up to go to war. They gave up their choice when they signed the papers.


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Re: 37 soldiers died today [Re: Learyfan]
    #3686427 - 01/27/05 12:54 AM (11 years, 10 months ago)

Here is the Bushian double-speak:

Fewer soldiers dead: "Things are getting better and our plan is working as the Iraqi people are accepting that we are helping them get freedom."

More soldiers dead: "This is a sign that our enemy is getting frustrated and must resort to car bombings for their voice to be heard. This means that they fear freedom and thus we are succeeding."


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Re: 37 soldiers died today [Re: Swami]
    #3686466 - 01/27/05 12:58 AM (11 years, 10 months ago)

Ha, do you write for him?


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Re: 37 soldiers died today [Re: FrankieJustTrypt]
    #3686582 - 01/27/05 01:12 AM (11 years, 10 months ago)

I have read enough of his speechwriter's tripe to know Orwellian word-twisting when I hear it.

2001: "Saddam is absolutely no threat to America."

2003: "Saddam (whisper: 9/11) is an evil-doer who must be stopped before his WMD destroy (whisper: 9/11) America."

2004: "We never said Saddam was directly responsible for 9/11 (despite the paid shills at Fox News hyping this non-fact daily for over a year)."

(not exact quotes)


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Re: 37 soldiers died today [Re: Paou]
    #3686643 - 01/27/05 01:24 AM (11 years, 10 months ago)

i can respect that. i can also respect their choice to not sign up. what do these people think teh military is? as many people there are workign teh desk at home....never forget the fact that killing is a big and real part of military. gotta take the bad with teh good.


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Re: 37 soldiers died today [Re: kadakuda]
    #3686685 - 01/27/05 01:30 AM (11 years, 10 months ago)

31 people died because of weather or mechnical failures and all you can say is oh well that's what they signed up for, but we shoot someone who has an RPG on his shoulder and we are evil? some of you are really fucking sick


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Re: 37 soldiers died today [Re: snoopaloop53]
    #3686710 - 01/27/05 01:35 AM (11 years, 10 months ago)

i can live with that. im not saying tis ok....what im saying is 37 people that volountarily went there and died is shit all compared to millions that die from starving to death or have aids or insert you charity case here.

37 is not a big number...and they did CHOOSE to go....many people on this earth didnt choose to live their current conditions, at least not in sucha way.

so ya im a sick fuck that thinks 37 people dead is not really that important...truth comes out. wouldnt be any different if it were canadians or brotains.


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Re: 37 soldiers died today [Re: kadakuda]
    #3686714 - 01/27/05 01:35 AM (11 years, 10 months ago)

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kadakuda said:
i can respect that. i can also respect their choice to not sign up. what do these people think teh military is? as many people there are workign teh desk at home....never forget the fact that killing is a big and real part of military. gotta take the bad with teh good.



Of course they realize the military involves war, and most people in the military would recognize that war is sometimes necessary and justified, but they don't get to decide which wars to fight in, and thus can end up in wars they bitterly oppose.


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Re: 37 soldiers died today [Re: Swami]
    #3686731 - 01/27/05 01:39 AM (11 years, 10 months ago)

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Swami said:
Here is the Bushian double-speak:

Fewer soldiers dead: "Things are getting better and our plan is working as the Iraqi people are accepting that we are helping them get freedom."

More soldiers dead: "This is a sign that our enemy is getting frustrated and must resort to car bombings for their voice to be heard. This means that they fear freedom and thus we are succeeding."




Isn't he versitle.

But on the topic of feeling sorry for the soldiers, you know who I kinda feel bad for is the guys who signed up pre-911. Ouch, they had to do a lot more than they thought.





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Re: 37 soldiers died today [Re: kadakuda]
    #3686776 - 01/27/05 01:49 AM (11 years, 10 months ago)

37: it is not a large number of deaths compared to other wars, but for this war it is a large number.

I predict that there will be even more than 37 dead when sunday roles around. To these "insurgents" democracy is the enemy. "It is a form of government that allows you to choose your religion, and this is not acceptable in the eyes of God" (aka the Muslim fundamentalist's God).

These people fear that bringing democracy to their way of life will result in a loss of Muslim values. Democracy in the Middle East, means Americanization in the Middle East. They do not want to be America, a country they see as demoralizing.

The keyword here is 'fear.' This fear fuels insurgent agression; makes them unpredictable to a certain degree. When one acts out of the fear of "loosing it all," they act with all. Their attacks may seem fairly mild, as of yet, but I am convinced that they are holding back until "we" have our gaurd down.


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Re: 37 soldiers died today [Re: Learyfan]
    #3686781 - 01/27/05 01:49 AM (11 years, 10 months ago)

i signed up pre-911 and knew it could happen and so did just about everyone else who was living realistically, but why do some people that post here almost cheer when Coalition soldiers die? these same people are then upset if we kill someone else, i guess people dying doesn't really matter to them only the cause that they are dying for.


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