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OfflineEightball
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Starting a Stripclub - Need Your Input
    #3680254 - 01/25/05 11:51 PM (12 years, 5 months ago)

I was bullshitting with a friend tonight about him wanting to start a strip club and i thought it would be way too much initial capital but i just want to work out the numbers before i dismiss the idea.  A local club near my university (pop. 40k+) went up on the market for $2 mil with leasing with option to buy also available.  So i figure the first hurdle is the Adult Entertainment re-zoning.  I have no idea what that costs but i hear they have some panel/hearing about it and no one really wants a stripclub around.  Since the place was a club of sorts it has a stage and a bar (drink bar not poles for girls, those are  sold seperately)  so there would be less costs.  As for estimated cashflow, figure 0-100 people a day (?)  @ $10 cover + drink$ + $food + $% of stripper tips.  there are no other strip clubs anywhere close to the university and i think this place, targeted to the college student demographic (21+), would have constant supply of customers.  (and strippers)

Im over 21 years old and ive never been to a strip bar/club.  Mostly because i dont believe in paying some girl $ to basically tease me.  Anyways id like to know how much cover charge you pay and how much you usually drop on drinks and how much to the girls.  This way ill have some sorta averages to work with for some very general # shuffling to see if this place could turn a profit.

thanks for any input  :stoned:


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Re: Starting a Stripclub - Need Your Input [Re: Eightball]
    #3680269 - 01/25/05 11:54 PM (12 years, 5 months ago)

everything should be free for the first month, yah know like grand opening month, haha :smile:

nah fo reel dough, do some awesome specials, getem hooked to the place then start chargin regular prices like 5 bucks for domestic beer and mixed drinks and shit.


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Re: Starting a Stripclub - Need Your Input [Re: Eightball]
    #3680271 - 01/25/05 11:54 PM (12 years, 5 months ago)

I think in the investment world you could do something that might turn a better profit, but as for what, I do not know..
The service buisness sucks because you will sometimes have the place packed and have the tap off the hook, but then other times you will wonder what you got yourself into as you stare at an empty bar.


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Re: Starting a Stripclub - Need Your Input [Re: Eightball]
    #3680277 - 01/25/05 11:55 PM (12 years, 5 months ago)

Sorry, I have never been to one, either. I think that are lame and a poison to society. I won't go into my reasons, but I just think that they cause alot of problems. They do give sleazeballs somewhere to go, though.


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Re: Starting a Stripclub - Need Your Input [Re: blissedout]
    #3680327 - 01/26/05 12:03 AM (12 years, 5 months ago)

and sleazeballs normally got that cash into your businesses pocket. bankin off of scum.


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Re: Starting a Stripclub - Need Your Input [Re: AbstractHarmonix]
    #3680335 - 01/26/05 12:04 AM (12 years, 5 months ago)

If you are prepared for the Karma off all that kind of money, yeah.


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Re: Starting a Stripclub - Need Your Input [Re: Eightball]
    #3680363 - 01/26/05 12:08 AM (12 years, 5 months ago)

I been twice to a strip club and I'll probably never go back. Cover was $5 for me. Drinks were a little more than usual like $5 for a Becks. Just for the record I went there for the novelty of it and that's it. The first time there was a midget stripper and the second there was a stripper that shot ping pong balls out of her crotch. When a girl came by every 15 minutes or so it was basically mandatory for me to slip a buck in her cleavage. Many of the dirty old men paid the girls more for tricks like the "ride for five" where the guy lies down on the stage with a fiver in his mouth and the chick (a midget stripper in my case) picks up the bill with her ass cheeks. Also my female friend found this one stripper to be particularly attractive and she asked what a lap dance would cost. I guess it was $20. My friend didn't have any money otherwise she would have gotten a lap dance from her. Keep in mind that the tips that the strippers make is theirs to keep. The money you would make would be from cover charge and drinks. I'm not sure if strippers get paid by the hour aside from their tips or what.


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Re: Starting a Stripclub - Need Your Input [Re: blissedout]
    #3680369 - 01/26/05 12:09 AM (12 years, 5 months ago)

i think id be a pretty cool boss. absolutely no side dealing in the club of drugs cause of the bad element it brings in and the cops. no making whores outa them, just getting some girls through college and sifting some bills off of loaded college students


strippers give a % back at least at the one place around here. a friend is friends with a stripper there i guess..


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Edited by Eightball (01/26/05 12:11 AM)


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Re: Starting a Stripclub - Need Your Input [Re: Eightball]
    #3680503 - 01/26/05 12:29 AM (12 years, 5 months ago)

never been to one...'fraid i gotta agree with blissed on this one, 100%


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Re: Starting a Stripclub - Need Your Input [Re: Hendostan]
    #3684061 - 01/26/05 06:13 PM (12 years, 5 months ago)

Both stripclubs and prostitutes probably save lives and keep rape-rate lower. Sleazeballs and scum you call em. Wuzz up with that?

Let all do their thing, right? You come out a little judgmental in my book, but then again I might be a sleazeball :wink:


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Re: Starting a Stripclub - Need Your Input [Re: Eightball]
    #3684156 - 01/26/05 06:45 PM (12 years, 5 months ago)

I've only gone to stripclubs a few times but i would pay $5-10 cover, prob $40 on drinks and prob like $10-15 for a horseshoe dance depending on how many other of my friends that I went with want to have one. I dont think i would pay for a lapdance just because thats usually more and I dont really feel like paying for it. You may want to change your idea of a strip club because it could be sketchy financially depending on where its located. Most I know of are located somewhere in between citys or more densly populated areas. They usually get people coming from all over. Well I can't really be sure about that, again i have only gone a couple times. You might be better off with a regular club or bar. I would think you would might get more regular customers that way. Also if you are worried about getting the zoning, you could always start it off as a regular club first then convert it. Just have some scantily clad women serving and shit, but do it in good style. If you establish your business first it may be easier to get the zoning.


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Re: Starting a Stripclub - Need Your Input [Re: blissedout]
    #3684463 - 01/26/05 07:40 PM (12 years, 5 months ago)

No way! I have been to them in the past, but it was an only once in a while thing, I never got a lap dance...but they don't do that in Utah it is illegal...I don't go to them now because I want to go club dancing anyway..


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Re: Starting a Stripclub - Need Your Input [Re: Eightball]
    #3685065 - 01/26/05 09:35 PM (12 years, 5 months ago)

stupid honkey kids don't open strip clubs.

that's for gangsters, mobsters and corporate conglomerates.

1. zoning.
2. liquor license
3. security
4. girls
5. health codes
6. taxes
7. legal

this is a bad idea


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Re: Starting a Stripclub - Need Your Input [Re: blissedout]
    #3685098 - 01/26/05 09:42 PM (12 years, 5 months ago)

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Sorry, I have never been to one, either. I think that are lame and a poison to society. I won't go into my reasons, but I just think that they cause alot of problems. They do give sleazeballs somewhere to go, though.



Dude, you've never been to one, so you obviously don't know. Every time I've been to a strip club, I didn't see many "sleazeballs" as you put it(mighty judgemental, aren't we?). I saw mostly businessmen, college students, and couples(yes many women like strip clubs too). No one was grabbing the strippers' ass, or calling them sluts or anything. Now, there are some sleazy strip clubs out there, but I wouldn't say they're the norm. Open your mind a little and stop making judgements about things you don't understand.


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Re: Starting a Stripclub - Need Your Input [Re: afoaf]
    #3685658 - 01/26/05 11:02 PM (12 years, 5 months ago)

afoaf said
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that's for gangsters, mobsters and corporate conglomerates


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Re: Starting a Stripclub - Need Your Input [Re: Paou]
    #3685805 - 01/26/05 11:21 PM (12 years, 5 months ago)

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Paou said:
Quote:

blissedout said:
Sorry, I have never been to one, either. I think that are lame and a poison to society. I won't go into my reasons, but I just think that they cause alot of problems. They do give sleazeballs somewhere to go, though.



Dude, you've never been to one, so you obviously don't know.  Every time I've been to a strip club, I didn't see many "sleazeballs" as you put it(mighty judgemental, aren't we?).  I saw mostly businessmen, college students, and couples(yes many women like strip clubs too).  No one was grabbing the strippers' ass, or calling them sluts or anything.  Now, there are some sleazy strip clubs out there, but I wouldn't say they're the norm.  Open your mind a little and stop making judgements about things you don't understand.




For one thing, I have known quite a few strippers and they stripped in the "better" strip clubs around. They tell me their stories about a day at work, and yes the strip scene is full of scum. Are you saying that college students and buisnessmen can't be scum? Sorry to sound closed-minded, but that is the way it is and I have one of the opened minds around. You sound a little defensive in your rantings. Did I strike a nerve somewhere? My granddad always said that a wounded dog will yelp. I guess he was right. :smirk:

I still stand by what I said. Strip clubs are havens for scum.


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Re: Starting a Stripclub - Need Your Input [Re: blissedout]
    #3685881 - 01/26/05 11:36 PM (12 years, 5 months ago)

Defensive? Not at all. Just fighting ignorance, like I always do. You sound rather accusatory and judgemental, however(and definitely do not have an open mind as far as I can see). Of course occasionally there will be scumbags in a place like that, which is why they have security guards. Obviously these strippers you know get something out of their line of work or they wouldn't do it. Do they say that the majority of customers are scum? I'm sure if they were, they wouldn't work there. Most people who go to strip clubs are simply normal people looking for a good time.


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Re: Starting a Stripclub - Need Your Input [Re: afoaf]
    #3685927 - 01/26/05 11:44 PM (12 years, 5 months ago)

Quote:

afoaf said:
stupid honkey kids don't open strip clubs.

that's for gangsters, mobsters and corporate conglomerates.

1. zoning.
2. liquor license
3. security
4. girls
5. health codes
6. taxes
7. legal

this is a bad idea



What he said....

Theres a shitload of stripclubs in this town and there always seems to be some kind of trouble involving them. Liquor lisence issues, prostitution and drug busts, shady dealings with politicians, and a consistent string of law-suits for all types of things.

You'd be better off starting a coffee shop that caters to the college crowd. Throw in some live music nights and/or poetry nights and you got yourself a winner in a college town!


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Re: Starting a Stripclub - Need Your Input [Re: Paou]
    #3685940 - 01/26/05 11:46 PM (12 years, 5 months ago)

You are right about people going there to have a good time. I have alot of friends that go to strip clubs and they are okay kind of folks. I will also admit that some decent people do go to strip clubs, but the scum percentage rate is pretty high. My friends that were strippers only stayed in it for the money. They dealt with the bullshit for the mad amounts of cash that they would pull. Especially on nights when premier dancers would perform. They sometimes would pull 650-800 bucks in a single shift!!! This kind of pocket change will make you put up with alot of shit. But, yeah, they would bitch about a different piece of shit that would do some random act of scumminess, every single day! So, think what you will, I know the truth directly from the horse's mouth. It is the same in every city. People try and sugar coat the truth, but it can't be sweetened to fit your wants and needs. It has to be set free.


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Re: Starting a Stripclub - Need Your Input [Re: blissedout]
    #3685950 - 01/26/05 11:47 PM (12 years, 5 months ago)

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Sorry, I have never been to one, either. I think that are lame and a poison to society. I won't go into my reasons, but I just think that they cause alot of problems. They do give sleazeballs somewhere to go, though.




For one thing, I have known quite a few strippers and they stripped in the "better" strip clubs around. They tell me their stories about a day at work, and yes the strip scene is full of scum. Are you saying that college students and buisnessmen can't be scum? Sorry to sound closed-minded, but that is the way it is and I have one of the opened minds around. You sound a little defensive in your rantings. Did I strike a nerve somewhere? My granddad always said that a wounded dog will yelp. I guess he was right. :smirk:

I still stand by what I said. Strip clubs are havens for scum.



By that reasoning, this whole planet is a haven for scum. 
on to my point:
Naked women!! dear god NOOOOOO!!!!
onto my real point:
Did "quite a few strippers" you have known never mention the guys that are normal?  God forbid, even polite?  Not that I am saying everyone who goes to them is A-OK, but c'mon.

anyway, to the original poster:
I go to strip clubs here and there.  Maybe 6 times a year.  More or less depending on the cash flow and what friends/co-workers are doing.  $5-$10 for a cover.  $20-$40 on drinks.  Maybe a lap-y if I like one of them.
Trying to make conversation with a girl that is topless/naked AND working can be quite a good time.
(edited to add "damn, three posts too late")


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