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OfflineBrAiN
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    #3679133 - 01/25/05 08:04 PM (11 years, 10 months ago)

http://www.ifilm.com/ifilmdetail/2663486?htv=12&htv=12&htv=12

I think IES pasted this link in the irc channel


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Re: cat fight on fox news [Re: BrAiN]
    #3679222 - 01/25/05 08:23 PM (11 years, 10 months ago)

Ha

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Re: cat fight on fox news [Re: gdman]
    #3679233 - 01/25/05 08:26 PM (11 years, 10 months ago)

The last thread on this topic was locked yesterday.


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Re: cat fight on fox news [Re: BrAiN]
    #3679254 - 01/25/05 08:31 PM (11 years, 10 months ago)

Im surprised she didn't point out that Bill Clintons last inauguration was more expensive. A little planning and that argument would have gone nowhere.


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Re: cat fight on fox news [Re: Catalysis]
    #3679320 - 01/25/05 08:50 PM (11 years, 10 months ago)

We weren't fighting a war. The country was a bit diffrent when Clinton was pres.


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Re: cat fight on fox news [Re: gdman]
    #3679439 - 01/25/05 09:18 PM (11 years, 10 months ago)

yeah, as in ... BUDGET SURPLUS. not the largest budget deficit that has ever existed in US history. :p

BTW, that woulnd't have taken much research to find that out either buddy.


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Re: cat fight on fox news [Re: vivid]
    #3679456 - 01/25/05 09:23 PM (11 years, 10 months ago)

Once again and with gusto, it was paid for with private money.


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Re: cat fight on fox news [Re: vivid]
    #3679465 - 01/25/05 09:24 PM (11 years, 10 months ago)

Just because you tax the hell out of people doesn't give you the right to spend more on your inauguration.

However, I agree that Bush is acting more like a democrat when it comes to big government and spending.


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Re: cat fight on fox news [Re: Catalysis]
    #3679474 - 01/25/05 09:27 PM (11 years, 10 months ago)

Regardless of who pays for it, it looks terrible to have 10 parties while our troops are gettign killed because they don't have the right equipment, what ever happened to "support our troops?"


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Re: cat fight on fox news [Re: Catalysis]
    #3679475 - 01/25/05 09:28 PM (11 years, 10 months ago)

Fuck that.. Bush didn't spend it.. The feds made DC flip the bill for most of the costs.. a city that voted AGAINST bush... kinda fucked up, eh?


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Re: cat fight on fox news [Re: BrAiN]
    #3680015 - 01/25/05 11:13 PM (11 years, 10 months ago)

DC has always paid for the parade festivities they have always been reimbursed by the federal government 100%. This year bush made them build that ridiculous bullet proof stadium bleachers and all the rest of the regular bleachers, which go to party favorites first before the general public, he made them pay for the security as well and when they asked for the reimbursment you know what he told them???

Take it out of the homeland security money that was appropriated to DC for the purpose of upgrading hospitals, and fire fighting equipment. 15 million dollars that did not go to securing our nations capitol because bush wanted his party.

How's that for sending mixed messages.

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Re: cat fight on fox news [Re: blaze2]
    #3680032 - 01/25/05 11:15 PM (11 years, 10 months ago)

Dc has one of the worst school systems in the nation too... When I lived there a few years ago... There were dozens of schools that weren't open when the school year started because they were crap.


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Re: cat fight on fox news [Re: BrAiN]
    #3680829 - 01/26/05 01:14 AM (11 years, 10 months ago)

With all this talk about Bill Clinton's "Surplus" one might ask, of Clinton's 8 years how many years of surplus were there? If memory serves me 2 at most. And couldn't that be attributed by the Balanced Budget Act, created and passed by the Republican Congress, as well as the tech sector boom? As I recall the national debt did not get any smaller, nor did spending decrease significantly under Bill Clinton.


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Re: cat fight on fox news [Re: Divided_Sky]
    #3680897 - 01/26/05 01:24 AM (11 years, 10 months ago)

Ah, the tech sector boom is the democrats' ace in the hole.  Most of them act as though it never happened, and when it is brought up, they attempt to attribute it to Clinton...Then again, Al Gore did invent the internet.  :grin:


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Re: cat fight on fox news [Re: Catalysis]
    #3681468 - 01/26/05 03:17 AM (11 years, 10 months ago)

lol there can be no doubt that the techboom helped push the budget into the black.

Its true only teh last two years of Clinton's two terms were surplus years, and yes its true that the balanced budget act was passed by a republican congress, but if Clinton hadn't agreed it was a good idea he never would have signed it.

Democrats might not like to talk about the Tech Boom, but republicans hate when you bring up the fact that before clinton it was 15 years of Republican presidents who did nothing for the budget. Then Clinton comes around and voila problem fixed, and then bush gets elected, and poof there goes the budget again. Funny how teh republicans like to accuse Dems of spending too much...

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Re: cat fight on fox news [Re: Divided_Sky]
    #3681684 - 01/26/05 04:01 AM (11 years, 10 months ago)

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With all this talk about Bill Clinton's "Surplus" one might ask, of Clinton's 8 years how many years of surplus were there? If memory serves me 2 at most. And couldn't that be attributed by the Balanced Budget Act, created and passed by the Republican Congress, as well as the tech sector boom? As I recall the national debt did not get any smaller, nor did spending decrease significantly under Bill Clinton.




Calling it a surplus is fishy. I'm pretty sure the "surplus" didn't factor in the cost of welfare or social security, although I could be wrong.


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Re: cat fight on fox news [Re: blacksabbathrulz]
    #3681822 - 01/26/05 04:55 AM (11 years, 10 months ago)

yes you could most definately be.


and btw, non-SS welfare is hardly anything in the scheme of the budget.


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Re: cat fight on fox news [Re: Tao]
    #3681831 - 01/26/05 05:01 AM (11 years, 10 months ago)

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TaoTeChing said:
yes you could most definately be.


and btw, non-SS welfare is hardly anything in the scheme of the budget.




Yeah, welfare is incredibly miniscule compared to SS. I'm also pretty sure that "surplus" was simply a projected surplus, and not an actual surplus. I'm having trouble finding non-partisan sources that can confirm/debunk this.


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