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oceansize
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Would You?
#3674510 - 01/24/05 08:56 PM (19 years, 2 months ago) |
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If you witnessed a train barrelling towards ten children dancing over the railroad tracks, oblivious and bound for certain death, unless you intervene, and by doing so, switch the tracks so the train will send another child on the other tracks to certain death, would you? The children on whatever track the train hits are bound for certain death. You have no information on any of them.
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Phluck
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I'd rather have to explain to one family why I chose to kill their child than to ten.
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skystone
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Since I am not qualified to say wheather quantity amtters or not, I'd leave it the way it is.
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MANNALORD
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Re: Would You? [Re: skystone]
#3674596 - 01/24/05 09:09 PM (19 years, 2 months ago) |
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I'd rather not intervene, if destiny has chosen for the 10 children to die, than so be it. Most of them are likely to lead miserable lives, possible become abusive alcoholic parents, but even if they are destined for greatness than it is obvious there greatness is not needed, otherwise they would not be playing on a train track at that time. On the other hand, the kid on the other train track is here for a reason, it's not his time to die.
but im sure there are those who will disagree with my sense of fate
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lncarnadine
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Hasn't destiny also chosen for you to be there to flip the switch? Does destiny reprieve you of moral obligation?
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lncarnadine
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Even better, what if it was your child on one track and the other track had nobody on it? Would you let destiny take its course then?
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incubaby_421
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i try not to interfere with destiny, witch is why i chose no, but maybe destiny would be for me to save them, i guess if it were i would just hit the switch anyways.
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Swami
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Re: Would You? [Re: Phluck]
#3675717 - 01/24/05 11:55 PM (19 years, 2 months ago) |
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Let's be more realistic here. What if it was two ugly middle-aged women on the tracks vs. one hot young babe on the other set? Whom would you save?
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Ravus
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Re: Would You? [Re: Swami]
#3675738 - 01/25/05 12:02 AM (19 years, 2 months ago) |
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What if it was 100 fat ugly middle-aged women on one track versus one amazingly hot supermodel who would rip off your clothes if you saved her? We all know what human nature would go for, immense personal gain nearly always trumps unknown person's immense loss.
I would probably leave it as it is. If the kids are dumb enough to play on the tracks when a train's coming, who am I to judge natural selection?
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redgreenvines
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Re: Would You? [Re: Ravus]
#3676173 - 01/25/05 04:15 AM (19 years, 2 months ago) |
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this is science?
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blaze2
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i voted to switch it but i would have only thrown the switch halway thereby causing the train to derail and saving all the children. Sure the person or persons on the train might die but people have a chance to survive train wrecks while getting hit by one has a zero survival rate. at least i dont think anyone has ever lived through getting hit by a train.
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Digs
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Re: Would You? [Re: Swami]
#3676252 - 01/25/05 05:16 AM (19 years, 2 months ago) |
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Quote:
Swami said: Let's be more realistic here. What if it was two ugly middle-aged women on the tracks vs. one hot young babe on the other set? Whom would you save?
I'm just a tool of evolution
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SkorpivoMusterion
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Always let fate decide in situations such as these.
"Hey, man...it was Fate, not me man. Fate, man."
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skystone
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There is no morality here, if you chose to save the kids, you have killed the koid who wasn't supose to die, and if you don't do anything you will kill all those kids.
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Ravus
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Re: Would You? [Re: skystone]
#3677850 - 01/25/05 01:13 PM (19 years, 2 months ago) |
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There's no morality in life. You think everyday life, without us placing our "civilized" human morals on everybody's actions, would follow morality?
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skystone
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Re: Would You? [Re: Ravus]
#3677868 - 01/25/05 01:18 PM (19 years, 2 months ago) |
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Just because morality is a concept made by humans, doesn't mean we don't have to follow it...
We allso obey traffic signs, and semaphores.
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incubaby_421
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Re: Would You? [Re: skystone]
#3677877 - 01/25/05 01:20 PM (19 years, 2 months ago) |
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YOU obey trafic signs, that is.
-------------------- "yet the more i dig, the more i consume, the more i unfold... the less protected i feel. i am the spit on the hair of the son of an electron, swimming around the nucleus of a cell inside the sperm of a killer bee, and my purpose is as nebulous as why weve been bestowed with the capacity to give a shit" Brandon Boyd
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skystone
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Me and most other people...
when I go onto the street and look around, and when I see a red light, I see cars standing and not going..
Is it different where you live?
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Huehuecoyotl
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Re: Would You? [Re: Ravus]
#3677997 - 01/25/05 01:49 PM (19 years, 2 months ago) |
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Will the 100 ugly, fat middle aged women rip their clothes off? This experience may have some value...quantity Vs quality.
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ld50negative1
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