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Offlinecollegeshroom
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To bottom case or not, tho is the question...
    #3674990 - 01/25/05 12:06 AM (11 years, 10 months ago)

I have been doing lots of casing tek reading and found that a lot of people do not like bottom casing because of their own reasons. Since I wll be doing some casing of my own this weekend I want to know what the ratio of people who like and dont like to bottom case are. Thanks!
bottom case?
You may choose only one
Yes
No


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Edited by collegeshroom (01/25/05 12:07 AM)


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Re: To bottom case or not, tho is the question... [Re: collegeshroom]
    #3675802 - 01/25/05 02:22 AM (11 years, 10 months ago)

Waste of casing..


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Re: To bottom case or not, tho is the question... [Re: scatmanrav]
    #3675842 - 01/25/05 02:34 AM (11 years, 10 months ago)

I'd suggest it in a bulk just incase you overwet your substrate. Gives the excess water somewhere to go. I'd say just put a half inch or so of perilite on the bottom of a bulk.


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Re: To bottom case or not, tho is the question... [Re: jonas]
    #3675927 - 01/25/05 03:14 AM (11 years, 10 months ago)

PERLITE is the worst thing to use as a bottom layer. And bulk would need it less then a whole grain casing..silly advice...


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Growing with bags, start to finish (including my new grain and substrate prep)
Anyone looking to start bulk tubs/mono tubs/shotgun hybrids? Good tubs to use..
How I do grain (old still good tips)
Turn your closet into a fruiting chamber
Casing layer colonization and overlay


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Re: To bottom case or not, tho is the question... [Re: scatmanrav]
    #3675944 - 01/25/05 03:22 AM (11 years, 10 months ago)

sorry man. my bad on the spelling of PERLITE. And maybe there are better things you could use, but I'm just sayin', even that would be better than your casing sitting in water.


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Re: To bottom case or not, tho is the question... [Re: jonas]
    #3675956 - 01/25/05 03:28 AM (11 years, 10 months ago)

Your substrate shouldnt be in water anyway and for bulk to be sitting in water...you need to actually be watering it..like a plant. Either way..perlite wont do anything..the moisture will still be there...perlite wicks moisture..it would be just as bad sitting in water...so yes..that was silly advice.

Verm would soak up moisture and could be used on grain casings but if you water properly and keep proper conditions, it isn't needed at all.


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Growing with bags, start to finish (including my new grain and substrate prep)
Anyone looking to start bulk tubs/mono tubs/shotgun hybrids? Good tubs to use..
How I do grain (old still good tips)
Turn your closet into a fruiting chamber
Casing layer colonization and overlay


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Re: To bottom case or not, tho is the question... [Re: scatmanrav]
    #3675979 - 01/25/05 03:39 AM (11 years, 10 months ago)

Whatever man, you're probably right. But with all due respect, and i do respect what you've got to say, you know your stuff, but you don't need to come across as such a smartass. Ain't no need to parade around like if people don't have their grows running 100% efficently that you're somehow better. Just my .02


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Re: To bottom case or not, tho is the question... [Re: jonas]
    #3675995 - 01/25/05 04:08 AM (11 years, 10 months ago)

I dont come across like a smartass when people who dont know the answers to questions just leave the answers to those who do instead of telling people where you suggest doing things when youve never actually done it. If people arent running efficiently, thats something different...but people asking on how to do things more efficiently and then you telling them something that doesnt benefit them in anyway is poor judgement. All I did was call your advice silly and your taking far to much offence to it. The advice was silly..if you cant admit when your wrong (or silly even), thats an issue you need to deal with.


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"life is like a drop of rain getting closer and closer to falling into a lake, and then when you hit the lake there is no more rain drop, only the lake."

Growing with bags, start to finish (including my new grain and substrate prep)
Anyone looking to start bulk tubs/mono tubs/shotgun hybrids? Good tubs to use..
How I do grain (old still good tips)
Turn your closet into a fruiting chamber
Casing layer colonization and overlay


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Re: To bottom case or not, tho is the question... [Re: scatmanrav]
    #3675998 - 01/25/05 04:10 AM (11 years, 10 months ago)

I'm not trying to be a dick guy but
Quote:

scatmanrav said:
PERLITE is the worst thing to use as a bottom layer.



you dont want anything that is gonna take any moisture away from your casing. The more water content you have the longer youre going to be able to fruit. The only time perlite should be used is on the bottom of a terrarium if you havent went to a PMP yet.


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Re: To bottom case or not, tho is the question... [Re: metasin]
    #3676007 - 01/25/05 04:19 AM (11 years, 10 months ago)

Five shroom to you recondite :smile:


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"life is like a drop of rain getting closer and closer to falling into a lake, and then when you hit the lake there is no more rain drop, only the lake."

Growing with bags, start to finish (including my new grain and substrate prep)
Anyone looking to start bulk tubs/mono tubs/shotgun hybrids? Good tubs to use..
How I do grain (old still good tips)
Turn your closet into a fruiting chamber
Casing layer colonization and overlay


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Re: To bottom case or not, tho is the question... [Re: scatmanrav]
    #3676017 - 01/25/05 04:28 AM (11 years, 10 months ago)

Quote:

scatmanrav said:
I dont come across like a smartass when people who dont know the answers to questions just leave the answers to those who do instead of telling people where you suggest doing things when youve never actually done it. If people arent running efficiently, thats something different...but people asking on how to do things more efficiently and then you telling them something that doesnt benefit them in anyway is poor judgement. All I did was call your advice silly and your taking far to much offence to it. The advice was silly..if you cant admit when your wrong (or silly even), thats an issue you need to deal with.




Quote:

Whatever man, you're probably right


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I ain't tryin to start a pissin contest man, I admitted it, you know your shit. I was wrong, but I'm just sayin, intended or not, you can come across as a dick sometimes. I probably can too, but I do my best not to. No hard feelins man. We're all on here for the same reason.


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Re: To bottom case or not, tho is the question... [Re: jonas]
    #3676065 - 01/25/05 04:41 AM (11 years, 10 months ago)

Oh yes! I certainly can if I feel its warrented, I'll admit to that. Sometimes Its often less warrented then I feel it is..but thats what I feel. Anyways...on with the topic...


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"life is like a drop of rain getting closer and closer to falling into a lake, and then when you hit the lake there is no more rain drop, only the lake."

Growing with bags, start to finish (including my new grain and substrate prep)
Anyone looking to start bulk tubs/mono tubs/shotgun hybrids? Good tubs to use..
How I do grain (old still good tips)
Turn your closet into a fruiting chamber
Casing layer colonization and overlay


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Re: To bottom case or not, tho is the question... [Re: scatmanrav]
    #3676259 - 01/25/05 07:22 AM (11 years, 10 months ago)

I agree with recon and scat, it's not about being a smartass, it's about being right :dumblol: :thumbup:


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Re: To bottom case or not, tho is the question... [Re: IGnosticAbhorI]
    #3676487 - 01/25/05 09:29 AM (11 years, 10 months ago)

I see some people dont do it because they feel it can cause contaims underneath everything which you cant see, which makes 100% sense to me. Any other thoughts on that?


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Re: To bottom case or not, tho is the question... [Re: collegeshroom]
    #3683524 - 01/26/05 04:22 PM (11 years, 10 months ago)

I wouldnt be as worried if you use verm or casing soil...but perilite will not absorb the moisture so the water will still pool at the bottom of the casing. The perilite will give the contam plenty of stagnant air space and room to grow since the casing is sitting on top of it as well. Some still say its a possibility with verm/casing soil but that isnt really the case if you sterilize it well the risk wouldnt be much different (with verm/casing soil).

The only reason I wouldnt use it is because I dont believe it to be needed. I get fine results without it so why add the extra cost?


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"life is like a drop of rain getting closer and closer to falling into a lake, and then when you hit the lake there is no more rain drop, only the lake."

Growing with bags, start to finish (including my new grain and substrate prep)
Anyone looking to start bulk tubs/mono tubs/shotgun hybrids? Good tubs to use..
How I do grain (old still good tips)
Turn your closet into a fruiting chamber
Casing layer colonization and overlay


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