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Does mass intention change unpredictable outcome?
    #3670616 - 01/24/05 02:53 AM (11 years, 10 months ago)

Maybe I worded that^ wrong... A better way to ask would be an example.

Could the thousands of Romans cheering and sending wishes of goodwill upon the underdog gladiator really give the fighter the extra courage to overcome his fear and master his opponent?
And the NFL playoffs. Could millions of fans routing possibly give the players that extra edge and purpose?

OR

Could the humans perceptions of this global consciousness phenomenon produce the effects mentioned.. Clearly something is causing it..

But how do we measure that.. how can we poll the citizens of the world and ask them how many and to what degree devoted thought of ill or well being upon a person place or thing..
Clearly mass intention can be woven for good and bad, no?

I'm unsure where I stand on this.. I for one feel like the wave of mass thought is powerful if you just listen.. Not with your ears, but I am not sure what.


Edited by 2Experimental (01/24/05 03:04 AM)


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Re: Does mass intention change unpredictable outcome? [Re: 2Experimental]
    #3670904 - 01/24/05 04:02 AM (11 years, 10 months ago)

Mass intention changes a predictable outcome when people take thier intentions out of thier brains and get out there and do something tangible about them. We're not going to stop the earth from dying by thinking about how much we want it, we'll change things by turning theory into action and doing what we can.


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Re: Does mass intention change unpredictable outcome? [Re: NiamhNyx]
    #3672428 - 01/24/05 03:00 PM (11 years, 10 months ago)

Can't I just get stoned and send out love vibes?  :heart: :crazy:


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Re: Does mass intention change unpredictable outcome? [Re: Swami]
    #3672598 - 01/24/05 03:48 PM (11 years, 10 months ago)

I predicted you would reply in this thread before I made it...





prove it :smile:


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Re: Does mass intention change unpredictable outcome? [Re: 2Experimental]
    #3673037 - 01/24/05 05:33 PM (11 years, 10 months ago)

Swami dude, lets get some hella dank bud, play our bongos and have a love in for world peace! :mushroom2: :flowerchild: :hippie: :heart:


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Re: Does mass intention change unpredictable outcome? [Re: NiamhNyx]
    #3673349 - 01/24/05 06:57 PM (11 years, 10 months ago)

Hey, it worked so well back in the Summer of Love (1968), why wouldn't it work today?  :sun:


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Re: Does mass intention change unpredictable outcome? [Re: 2Experimental]
    #3674028 - 01/24/05 09:29 PM (11 years, 10 months ago)

>Could the thousands of Romans cheering and sending wishes of goodwill upon the underdog gladiator really give the fighter the extra courage to overcome his fear and master his opponent?
-The fighter might find this to be true, and may credit the crowds response to his movements. However, it was more than simple intention that the fighter would have to credit... as the romans were expressing their intent audibly. Also, the outcome of the battle would not have been unpredictable.

>And the NFL playoffs. Could millions of fans routing possibly give the players that extra edge and purpose?
-Perhaps, but if it's the intentions of the fans that are affecting the results, than those sitting in an arm chair in their own homes should also be able to influence the game by watching the TV with intent.


>Could the humans perceptions of this global consciousness phenomenon produce the effects mentioned.. Clearly something is causing it..
-It's hard for me to understand what you meant to say, maybe if you tell me what "it" is... and how you came to the clear conclusion that something is causing it.

>But how do we measure that.. how can we poll the citizens of the world and ask them how many and to what degree devoted thought of ill or well being upon a person place or thing..
-Simple, before the next game at a local stadium we pass out cards to each person as they walk in. Before the game begins we mislead them. We tell them that we are going to spin a roulette wheel and that each person that guesses correctly will win $50 dollars. After they fill out the card, we gather them and put them in a sealed box. Then, as everyone is intently watching the roulette wheel, we spin it. Record the number. Examine the cards and find the mode (that is the most frequently occuring number in a data set) and see if that is the same number that the roulette spun.

>Clearly mass intention can be woven for good and bad, no?
-Good and bad are entirely subjective... but if what you are saying is that the sum intentions of those who will something affect that things outcome, then the outcome... as defined by the popular opinion, is good.

If you are not clear where you stand on this, take a hundred of your freinds to a typical odds-set-against-you casino and have them support you. Play all-or-nothing... whether you walk out of the casino in your underwear, or take the elevator to the top floor as owner should help you figure out where you stand.


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