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help installing Gentoo Linux
    #3669384 - 01/23/05 09:09 PM (12 years, 6 months ago)

Hi I'm new to the whole linux thing and need a little help.

I have installed the stage files...
Next step is to install Portage.

I followed the instructions word for word.. they say:
# cd /mnt/gentoo
# links2 http://www.gentoo.org/main/en/mirrors.xml <--this worked, I downloaded it

# tar -xvjf /mnt/gentoo/portage-20050122.tar.bz2 -C /mnt/gentoo/usr

When I try this, I get: Cannot chdir: No such file or directory.

what's the problem?



What is the command to do this?

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Re: help installing Gentoo Linux [Re: endokrin]
    #3669701 - 01/23/05 10:52 PM (12 years, 6 months ago)

*cough* debian *cough* :rolleyes:


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Re: help installing Gentoo Linux [Re: delta9]
    #3669857 - 01/23/05 11:31 PM (12 years, 6 months ago)

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delta9 said:
*cough* debian *cough* :rolleyes:




This doesn't seem like much help.
He's not asking for advice on a distro; he's past that point.

He may even have debian but wants to just try pulling teeth, i mean installing gentoo


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Re: help installing Gentoo Linux [Re: endokrin]
    #3669914 - 01/23/05 11:47 PM (12 years, 6 months ago)

try leave out -C /mnt/gentoo/usr

have a look at http://unix.za.net/~fdsd/Brief%20Gentoo%20Installation%20Guide.htm
it's a step by step guide. quick and easy to follow your steps.


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Re: help installing Gentoo Linux [Re: blink]
    #3669935 - 01/23/05 11:53 PM (12 years, 6 months ago)

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blinkidiot said:
Quote:

delta9 said:
*cough* debian *cough* :rolleyes:




This doesn't seem like much help.
He's not asking for advice on a distro; he's past that point.

He may even have debian but wants to just try pulling teeth, i mean installing gentoo



My favorite "installing gentoo" quip, ever:
Quote:

"The Gentoo install was like finding a forest, cutting down the trees, breaking a leg, getting out of the hospital, coming back, taking out the stumps and clearing the land of rocks, planting wheat, building a mill, making flower, making dough, then building an oven in which to burn it to a crisp, stealing a cow, milking it, churning the butter, picking berries, making jam. YUMMY! Breakfast is ready, but you don't have time to eat because it's time to update everything, including GCC, which also means a complete recompilation of everything."



:rolleyes:


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Re: help installing Gentoo Linux [Re: delta9]
    #3671611 - 01/24/05 10:42 AM (12 years, 6 months ago)

The install is much better then it used to be. Basically the install docs are amazingly well written and so comprehensive that they cover everything. For me the speed gained(ok ok, I know its small) was worth a day of work. Besiades gentoo has some of the most helpful people of any distro in the forums. They rarely answer any question with read the man pages to any question, even the really newb stuff.

http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/handbook/handbook-x86.xml?part=1&chap=5

That should be about where you are. By the error message it looks like you skipped downloading Stage tarball. I would reccomend using a stage 2 tar. Stage 1 is more of a cool nerd thing then something that you really need to do.

Code:

cd /mnt/gentoo
links2 http://gentoo.mirrors.pair.com/releases/x86/2004.3/stages/x86/stage2-x86-2004.3.tar.bz2
tar -xvjpf stage?-*.tar.bz2
links2 http://mirrors.acm.cs.rpi.edu/gentoo/snapshots/portage-20050122.tar.bz2
tar -xvjf /mnt/gentoo/portage-20050122.tar.bz2 -C /mnt/gentoo/usr




Then continue on from 5.e on the gentoo docs. As you can see I just picked a couple mirrors for you to use. But you can use any of them. All the files should be in the same place. Also if you have a Pentium 4 or an Athlon XP then there are stages that have been compiled for your processor and they will make you run a little faster.


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Re: help installing Gentoo Linux [Re: nife]
    #3671629 - 01/24/05 10:52 AM (12 years, 6 months ago)

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nife said:
Besiades gentoo has some of the most helpful people of any distro in the forums.  They rarely answer any question with read the man pages to any question, even the really newb stuff.



That's part of the problem, in my opinion, and contributes to a large number of gentoo users being helpless and lazy.  But I don't wish to get into a holy war today, :sun: on


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Re: help installing Gentoo Linux [Re: delta9]
    #3671652 - 01/24/05 11:07 AM (12 years, 6 months ago)

YUMMY! Breakfast is ready, but you don't have time to eat because it's time to update everything, including GCC, which also means a complete recompilation of everything.

Not if you use a live CD and download the latest stuff as you go. Gentoo is actually a fairly quick install if you do a stage 3, compiling EVERYTHING certainly isn't the performance boost various idiots claim it is, but there's a kind of meaningless satisfaction to it.

Portage is pretty much a slightly primitive apt-get, which means it's a better package management system than anything other than Debian.

Gentoo is kind of like Debian for people with too much free time. If you like playing around with your computer and spending some time solving various issues, it's actually a lot of fun. If you get frustrated and are really just trying to get some work done, Debian might be a better bet.

In short, Gentoo is kind of overhyped by enthusiastic kids who want to think of themselves as uberl33t for installing it, but it's a fairly solid distro, even if it's not quite ready for prime-time.

In many ways, I think Gentoo might be the best first timer linux distro, simply because you're guaranteed to run into a few issues, and you're going to be forced to learn a handful of linux concepts.


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Re: help installing Gentoo Linux [Re: Phluck]
    #3672266 - 01/24/05 02:05 PM (12 years, 6 months ago)

Note a "handful of linux concepts".  Watching compiler output for hours on end does not make you a linux guru overnight.

:heart: debian :heart:


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