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An outdoor grow method?
    #3665181 - 01/23/05 12:52 AM (11 years, 10 months ago)

Hi, i was reading up and saw moe's outdoor growing method....i was wondering if i could actually grow a bulk amount of shrooms outside..and if i do what kind is best used? for temperatures between 65-100 degrees...i know i will have to make the cakes inside....but how many cakes should i make and how big of a hole should i make...to produce upwards of a pound of dried shroooms...i really wanna do this come summer time so i have plenty of time to await your responses....thanks


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Re: An outdoor grow method? [Re: MontyRev]
    #3665224 - 01/23/05 12:59 AM (11 years, 10 months ago)

Try searching the forums. I would suggest reading bulk indoor cultivation for yields. etc etc...I've been poking around here for a couple of months... there's a lot already written about what you've asked. I'd say a 2'x2' area would yield that much (and even a little more than that if done properly), indoors (outdoors would be comparable), grown on straw and dung (psilocibe cubensis). (Mods, if you read this feel free to correct me up or down on that number.) Also, grain spawn would be easier than cakes...cause you'd haveta grind up cakes. Try getting pre-sterilized grain spawn from one of the shroomery's sponsors if you're interested....but keep reading.
Profit is a good thing, and can motivate people to a point, however, it is like growing a plant, or being a farmer. There is always risk, and in the end you really need to enjoy the process to get the most out of it. Everything else is just a bonus.


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Re: An outdoor grow method? [Re: chocbruce]
    #3666428 - 01/23/05 04:44 AM (11 years, 10 months ago)

i'm also intentioned to grow outdoor, and i read that january and february is the right time to start thinking of it practically. so i have a question: when you say "dung" you mean cow or horse shit, right? should i prefer fresh shit or dry shit? and what shall i do with it? pressure cook, maybe, in the same cooker i use for my food? uhmmm...


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Re: An outdoor grow method? [Re: lepiota]
    #3666817 - 01/23/05 07:02 AM (11 years, 10 months ago)

Dry.
If you are going to use it outdoors, just soak it, there is no need for further threatment.


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Re: An outdoor grow method? [Re: Anno]
    #3666858 - 01/23/05 07:24 AM (11 years, 10 months ago)

thanx anno, since you are the author of the tek i was referring to, i'm happy that it was you to answer. but your tek is about growing azurescens on wood chips, i was planning to grow cubensis. do you think i need dung for cubensis or can i do it with woodchips as well? and another question: your timetable is based on an annual cycle, while people on this forum just wait the right climate and the whole cycle is about 1 month, so shall i start the home phase now for going outdoor in spring or wait a little more and have everything done in spring/summer?


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Re: An outdoor grow method? [Re: lepiota]
    #3667190 - 01/23/05 11:52 AM (11 years, 10 months ago)

azures use wood, psilos use grains. a good millett birdseed cake then spawned to dung would work great


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popcorn substrate [Re: clueless]
    #3667387 - 01/23/05 01:04 PM (11 years, 10 months ago)

okay using the pocorn method...do i use the kernals instead of vermiculite? and just use straight of kernals??
and when they are done colonized....how do i prepare my hole in the ground outside to begin fruiting them??


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Re: popcorn substrate [Re: MontyRev]
    #3667414 - 01/23/05 01:14 PM (11 years, 10 months ago)

yes, just the kernels, I remember reading in one of Joshua's posts about his garden, eventually I think he had around 6" of substrate, but he dug out a couple extra inches, put down a layer of perlite with one of those weed cloths over that with the substrate on top of that. Hope it helps


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Re: An outdoor grow method? [Re: MontyRev]
    #3667457 - 01/23/05 01:25 PM (11 years, 10 months ago)

The "A" strain does very well for outdoor grows.
Very forgiving, has large fruits with thick stems.

There is a good outdoor log for you to read.
Click here!~

Good luck!~


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Re: An outdoor grow method? [Re: Roadkill]
    #3667468 - 01/23/05 01:27 PM (11 years, 10 months ago)

yea, one of the best ones I've seen, he's got a couple threads if you check his other main posts.


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Re: An outdoor grow method? [Re: Roadkill]
    #3667471 - 01/23/05 01:29 PM (11 years, 10 months ago)

I have a question reguarding outdoor growing:
Lets say you're a lazy (Also a dick) person like me. Do you sterilze your compost even though its gonna be grown outside? It seems to me like cows/elephants/bovines etc. don't sterilize their poo, yet shrooms seem to pop up in it anyways.

The compost I'm refering to is Scotts 3n1. Has anyone had success growing outside w/o sterilizing their bulk sub?


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Re: An outdoor grow method? [Re: MycoJunkie]
    #3667501 - 01/23/05 01:41 PM (11 years, 10 months ago)

well so far I haven't got into outdoors yet but I've been reading for a while and want to get started as soon as the f'n snow goes away.
I've seen successful posts about outdoors saying that it is or isn't necessary. I do remember that someone said that if you sterilize poo is isn't as contam resistant as if you just pasteurized. They way I doo things, I would rather be safe than sorry, so even if it is outside I would still pasteurize.


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Re: An outdoor grow method? [Re: metasin]
    #3667608 - 01/23/05 02:07 PM (11 years, 10 months ago)

Quote:

recondite said:
yea, one of the best ones I've seen, he's got a couple threads if you check his other main posts.



Joshua is a top notch mycologist...IMHO

I have a list of about 20 mycologists that I look up to...he is on that list.
Anno, Workman, Una, mycofile, pleezr, Joshua, CLuB99, SixTango :wink:, eatyualive, Olgualion, Alien, hippie3, agar, Shirl and plus several others that I just can't think of at this time (brain fart)...lol
If you have the time...do a search on each person...and read all their posts...I have.

Any information that Joshua posts is well worth reading.
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I have met him several times...very smart young man with a great heart.
He is always welcomed in my home.


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Re: An outdoor grow method? [Re: Roadkill]
    #3667649 - 01/23/05 02:19 PM (11 years, 10 months ago)

sterilize the substrate???
you mean crush it and let it soak in water for 24 hours....then boil it for an hour??then drain it for 30mins....then put in canning jar....then boil canning jar with substrate in it??


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Re: An outdoor grow method? [Re: MontyRev]
    #3667714 - 01/23/05 02:36 PM (11 years, 10 months ago)

the professer posted an outdoor grow method over in advanced cultivation a while ago, give it a search


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Re: An outdoor grow method? [Re: MontyRev]
    #3667731 - 01/23/05 02:40 PM (11 years, 10 months ago)

Quote:

MontyRev said:
sterilize the substrate???
you mean crush it and let it soak in water for 24 hours....then boil it for an hour??then drain it for 30mins....then put in canning jar....then boil canning jar with substrate in it??




Sterilize it...as in Pressure cook it.
Don't pressure cook poo!~

Pasturize it.

There really isn't a need to pasturize it in outdoor grows.
I would suggest leaching(soaking) it though.

Good luck!~


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Re: An outdoor grow method? [Re: Roadkill]
    #3668260 - 01/23/05 04:54 PM (11 years, 10 months ago)

soo take all my substrate i made....and put it in a pressure cooker?


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Re: An outdoor grow method? [Re: MontyRev]
    #3668289 - 01/23/05 05:03 PM (11 years, 10 months ago)

No


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riiight [Re: Roadkill]
    #3668408 - 01/23/05 05:25 PM (11 years, 10 months ago)

okay so i put all the cans i made.....and then put it in the cooker...
now lets fast forward.....i make cakes....and wanna put them outside....how do i layer the ground


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Re: riiight [Re: MontyRev]
    #3668494 - 01/23/05 05:41 PM (11 years, 10 months ago)

i guess what i really need to know is what do i put the cakes onto....so they can grow and fruit....also....can i take the cakes out and put them in a plastic tub....and put them in say an attic???


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