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OfflineGrantShady2
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a patch in Kauai (help!)
    #366449 - 08/03/01 06:31 PM (22 years, 6 months ago)

I found a pretty large collection of small, light brown mushrooms in the lawn in front of the house I am vacationing at in Kauai. Some of the shrooms in the grass are turning a dark blue on their stem and cap. I picked a couple that did not exhibit any blue at all, crushed part of them, and put them on a white paper towel. I checked back a couple hours later and where they were bruised (stem and cap) they had turned a dark blue, and a light blue had been "leaked" onto the paper towel where they lay. The gills look dark brown/rusty and I tried to do a rudimentary spore print on the paper towel and the print area looks the same color as the gills, and a lot of blue from the staining, and a little bit purple which could just be a mix of the other two colors. They look very much like this picture of Psilocybe semilanceata Liberty Caps (http://www.erowid.org/plants/mushrooms/safe-pik/p_semilanceata8.shtml) and this one of Psilocybe pelliculosa (http://www.erowid.org/plants/mushrooms/safe-pik/p_pelliculosa1.shtml). I am guessing they are pelliculosa because none of them have the really droopy cap of some of the Liberty Cap pictures I have seen. I took a bunch of high resolution pictures, but I forgot the USB cord to attach my camera to my laptop. The lawn I found them on is about 50-70 feet from the ocean. What I need to know, is how can I be sure these are not poisonous? Can anyone help? Thanks!



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Re: a patch in Kauai (help!) [Re: GrantShady2]
    #366461 - 08/03/01 07:08 PM (22 years, 6 months ago)

I just wanted to add that the older ones seems to have caps that get very dark blue or black, get all "cracked" looking, and get somewhat glossy looking. These are older ones that are still in the ground. Thanks again!



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Re: a patch in Kauai (help!) [Re: GrantShady2]
    #366527 - 08/03/01 10:39 PM (22 years, 6 months ago)

hmm, neither of those speceis grow there, but it DOES sound like you have a magic mushroom what color was the gills/print?

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Re: a patch in Kauai (help!) [Re: GrantShady2]
    #366854 - 08/04/01 07:06 PM (22 years, 6 months ago)

Those features (cracked cap & deep bluing) sure sound like Copelandia cyanescens, a very potent species common in Hawaii. But the spores should be BLACK--check again. Go look at the Copelandia pics on Mushroom John's site & see how they match up.

I think you got lucky!



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Re: a patch in Kauai (help!) [Re: Woodsman]
    #366945 - 08/04/01 10:03 PM (22 years, 6 months ago)

That's the same conclusion I came to about an hour ago Woodsman. The spores print could really be black, there is just a lot of blue in the way. What could I possibly be confusing them with that could be poisonous?



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Re: a patch in Kauai (help!) [Re: GrantShady2]
    #366950 - 08/04/01 10:07 PM (22 years, 6 months ago)

Also Woodsman, they look pretty much identical to the pictures I have seen of the Copelandias. What could I be confusing them with possibly?



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Re: a patch in Kauai (help!) [Re: GrantShady2]
    #367108 - 08/05/01 08:30 AM (22 years, 6 months ago)

Copelandia mushrooms grow out of manure and turn blue within five moinutes of handling. They rqrely grow in lawns. and then only one or two. check my site :

http://mjshroomer.yage.net/articles.html for the Hawaiian shrooms.

Mjshroomer
It does not take an hour to dry them and I have never seen blue on any paper I ever dried Copelandia mushrooms on. And I have picked over one million of them in twelve years of living in Hawaii.

have a shroomy day,

mj

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Re: a patch in Kauai (help!) [Re: mjshroomer]
    #368031 - 08/07/01 01:24 AM (22 years, 6 months ago)

A million of the sweet bastards? Compared to my big fuckin ZERO? Damn, I wish I was you.

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Re: a patch in Kauai (help!) [Re: pyromaniac]
    #368037 - 08/07/01 01:32 AM (22 years, 6 months ago)

i agree. although i prefer to nurture them myself as i grow them a million is a lot.

"It tastes like...burning.." -Ralph Wiggum.

>If you are not wasted, then the day is.<




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Darlene: "Ted, I got you this new nose plug to stop you from snoring at night."
Ted: "Uh yeah, and I got you this paper bag to stop you from looking like James Brown in the Morning."
Darlene: "Oh come now, I don't look anything like James Brown."
Ted: "Hey kids, who does your mom look like in the morning?"
Kids... in unison: "James Brown!"
Darlene, "All right, thats enough... It's poison spaghetti for dinner tonight."


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