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American Concentration Camps
    #3662990 - 01/22/05 04:29 PM (12 years, 1 month ago)

Was just wondering if anyone else out there has heard of, or been following some of the info about the FEMA camps that are (supposedly) being quietly set up around the US? These programs have names like Rex 84(using closed military bases for camps), Garden Plot(population control), and Cable Splicer(orderly takeover of the state and local government by the federal government).


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Re: American Concentration Camps [Re: Xygyg]
    #3663048 - 01/22/05 04:47 PM (12 years, 1 month ago)

Are they anything like the previous American concentration camps that America set up to put the completely legal Japanese American citizens in?

The Nazis didn't lose the war, they just had to switch countries. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_paperclip

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Under the heading of "civil disturbance planning", the U.S. military is training troops and police to suppress democratic opposition in America. The master plan, Department of Defense Civil Disturbance Plan 55-2, is code-named, "Operation Garden Plot". Originated in 1968, the "operational plan" has been updated over the last three decades, most recently in 1991. The plan was activated during the Los Angeles "riots" of 1992, and more than likely during the recent anti-WTO "Battle in Seattle."

Current U.S. military preparations for suppressing domestic civil disturbance, including the training of National Guard troops and police, are part of a long history of American "internal security" measures dating back to the first American Revolution. Generally, these measures have sought to thwart the aims of social justice movements, embodying the concept that within the civilian body politic lurks an enemy that one day the military might have to fight, or at least be ordered to fight.

Equipped with flexible "military operations in urban terrain" and "operations other than war" doctrine, lethal and "less-than-lethal" high-tech weaponry, US "armed forces" and "elite" militarized police units are being trained to eradicate "disorder", "disturbance" and "civil disobedience" in America. Further, it may very well be that police/military "civil disturbance" planning is the animating force and the overarching logic behind the incredible nationwide growth of police paramilitary units, a growth which coincidentally mirrors rising levels of police violence directed at the American people, particularly "non-white" poor and working people.

Military spokespeople, "judge advocates" (lawyers) and their congressional supporters aggressively take the position that legal obstacles to military involvement in domestic law enforcement civil disturbance operations, such as the 1878 Posse Comitatus Act, have been nullified. Legislated "exceptions" and private commercialization of various aspects of U.S. military-law enforcement efforts have supposedly removed their activities from the legal reach of the "public domain". Possibly illegal, ostensible "training" scenarios like the recent "Operation Urban Warrior" no-notice "urban terrain" war games, which took place in dozens of American cities, are thinly disguised "civil disturbance suppression" exercises. Meanwhile, President Clinton recently appointed a "domestic military czar", a sort of national chief of police. You can bet that he is well versed in Garden Plot requirements involved in "homeland defense".

Ominously, many assume that the training of military and police forces to suppress "outlawed" behavior of citizens, along with the creation of extensive and sophisticated "emergency" social response networks set to spring into action in the event of "civil unrest", is prudent and acceptable in a democracy. And yet, does not this assumption beg the question as to what civil unrest is? One could argue for example, that civil disturbance is nothing less than democracy in action, a message to the powers-that-be that the people want change. In this instance "disturbing behavior" may actually be the exercising of ones' right to resist oppression. Unfortunately, the American corporate/military directorship, which has the power to enforce its' definition of "disorder", sees democracy as a threat and permanent counter-revolution as a "national security" requirement.



http://www.whatreallyhappened.com/suppression

Interesting. Do you have any information on these?


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Re: American Concentration Camps [Re: Ravus]
    #3663085 - 01/22/05 04:57 PM (12 years, 1 month ago)

I only have a couple of things--one is from a sight with the X-File-ish name 'AboveTopSecret.com', and the other I found at democracyunbound.com. I not quite sure what the plans for these places are, but I have a sinking feeling that we will find out after another major "terrorist attack".

There is so much about all of this that we don't know about...you could speculate forever.


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Re: American Concentration Camps [Re: Xygyg]
    #3663100 - 01/22/05 05:02 PM (12 years, 1 month ago)

Why is Great_Satan not here to tell us that we, the psychotic drug addicts, are the ones who will be filling these camps? :eyemouth:


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Re: American Concentration Camps [Re: Xygyg]
    #3663106 - 01/22/05 05:03 PM (12 years, 1 month ago)

On the event of another major "terrorist attack" we will go to 'Code Red' on the terror alert chart thingy. Once that happens FEMA and NorCom override control of the Federal government, Constitutional rights are revoked, and marshall law will result. These concentration camps are most likely used to jail any political opposition, or uprisings.


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Re: American Concentration Camps [Re: DNKYD]
    #3663137 - 01/22/05 05:10 PM (12 years, 1 month ago)

They should have a code brown, signaling everyone in the country to shit themselves. :ass: :poop:


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Re: American Concentration Camps [Re: SWEDEN]
    #3663154 - 01/22/05 05:15 PM (12 years, 1 month ago)

Hopefully this scenario is not an inevitable outcome. If faced with a situation like this, I believe that the people will actively (and violently) resist.


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Re: American Concentration Camps [Re: SWEDEN]
    #3663175 - 01/22/05 05:19 PM (12 years, 1 month ago)

We seem to be in a perpetual state of code brown!  :shocked:


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Re: American Concentration Camps [Re: Xygyg]
    #3663196 - 01/22/05 05:25 PM (12 years, 1 month ago)

I read an article somewhere but I haven't been able to find a link to it. It said that there are a substantial number of foreign military troops already training and residing on American soil. These will most likely be used to disband any opposition to marshall law.


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Re: American Concentration Camps [Re: DNKYD]
    #3663230 - 01/22/05 05:34 PM (12 years, 1 month ago)

I'm sure this is probably old news to some, but I also came across
'The Proposed Constitution for the NEWSTATES of AMERICA'

"This new constitution would replace the present U.S. Constitution and would dissolve the States as we know them into Newstates, "each comprising no less than 5 percent of the whole population." This new constitution with its regional government would bring about an oligarchy at the expense of our Constitutional Republic. This form of dictatorship that is planned for America would bring into even more prominence and power the crowd who wants a "New World Order."

This proposed constitution is, in itself, a vehicle for the transition from our proven, tried and true, divinely-ordained Constitution to the New World Order that man, in his own efforts, hopes to impose upon mankind. "

This is a pretty huge thing--the overseers of all of this are so far beyond anyone's reach.


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Re: American Concentration Camps [Re: Xygyg]
    #3663238 - 01/22/05 05:36 PM (12 years, 1 month ago)

Do you have a link to that? Seems interesting.


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Re: American Concentration Camps [Re: DNKYD]
    #3663255 - 01/22/05 05:39 PM (12 years, 1 month ago)

Yeah, i've heard that too. They're training them at places like the School of the Americas.


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Re: American Concentration Camps [Re: Xygyg]
    #3663261 - 01/22/05 05:42 PM (12 years, 1 month ago)



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Re: American Concentration Camps [Re: DNKYD]
    #3663286 - 01/22/05 05:48 PM (12 years, 1 month ago)

The whole "Newstates" Constitution is at http://weba.viawest.net/users/comminc/Constitution_1.html


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Re: American Concentration Camps [Re: Ravus]
    #3663428 - 01/22/05 06:35 PM (12 years, 1 month ago)

I've seen pictures of these camps on websites, from what I understand there have been a few newspaper articles about the subject in local newspapers around where they are actually situated. Who knows what the camps are for though, someone has been preparing for something big though thats for sure.


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Re: American Concentration Camps [Re: J4S0N]
    #3663517 - 01/22/05 06:56 PM (12 years, 1 month ago)

Its all pretty unsettling. How can we fight against something like this if we don't even know who or what we are fighting.


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Re: American Concentration Camps [Re: Xygyg]
    #3664239 - 01/22/05 09:48 PM (12 years, 1 month ago)

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Xygyg said:
Its all pretty unsettling. How can we fight against something like this if we don't even know who or what we are fighting.




Maybe their isn't a "who" or a "what". Maybe it's bullshit.


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Re: American Concentration Camps [Re: SoopaX]
    #3664281 - 01/22/05 09:55 PM (12 years, 1 month ago)

Yup, it's all bullshit. The terror alert, the FEMA and NorCom takeover of the government, the concentration camps. It's all bullshit, so don't worry 'bout it.


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Re: American Concentration Camps [Re: DNKYD]
    #3664422 - 01/22/05 10:34 PM (12 years, 1 month ago)

spelling bee:

"martial law"

"courts martial"

mars was god of war; soldiers can follow (& give) orders better than "mere civilians" so i hear...

maybe we can just declare the bush family members czars for life & sign away the remnants of the constitution & the bill of rights, & let the puppetmasters get on with their plans for world domination, eh?

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Re: American Concentration Camps [Re: gnrm23]
    #3664583 - 01/22/05 11:13 PM (12 years, 1 month ago)

That's definitely an option...not one i'd like to choose.
This is a situation where those in power want to impose their will on the poor, ignorant masses--its an issue of control I think.
We, the poor, ignorant MAJORITY, are what keep their world turning.


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