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Offlinerecalcitrant
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    #3662930 - 01/22/05 04:11 PM (12 years, 6 months ago)

sorry no pics,

foaf got these 2" square "tinfoil" containers from tha grocery store for casings. 0.5" coir, 1.25" wbs, 0.25 coir/verm (70/30ish).

a week or two later on the outside of the thin metal dishes, a green mold seems to have eaten through (either from the inside or the outside, who knows) and fukt the casings. there are half centimeter holes that look like they have been melted away; bubbles of metal with green mold all over.

Has anyone seen contams eat through metal b4?
should foaf splurge and get those solid containers (are they for making bread)?


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Re: pissed off w/ cheap shit [Re: recalcitrant]
    #3662950 - 01/22/05 04:19 PM (12 years, 6 months ago)

Your contam problem isn't relative to the tinfoil pans at all, but if it makes you feel better, use the solid metal baking pans or a dark tupperware in the future :smile:


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Re: pissed off w/ cheap shit [Re: Holydiver]
    #3663037 - 01/22/05 04:44 PM (12 years, 6 months ago)

Sprinkle some parmajean cheese on a sheet of tinfoil, scattered like ants.

Put in fridge, and wait for one day...

Does that look similar?

If not, try wrapping a chunk of that cheese in a thin layer of foil and wait for a day again!


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Re: pissed off w/ cheap shit [Re: LaughingJim]
    #3663075 - 01/22/05 04:54 PM (12 years, 6 months ago)

jim....lol. i donno...ur crazy, stop being so...professional and right

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Re: pissed off w/ cheap shit [Re: IGnosticAbhorI]
    #3664009 - 01/22/05 08:38 PM (12 years, 6 months ago)

Contams didn't eat the aluminum. Acid did. Did you buffer your casing mix?


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Re: pissed off w/ cheap shit [Re: recalcitrant]
    #3666236 - 01/23/05 03:57 AM (12 years, 6 months ago)

I haven't seen green eat threw em but I have seen myc eat threw em. More likely the myc ate holes threw it then the green got to em.


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Re: pissed off w/ cheap shit [Re: Magash]
    #3666449 - 01/23/05 04:51 AM (12 years, 6 months ago)

Quote:

I haven't seen green eat threw em but I have seen myc eat threw em. More likely the myc ate holes threw it then the green got to em.



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Yeah, tinfoil pans suck.  You willl never be able to reuse them.  Buy some decent shit or black garden pans or even garbage bags if your broke.


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Re: pissed off w/ cheap shit [Re: DirtMcgirt]
    #3667526 - 01/23/05 01:47 PM (12 years, 6 months ago)

You can also use this method to test for possible "Undesireable" mixes.

Make a "BRF Meatball" or "WBS Meatball" wrapped in foil. If the foil degrades within 1 day to 7 days, you may not be safe to use that substrate for spores. (It may ferment long before 100% colonization.)

Go to any pet store and buy some crushed oyster shells. The brand that I purchase is called, "(Ultra-Care) (8in1) (Oyster Shells)". This is 35% calcium from oyster shells. The shells also act like a PH buffer, only changing the PH to a more neutral state, as opposed to "LIME" which will turn PH(X) into PH(Y) by volume. (Hard to get it right with lime.

I buy 10oz. for $3.00, which seems to work well. I use about 2 table spoons for a batch that makes 10 jars. (More will not hurt.)

It turns my BRF/WBS/VERM mix into a substance that eats foil in one day, into a substance that eats foil in two weeks. (Which is perfect for me...)

NOTE: Even a pure "Netural PH" will eat through foil after 2 weeks. The CO2 in the air will be absorbed by the water and turn acidic. (Carbonic acid), and cause the foil to oxidise. (One week is un-natural degridation.)

I wonder if throwing aluminum foil into the brf mix would help to neutralize the CO2 development, and acidic content... After all, the process of oxidation converts acids/bases into neutral oxidation, doesn't it! I will have to play around with that.

That would be cool... foil plugs that you just insert into substrate after they are colonized. Just throw a few hundred into one big incubation jar, and pump fresh/filtered/heated/humidified air into the jar... No CO2 and the positive pressure will stop contams from entering. (Possible potential)


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Re: pissed off w/ cheap shit [Re: LaughingJim]
    #3667679 - 01/23/05 02:26 PM (12 years, 6 months ago)

Cool idea jim, but if you are pumping air into a container anyhow, odds look good that you are already displacing the CO2 :smile:


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Re: pissed off w/ cheap shit [Re: LaughingJim]
    #3668242 - 01/23/05 04:47 PM (12 years, 6 months ago)

special thanks all


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