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InvisiblePaou
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Treason is patriotic
    #3656926 - 01/21/05 02:39 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)

I find it interesting that after committing high treason against the English crown, the founding fathers made treason a high crime specifically listed in the Constitution, yet also made treason easier to commit with the 2nd ammendment. They seem to have recognized that governments sometimes need to be overthrown, but that government still needs to protect itself against such acts. I guess they figured that if enough gun-owning Americans rose up against the government that it would be unable to defend itself, so a sort of "democratic treason" which is supported by a large enough portion of the population would be possible.


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Re: Treason is patriotic [Re: Paou]
    #3656947 - 01/21/05 02:47 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)

I thought that was the rationale behind the second amendment, but now I'm pretty sure at that point the idea of a standing US army did not yet exist and they were modelling the system after the Swiss. In Switzerland back then there was no army, but everyone was required to carry a gun to defend the country.

However, the founders were pretty paranoid of tyranny so that might also be true to some degree. In this case, if the country is governed by the people, and the people as a whole reject the government as they did in 1776, then insurrection is legitimate and not really treason. Militia guys in Montana are not.


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Re: Treason is patriotic [Re: Divided_Sky]
    #3665530 - 01/23/05 01:49 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)

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Divided_Sky said:
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In this case, if the country is governed by the people, and the people as a whole reject the government as they did in 1776, then insurrection is legitimate and not really treason. Militia guys in Montana are not.




Review the post where mushmaster and Alex123 discussed the meaning of a militia. The founding fathers stated that any man between the age of 18 and 42 was, simply by being an American, a member of the militia. Sounds pretty legitimate to me.


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