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OfflineFluxburn
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Liver protection
    #3653898 - 01/20/05 04:33 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

I heard awhile ago of an substance developed for the strengthening of the liver for patients with a history of liver disease. I was interested in liver replenishing drugs for my alcoholic and other issues, lol. I am not to worried, it would just be nice to have something to protect the liver some more for bringe drinking, etc.


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Re: Liver protection [Re: Fluxburn]
    #3654003 - 01/20/05 04:51 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

Milk Thistle is the main and well known liver function booster, although there are a handful of others.


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Re: Liver protection [Re: dblaney]
    #3655945 - 01/20/05 11:19 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

Right, but don't forget the Coenzyme Q10 which tends to become depleted in taxed livers.

Fluxburn - you're gonna get more than gastric reflux and heartburn with binge drinking. Binge drinking already reveals one pattern of alcoholism. Prevention is the only way out, there is no cure for damaged livers. Take care of yer health bud.


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Re: Liver protection [Re: Fluxburn]
    #3656413 - 01/21/05 12:54 AM (12 years, 10 months ago)

thanks for the milk thislt tip, i think im gonna go out and buy a bottle

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Re: Liver protection [Re: MrBump]
    #3656631 - 01/21/05 01:38 AM (12 years, 10 months ago)

Take burdock root, and dandelion root in conjunction with milk thistle. Your liver will be operating very well, it may even cause your metabolism to increase.


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Re: Liver protection [Re: blacksabbathrulz]
    #3656795 - 01/21/05 02:08 AM (12 years, 10 months ago)

thanks for the advice.

i have seen milk thistle on the shelves of most pharmacies, is burdock root also widely available? i have never heard of it.


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Re: Liver protection [Re: Fluxburn]
    #3656842 - 01/21/05 02:18 AM (12 years, 10 months ago)

There are a couple of supplements that may be worth looking into. I'm currently taking one called SAM-e (S-adenosylmethionine) specifically for the potential liver benefits. I'm not quite sold on it yet, however. It's pretty expensive ($35/month or more), but I got two months supply free, so I'll be doing some research in the meantime.

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SAMe, the amazing "super-nutrient," can single-handedly normalize liver function. How? SAMe is the central player in liver biochemistry. It does two crucial things: It methylates, and it transforms itself into the liver's most vital substance, glutathione.

The liver contains the third highest amount of SAMe in the body, after the adrenal and pineal glands. SAMe is so important for liver function that it can be considered an essential nutrient for that organ. In addition to its many other functions, SAMe plays a leading role in liver regeneration. The liver has special SAMe enzymes just for regenerating tissue.

http://www.lef.org/magazine/mag97/june-report972.html




RU-21 (aka The KGB Pill) is another possibility. I haven't decided if it's worth trying, but it seems interesting. A pill is supposed to be taken before each drink, so it could get expensive as well. It's not supposed to affect how drunk you get and claims to help prevent hangovers, while protecting the liver.

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RU-21 balances alcohol metabolism by slowing down the process of ethanol oxidation into acetaldehyde, so less acetaldehyde occurs in the first place. It then speeds up the process of acetaldehyde decomposition into acetic acid, and then into water and carbon dioxide, which are harmless. RU-21 also helps the body balance the metabolic processes in liver, heart and brain cells and increases oxygen absorption by cells. As a result, RU-21 prevents acetaldehyde from causing damage to vital organs and functions of the body, and also reduces alcohol cravings and prevents the dreaded hangovers.

http://www.prweb.com/releases/2003/10/prweb85398.php





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RU-21 is a safe and effective dietary supplement made up of Monosodium Glutamate, Succinic Acid, Fumaric Acid, Vitamin C and Glucose (Dextrose). It contains no wheat, yeast, binders, preservatives, granulators or disintegrators.

http://www.ru-21.co.uk/faq.asp




Here's another article and the main website:

http://www.sundayherald.com/38923
http://www.ru21.com/

So does anyone have any experience with either of them? Any ideas, opinions or proof positive or negative about the benefits they claim?


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Re: Liver protection [Re: Fluxburn]
    #3656864 - 01/21/05 02:24 AM (12 years, 10 months ago)

The ru21 stuff is worthless from my experience. I tested it for drinking, got trashed and the next day I had a nasty hangover like usual. No difference whatsoever taking 2 pills before drinking and 2 after.


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Re: Liver protection [Re: Fluxburn]
    #3656902 - 01/21/05 02:33 AM (12 years, 10 months ago)

I figured it'd be hit-or-miss at best with the hangovers, but I'm still curious about the supposed liver benefits. Is there anything legit about the science behind it?


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Re: Liver protection [Re: MrBump]
    #3656965 - 01/21/05 02:53 AM (12 years, 10 months ago)

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thecornking said:
thanks for the advice.

i have seen milk thistle on the shelves of most pharmacies, is burdock root also widely available? i have never heard of it.




Its not too widely available, but if you go to a whole foods store you should be able to find it no problem.


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Re: Liver protection [Re: Fluxburn]
    #3657019 - 01/21/05 03:16 AM (12 years, 10 months ago)

Ah, I will try that milk crap, but that KGB crap is just some commercial scam. This reminds me of crest and all those Ultrasonic tooth brushes, which is hillarious. The reason why its so funny is in other parts of the world, like Asia they don't even brush their teeth.So literally, they are expanding to new markets in asia. I love American consumerism, now everyone has a goddamn car alarm. I am sorry, my car has never been stolen and if it was the alarm aint doing to much good.

This country literally is just a big commerical, selling crack to babies! Well it isn't crack, but they way they advertise to children, it might as well just be crack. I remember my Mom spending tons of money on my stupid toys, whatever I wanted. This society is so sick, so materialistic sometimes. I love the stupid woman that drives around with the new audi a4 with the shinny glasses like she is the shit. I think its funny because the people who have the nicer cars don't flaunt the shit like they are all so cool. Wait it wasn't even an audi a4, it was a vw passat. You got to love people, I am cool because I have a car and shinny glasses. I mean my parents have way nicer cars then that, but they don't try to look all super cool with some futuristic, almost gay glasses.


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Re: Liver protection [Re: Fluxburn]
    #3657177 - 01/21/05 04:05 AM (12 years, 10 months ago)

THere is a supplement/milk thistle derivative called, "Silymarin," if I'm correct on the spelling.  Might not be.  I'm drunk.  CHeck yerselfs.  Elfs. :cheers:


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Re: Liver protection [Re: Fluxburn]
    #3657354 - 01/21/05 06:10 AM (12 years, 10 months ago)

This is what you have been looking for: (please read carefully)

Aloe vera for Alcoholism


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Re: Liver protection [Re: Sterile]
    #3658067 - 01/21/05 01:03 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

OK, how do you administer aloe vera into your system?
the article didnt touch on product names....


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Re: Liver protection [Re: Fluxburn]
    #3658556 - 01/21/05 03:30 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

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Fluxburn said:
I heard awhile ago of an substance developed for the strengthening of the liver for patients with a history of liver disease. I was interested in liver replenishing drugs for my alcoholic and other issues, lol. I am not to worried, it would just be nice to have something to protect the liver some more for bringe drinking, etc.




If you're binge drinking on a consistent basis a supplement isn't going to lessen the damage you do much at all.


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Re: Liver protection [Re: MrBump]
    #3658854 - 01/21/05 04:49 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

You need some good old Ayurvedic healing
you cant argue with 5,000 years of practice
Neem is a good tonic for spring and summer time because of its cooling qualities. For those who drink alcohol it is a must to protect the liver. Not recommended if your are bothered by extreme coldness for it is cooling to the system.
Liver & Spleen Rejuvenation
Botanical ingredients: Herbal Extracts of: Neem leaf (Urtica dioica) Bhumyamalaki (phyllanthus niruri) Guduchi herb (Tinospora cordifolia) Barberry root (Berberris vulgaris) Rhubarb root (Rheum palmatum) Licorice root (Glychyrrhiza glabra) Dandelion root (Taraxacum officinale) Gentain root (Gentiana macrophylla) Gotu Kola herb (Hydrocotyl asiatica) Madder root (Rubia tinctoria) Sarsaparilla root (Smilax) Skullcap herb (Scutellaria) Cumin seed (Cuminum cyminum) Coriander seed (Coriandrum sativum) Milk Thistle seed (Silybum marianum) Bringaraj herb (Eclipta alba)

Herbal Powders of: Amalaki fruit (Emblica officinalis) Turmeric root (Curcuma longa) Cardamom seed (Elettaria cardamomum)

All preserved nicely in Herbal Ghee, to trap the essence, unlike a pill or powder mix.

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Re: Liver protection [Re: MrBump]
    #3660705 - 01/21/05 10:12 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)



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