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InvisibleSinbad
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Forum of the living dead
    #3652353 - 01/20/05 07:07 AM (11 years, 10 months ago)

Im leaving this forum because of how dead it is spiritually, i recently posted a post on Simple Meditation Technique but only had 1 PM from a  practitioner concerning there expereince with actually using the technique. I would expect more people to want to use such a simple mediation technique in a forum about S&P.

Most people here i feel are addcited to intellectual masturbation and although have good hearts and good intentions are flying in the wrong direction. This is why i think this forum has become so negative, people need to be shot down if there flying in the wrong direction, and people have become very good at doing that, it just seems like leaving is the lesson to by learnt here!

I know it seems like im making a gross generalisation, but who here actaully practices what they preach? It feels very cold and lonley in a forum where everyone is talking about their mystical experiences but most are not willing to practice the fundamentals to any spiritual path.

So i am off to do some practice and get on with life. If anyone actaully practices the simple mediattion technique and has some questions relating to their practice PM me today, tomorrow, or the day after to recieve my email address. Also anyone who has PM'd me in the past about personal matters and freindship can PM me for my email if they wish.

I thank you all for clarifying some inteluctual points and allowing me the space and freedom to sharpen my mind and open my heart. Some of you have been quite helpful, and to those who are struggling with problems i wish you all the best and hope that you find your way.

Peace & Respect  :cool:


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Re: Forum of the living dead [Re: Sinbad]
    #3652717 - 01/20/05 10:14 AM (11 years, 10 months ago)

Well, it's sad to see you go. I do agree with some of your points, but remember that although meditation is present on any spiritual path, not all spiritual paths see it as "fundamental", some see it as complementary.
Anyway, i'm not trying to justify the lack of feedback or anything, like you explained, that is a fact.

Peace&Respect :smile:

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Re: Forum of the living dead [Re: MAIA]
    #3652759 - 01/20/05 10:22 AM (11 years, 10 months ago)

I must admit you have been a huge challenge, go in peace and return if it fits.

yours may be the 3rd dramatic exit declaration this week.

maybe this really is the most bodhisattva-like thing you can do for yourself.

anyway try to keep things open-ended, the labels are just for convenience.


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Re: Forum of the living dead [Re: MAIA]
    #3652814 - 01/20/05 10:31 AM (11 years, 10 months ago)

Ypp i agree meditation is not fundamental to the spiritual path, but correct view of the spiritual path is absolutley fundamental to the spiritual path, and i see little evidence of that on this forum.

Most seem to have worked in there own ideas, philosophies and delusions into the mix turning something that was fundamentally pure into a pile of shit!

They then ignorantly feed this shit to open minded people who are seeking a spiritual path, filling them with shit who then perpetuate the cylce of bullshit.

I thank all the people who shoot down such wrong directionaly flying birds and attempt to correct their views, whilst helping open minded people to come to a true path, you are the true spiritual warriors and am glad you are here to do so.

Unfortunatley i have other matters in my life that require my urgent attention, so my time here is on hold, i may well come back if only to guide the truth seekers through the valley of darkness which is this forum.

Peace & Respect to everyone!

:smile:


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Re: Forum of the living dead [Re: Sinbad]
    #3652833 - 01/20/05 10:41 AM (11 years, 10 months ago)

that's nice


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Re: Forum of the living dead [Re: redgreenvines]
    #3652879 - 01/20/05 11:00 AM (11 years, 10 months ago)

this forum needs more people like you.then maybe people could be spiritualy stimulated.

your post about the simple meditation is the best post ive seen here out of the short time ive been coming.and if i were to go back into the archives i probably wouldnt find much of anything better.


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Re: Forum of the living dead [Re: Sinbad]
    #3652880 - 01/20/05 11:00 AM (11 years, 10 months ago)

Sinbad uses the meditation technique.
It works for Sinbad.
Therefor the meditation technique works for everyone.

Basically what you are saying is ... if we don't use YOUR meditation technique we are not spiritual enough for you.


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Re: Forum of the living dead [Re: BuddahKillah]
    #3652888 - 01/20/05 11:03 AM (11 years, 10 months ago)

its just a simple meditation.


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Re: Forum of the living dead [Re: BuddahKillah]
    #3652900 - 01/20/05 11:09 AM (11 years, 10 months ago)

Please could you bother to read my posts properly! I said that meditation isnt fundamental to the spiritual path, but correct view of the spiritual path is regardless of what terminlogy you use whether christian, buddhist, muslim it doesnt matter, the spiritual path will always be the path of truth! The truth exposes lies like a spotlight shining directly on a hefty pile of shit!


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Re: Forum of the living dead [Re: Sinbad]
    #3652930 - 01/20/05 11:21 AM (11 years, 10 months ago)

Can you tell us your "correct view of the spiritual path"?


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Re: Forum of the living dead [Re: Sinbad]
    #3652934 - 01/20/05 11:22 AM (11 years, 10 months ago)

Some simple meditation will calm you !


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the temptation of the buddha [Re: BuddahKillah]
    #3652958 - 01/20/05 11:36 AM (11 years, 10 months ago)

hopefully this will avoid increase of frustration due to mara.


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    #3652999 - 01/20/05 11:51 AM (11 years, 10 months ago)

When one is seeking the spiritual path its usually our of some sense that something is missing from ones life, a void that needs to be filled, some desire to end suffering.

Wisdom and compassion are essential for establishing a correct view of the spiritual path. If one has wisdom but lacks compassion and vice verser then this is like flying with only one wing. The correct view is to fly with both wings.

Wisdom and compassion are the fundamental aspects of all spiritual paths. One is seeking to free oneself and others from the condition of suffering, but how can this be done. When one observes oneself they discover that they create most of there problems for themselves and that the root of suffering is selfishness. Then the devotee of whatever tradition or no tradition at all uses the methods and skill-full means necessary to overcome obstacles to realization of Buddha nature, god, divine grace <-----(add yours here). There are many skill-full means for overcoming such obstacles such as prayer, chanting, drumming, dancing, meditation, or just direct observation of ones mind.

Of course their are many spiritual paths, each emphasizing there own techniques and skillful means, but essentially it all boils down to wisdom and compassion which are two sides of the same coin and the essence of the individual.

All experiences that arise on the spiritual path whether good, bad, profound, or profoundly mundane, are just experiences and are just manifestations of the essence of the individual.

The source of all goodness comes from compassion, openness, kindness and equanimity. The spiritual path is not religion, religions have their own traditions ,politics,and beliefs, but at the beating heart of religion lies the state of wisdom & compassion.

Their are saints talked about in all religions and traditions that identify with such qualities.

So this is my view of the spiritual path in a very simple, open sense.

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Re: Forum of the living dead [Re: BuddahKillah]
    #3653033 - 01/20/05 12:02 PM (11 years, 10 months ago)

Why is it that you think i am not calm, both you and redgreenvines have made such remarks, I wonder if you are just seeing you own reflection and giving yourself some heartfelt advice?


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Re: Forum of the living dead [Re: Sinbad]
    #3653035 - 01/20/05 12:03 PM (11 years, 10 months ago)

There is a deep dark cave with hundreds of prisoners living in it. They have been raised there since they where born. They do not believe there is anything other than the dark cave. You come upon this cave and find them all inside and tell them you know the way out. At first... they do not believe you. They have no reason to believe you... they have never been outside the cave... why should they believe something else exists. They are actually hostile, they want you to leave, they are negative and dark from being in the cave so damn long.

Do you leave them?


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Re: Forum of the living dead [Re: BuddahKillah]
    #3653041 - 01/20/05 12:04 PM (11 years, 10 months ago)

Please could you bother to read my posts properly(((!))) I said that meditation isnt fundamental to the spiritual path, but correct view of the spiritual path is regardless of what terminlogy you use whether christian, buddhist, muslim it doesnt matter, the spiritual path will always be the path of truth(((!))) The truth exposes lies like a spotlight shining directly on a hefty pile of shit(((! )))

Why would I think you where calm when typing this?


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Re: Forum of the living dead [Re: BuddahKillah]
    #3653057 - 01/20/05 12:11 PM (11 years, 10 months ago)

These are exclamation marks and not indications of emotional anxiety. They are used to emphasise points, and cannot be read to judge someones state of mind.


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Re: Forum of the living dead [Re: Sinbad]
    #3653063 - 01/20/05 12:14 PM (11 years, 10 months ago)

I always thought that the image below was ready for blast off.



maybe it depicts a self fullfilling prophet

my mother would say
"EAT SOMETHING"


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Re: Forum of the living dead [Re: BuddahKillah]
    #3653077 - 01/20/05 12:20 PM (11 years, 10 months ago)

No you dont leave them for good, but i intend to come back with a skeleton key to release all cages. At the moment there are things in my life that need my immediate and undivided attention, in the next few days i am going to be dealing with alot of relative things in my life. Then i am in solitary retreat, perhaps after this i will have more patients and compassion, i need to recharge my spiritual batteries!

Until then adious, goodbeye, and godbless!


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Re: Forum of the living dead [Re: Sinbad]
    #3653083 - 01/20/05 12:22 PM (11 years, 10 months ago)

ex?cla?ma?tion

1. An abrupt, forceful utterance.
2. An outcry, as of protest.
3. Grammar. An interjection.


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