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p4kSouL
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Too much brf?
#3644168 - 01/18/05 04:04 PM (19 years, 2 months ago) |
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What are the consequence's of adding too much brf?
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lemon_lw
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Re: Too much brf? [Re: p4kSouL]
#3644179 - 01/18/05 04:05 PM (19 years, 2 months ago) |
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to dense of a substrate, troubles with colonizing the mycelium.
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ToKa
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Re: Too much brf? [Re: p4kSouL]
#3644180 - 01/18/05 04:05 PM (19 years, 2 months ago) |
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Well hopefully your substrate isnt too dry,or it (the jar) wont colo.
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ticktock
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Re: Too much brf? [Re: ToKa]
#3644614 - 01/18/05 05:46 PM (19 years, 2 months ago) |
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Brf is food. Verm is your canteen. Fruiting stops when the canteen goes dry, or the food is gone, or contamination sets in.
The pf tek gives a good balance of food and water, with a low probability of contamination.
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niteowl
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Re: Too much brf? [Re: ticktock]
#3646548 - 01/18/05 11:27 PM (19 years, 2 months ago) |
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Using a little more brf shouldnt hurt. Doubling it would.
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LaughingJim
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Re: Too much brf? [Re: niteowl]
#3646669 - 01/18/05 11:54 PM (19 years, 2 months ago) |
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How many cheese burgers can you eat before you need a soda?
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lepiota
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i am a real newbie to cultivation, but i believe i had better results with 2:1 than 3:1 (verm:brf of course). original pftek is 3:1 or even 3.5:1. i have to experiment a little more but that is my impression at the moment.
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niteowl
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Re: Too much brf? [Re: lepiota]
#3646947 - 01/19/05 01:09 AM (19 years, 2 months ago) |
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2 part verm 1 part BRF 1 part water
That is the ratios of the PF tek that I read.
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Anno
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Re: Too much brf? [Re: niteowl]
#3647061 - 01/19/05 02:27 AM (19 years, 2 months ago) |
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>2 part verm >1 part BRF >1 part water >That is the ratios of the PF tek that I read.
The classic PFtek provides 2 different formulas, and in addition to this a variable water content.
Standard formula: 1/8 cup of brown rice powder 1/2 - 2/3 cup of vermiculite 40-45 cc's (milliliters) of water
Maximum fruiting formula: 1/4 cup of brown rice powder 1/2 cup of vermiculite 60 cc's water
and the newest update:
1/4 cup of brown rice powder 1/2 cup of vermiculite 45 - 60 ml (cc) water (1/4 cup = 59 ml)
"The water is the crucial element that variates the results. The different brands of vermiculite varies creating differing moisture levels. So as already stated in the PF TEK, one should always vary the water amount, take notes and compare results. The "MAX" water content can really make a great fruiting and give several flushes when the balance between the substrate elements is good."
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lepiota
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Re: Too much brf? [Re: Anno]
#3647181 - 01/19/05 05:23 AM (19 years, 2 months ago) |
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right water content should be 90% to saturation, that is take out one tenth of your dry substrate, add water to the rest until it is saturated (=stops assorbing it) and add the dry tenth to the stuff... correct me if i'm wrong please :-)
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Anno
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Re: Too much brf? [Re: lepiota]
#3647187 - 01/19/05 05:28 AM (19 years, 2 months ago) |
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Sounds about right, or a bit too wet.
The easier way to achieve a perfect substrate is to add water to vermiculite first until saturated, then add the BRF.
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niteowl
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Re: Too much brf? [Re: Anno]
#3647548 - 01/19/05 09:13 AM (19 years, 2 months ago) |
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I have found that a dry/fluffy mix will collonize a little faster. More water can be added to the cakes after collonization by dunking.
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Rockstar69
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Re: Too much brf? [Re: niteowl]
#3648012 - 01/19/05 11:33 AM (19 years, 2 months ago) |
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If u want a lot of brown rice in your sub just use whole grain brown rice instead of rice flour.. Their are a few teks and grow logs floating around here
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ralphster44
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Re: Too much brf? [Re: niteowl]
#3648107 - 01/19/05 12:33 PM (19 years, 2 months ago) |
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Yes...keep it on the dryer side.
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