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InvisibleSwami
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Christianity and Obesity
    #3647191 - 01/19/05 07:33 AM (12 years, 5 months ago)

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Religion and Obesity

If gluttony is a deadly sin, why are higher rates of obesity associated with greater religious dedication? If America is a Christian Nation, why is America the fattest nation in the world? Should American Christians be a little more concerned about gluttony?

Jim Holt writes for the Boston Globe:

According to a 1998 Purdue University study, obesity is associated with higher levels of religious participation. (Broken down by creed, Southern Baptists have the highest body-mass index on average, Catholics are in the middle, and Jews and other non-Christians are the lowest.) When this finding was brought to the attention of the Reverend Jerry Falwell, he was unperturbed. "I know gluttony is a bad thing," Falwell said. "But I don't know many gluttons." That is one way out of the dilemma -- to deny that overweight people are necessarily sinful gluttons. But it could also be that gluttony is not really a sin.

True, maybe gluttony shouldn't be a sin, but at the very least one might wonder why Southern Baptists aren't sending more of the calories to people who don't have enough to eat. Even if gluttony isn't a sin, arguably eating more then you need while others go hungry could be.


Yup folks, in general, Christians do not follow the words from Corinthians:

1 Corinthians 3:16 Know ye not that ye are the temple of God, and that the Spirit of God dwelleth in you?

17 If any man defile the temple of God, him shall God destroy; for the temple of God is holy, which temple ye are.


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Re: Christianity and Obesity [Re: Swami]
    #3647197 - 01/19/05 07:36 AM (12 years, 5 months ago)

thats a pretty biased website don't you think?


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Re: Christianity and Obesity [Re: spudamore]
    #3647209 - 01/19/05 07:46 AM (12 years, 5 months ago)

Purdue University is hardly known for bashing religion nor being atheistically centered and neither is the Boston Globe.

My brother lives near Atlanta and I have been to several Baptists churches in the area. I can say that in general the congregations are markedly rotund to be polite. If they believed in the Bible as they state, they would take their physical health and body maintenance much more seriously.


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Re: Christianity and Obesity [Re: Swami]
    #3647216 - 01/19/05 07:51 AM (12 years, 5 months ago)

how do they know that there isn't the same amount of other people from other religions, and atheists that have obesity?

and why does a person have to take a book so literally?


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Re: Christianity and Obesity [Re: Swami]
    #3647219 - 01/19/05 07:52 AM (12 years, 5 months ago)

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Yup folks, in general, Christians do not follow the words from Corinthians:

1 Corinthians 3:16 Know ye not that ye are the temple of God, and that the Spirit of God dwelleth in you?

17 If any man defile the temple of God, him shall God destroy; for the temple of God is holy, which temple ye are.




Interesting. I don't mean to steal your thread, but I have seen the above passage used by Christians as the reason why drugs and alcohol should be illegal. Go figure.


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Re: Christianity and Obesity [Re: Seuss]
    #3647237 - 01/19/05 08:03 AM (12 years, 5 months ago)

Those with the most guilt must project it on others. This is much easier than dealing with one's own flaws; hence the passing of these laws.

"My sins: cigarettes, whiskey and Big Macs are A-OK. Yours: mushrooms and marijuana are the tools of the devil."

Not you got me started on the "judge not" theme again.


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Re: Christianity and Obesity [Re: Swami]
    #3647247 - 01/19/05 08:20 AM (12 years, 5 months ago)

so you mean people dont follow thier religion word for word :eek:

Those with the most insecurity about thier beliefs must project it on others. This is much easier than dealing with one's own flaws.


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Re: Christianity and Obesity [Re: Swami]
    #3647251 - 01/19/05 08:27 AM (12 years, 5 months ago)

Its ok though. When they're 40 and on their death beds they can pray for their true salvation, because then they'll REALLY REALLY mean it.


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Re: Christianity and Obesity [Re: Swami]
    #3647311 - 01/19/05 09:27 AM (12 years, 5 months ago)

As I have always said "organized religion" is the tool of Satan, who feeds off of spiritual conflict.He's getting fat off of "christian" hypocrisy

WR :wexican:


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Re: Christianity and Obesity [Re: Swami]
    #3647579 - 01/19/05 11:21 AM (12 years, 5 months ago)

Did they break it down by region? I suspect it has more to do with cultural, social, and environmental factors mostly unrelated to religion. Obesity tends to be highest in the South, particularly Texas, which also has the highest number of fast food restaurants per capita. I wonder if the results might be different if they surveyed different religious groups in the same locale. Also, it is interesting to note the curious phenomenon in America where we have an obese lower class and a skinny or fit upper class(in direct contrast to most of the world, particularly Third World countries). Consider the fact that Southern states tend to have lower average family incomes than the less religious Northern states, which brings up another point: religious participation tends to be higher among the lower class. Lower-income families are also more likely to belong to more socially conservative churches(like the Southern Baptist Church).


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Re: Christianity and Obesity [Re: Paou]
    #3647646 - 01/19/05 11:42 AM (12 years, 5 months ago)

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Paou said:
Also, it is interesting to note the curious phenomenon in America where we have an obese lower class and a skinny or fit upper class(in direct contrast to most of the world, particularly Third World countries).




there are more lower class people, so of course there will be more obesity
i can see this being a valid point if the ratio of rich -> obese
is less than that of poor -> obese
i dont know if this is true though


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Re: Christianity and Obesity [Re: fresh313]
    #3647658 - 01/19/05 11:46 AM (12 years, 5 months ago)

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fresh313 said:
there are more lower class people, so of course there will be more obesity



Then how come the opposite is true in India, where the income gap is far greater than what we have here in America?


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Re: Christianity and Obesity [Re: Paou]
    #3647685 - 01/19/05 11:57 AM (12 years, 5 months ago)

If gluttony is a deadly sin, why are higher rates of obesity associated with greater religious dedication? If America is a Christian Nation, why is America the fattest nation in the world? Should American Christians be a little more concerned about gluttony?

America was founded on Satanism.


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Re: Christianity and Obesity [Re: Cosm]
    #3647698 - 01/19/05 12:04 PM (12 years, 5 months ago)

maybe there is a genetically based biochemical relation between finding satisfaction from god, and finding satisfaction from eating food.

america wasn't founded on satanism, satanism found america


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Re: Christianity and Obesity [Re: fresh313]
    #3648444 - 01/19/05 03:38 PM (12 years, 5 months ago)

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maybe there is a genetically based biochemical relation between finding satisfaction from god, and finding satisfaction from eating food.




I think I just pissed myself.
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Re: Christianity and Obesity [Re: Sclorch]
    #3648477 - 01/19/05 03:44 PM (12 years, 5 months ago)

This is a pretty ridiculous thread. You have established neither correlation nor causation. Christians I know are not any more overweight than the average person, and at the church I used to attend years ago hardly anybody was overweight.


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Re: Christianity and Obesity [Re: Sclorch]
    #3648482 - 01/19/05 03:46 PM (12 years, 5 months ago)

Hey, you are getting lighter already.  :thumbup:


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Re: Christianity and Obesity [Re: Divided_Sky]
    #3650981 - 01/20/05 12:26 AM (12 years, 5 months ago)

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Divided_Sky said:
This is a pretty ridiculous thread. You have established neither correlation nor causation. Christians I know are not any more overweight than the average person, and at the church I used to attend years ago hardly anybody was overweight.




Hmm... yeah, there definitely needs to be some data on this one.
It'd be interesting to have a full study on all the effects of religion on a population (Incidence of Obesity, depression, suicide rates, birth rate, lifespan, diet...). Also, indicate WHICH denomination.

Then we can finally link the eating habits of Northern Baptists to the depression rates of Southern Anglicans!


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Re: Christianity and Obesity [Re: Swami]
    #3651077 - 01/20/05 12:46 AM (12 years, 5 months ago)

I found a contradicting logical analogy to this phrase, "If America is a Christian Nation, why is America the fattest nation in the world"

If an entire nation can be classified as being of the majority religion, or the majority of fitness, then the majority gender must also be considered. If we are a Christian Nation... a fat nation, they we must also be a feminine nation.


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Re: Christianity and Obesity [Re: Sclorch]
    #3651083 - 01/20/05 12:47 AM (12 years, 5 months ago)

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Sclorch said:
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fresh313 said:
maybe there is a genetically based biochemical relation between finding satisfaction from god, and finding satisfaction from eating food.




I think I just pissed myself.
:lol:




pissed yourself because of my genius or because of your incontinence?


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