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OfflineCptnGarden
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Green Tea
    #3646834 - 01/19/05 02:32 AM (11 years, 10 months ago)

I just smoked a bag full of extra strength green tea, I have a solid buzz, my ears feel like my heads being pressed together, although theres no discomfort. I feel happy and expressfull, I feel like I need to talk and type and be friendly with people  :smile:...

I didn't know If I should have put this in OTD or the notorious E to the G, so I picked door number 2.

Anyone have any good info on Green Tea and if theres any active alkaloids in them at all? I  can tell you, with some proper iso-extractions you could make some very potent resin and achieve a very intense high. I didn't know green tea was capable of giving such a nice overall experience.


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Re: Green Tea [Re: CptnGarden]
    #3646915 - 01/19/05 02:59 AM (11 years, 10 months ago)

very interesting. i may have to smoke a bowl and see how it goes.


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Re: Green Tea [Re: CptnGarden]
    #3646968 - 01/19/05 03:16 AM (11 years, 10 months ago)



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Re: Green Tea [Re: spudamore]
    #3646987 - 01/19/05 03:23 AM (11 years, 10 months ago)

interesting
all i know about green tea is that it is healthier than regular black tea


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Re: Green Tea [Re: butterflydawn]
    #3646990 - 01/19/05 03:27 AM (11 years, 10 months ago)



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Re: Green Tea [Re: spudamore]
    #3647768 - 01/19/05 12:24 PM (11 years, 10 months ago)

Green, white and black tea come from the same plant. You can get a buzz from smoking anything even paper. I do not think I'll try this one.


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Re: Green Tea [Re: Stonehenge]
    #3647943 - 01/19/05 01:17 PM (11 years, 10 months ago)

Definitely can't argue with what you're experiencing, but I've thought this was mainly a myth. I tried it once, long ago, to absolutely no avail. My guess is it's a largely placebo high, although there could be some chemical in it that gets you high, but I tend to doubt it because I've drank green tea many times without even a buzz!

Maybe your tea was laced with something? :P

Either way, happy trails!


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Re: Green Tea [Re: dblaney]
    #3647960 - 01/19/05 01:21 PM (11 years, 10 months ago)

no it was definately not a placebo effect... my lips and tongue went numb and my body was buzzing like a salvia trip coming on. it was extra strength green tea fresh out of the box, not laced.


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Re: Green Tea [Re: dblaney]
    #3647972 - 01/19/05 01:23 PM (11 years, 10 months ago)

I don't know what alkaloids, if any, are found in green tea. But if you felt effects from green tea, I would try smoking some white tea. Both are the leaves of Camellia Sinensis, but are dried differently. Green tea is steam treated and air dried, while white tea is simply air dried and cured. White tea contains higher levels of caffeine, EGCG and other antioxidants. White tea will surely have higher levels of any other chemicals found in the leaves. Try it and see for yourself.


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Re: Green Tea [Re: rockstafarian]
    #3648003 - 01/19/05 01:31 PM (11 years, 10 months ago)

What brand? lol I might have to put this on my list of things to investigate


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Re: Green Tea [Re: dblaney]
    #3648111 - 01/19/05 02:33 PM (11 years, 10 months ago)

Tea contains theine, caffeine and other xanthines. I don't know if it has other chems besides those.

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Steaming or drying fresh tea leaves at elevated temperatures makes commercial green tea. Its chemical composition is similar to that of fresh tea leaves. Green tea contains polyphenols, which include flavanols, flavandiols, flavonoids, and phenolic acids; these compounds may account for up to 30% of the dry weight. Most of the green tea polyphenols are flavonols, commonly known as catechins. Some major green tea catechins are (-)-epigallocatechin-3-gallate (EGCG), (-)-epigallocatechin (EGC), (-)-epicatechin-3-gallate (ECG), (-)-epicatechin (EC). (+)-gallocatechin, and(+)-catechin (5). The chemical structures of some of these compounds are shown in Fig. 1. Caffeine, theobromine, and theophylline, the principal alkaloids, account for about 4% of the dry weight. In addition, there are phenolic acids such gallic acids and characteristic amino acids such as theanine. A cup (200 mL) of green tea (Gun Powder, Hangzhou, China) contains about 142 mg EGCG, 65 mg EGC, 28 mg ECG, 17 mg EC, and 76 mg caffeine.



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Re: Green Tea [Re: esin]
    #3648191 - 01/19/05 02:54 PM (11 years, 10 months ago)

Yeah but EGCG and the like are mainly immune system boosters and help your body. I would be highly, highly skeptical of any report of someone getting 'high' off of it.


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Re: Green Tea [Re: dblaney]
    #3648454 - 01/19/05 03:39 PM (11 years, 10 months ago)

Me too... Green tea has been used for centuries. If "getting high", or any effects could be achieved from smoking it, you would think that everyone would know about it. I'm sure it has been tried thousands of times over the ages. If smoking it never caught on, thats probably because it doesnt work.


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Re: Green Tea [Re: dblaney]
    #3648887 - 01/19/05 05:11 PM (11 years, 10 months ago)

It does have theophylline in it... Perhaps that could produce something if enough is injested?


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Re: Green Tea [Re: CptnGarden]
    #3649099 - 01/19/05 05:53 PM (11 years, 10 months ago)

I drink green tea regulary, and almost always, i feel the effects pretty intense in my body and mind.

As a matter of fact, i am always carefull not to let the leaves in my cup for too long, cos then it gets too strong and i experience intense heart rate.(specially in combo with weed,too intense!!/not very comfortable)

It wakes me up and gives me a usefull speed up (good for morning)

It is all a matter of sensitivity...everything gives a high.Are you sensitive enough to feel it? There is even a specific branch of psychology, dedicated to the highs induced by the many different types of food.(Psychodietology


I suppose smoking tea is bad for the lungs tho, i don't think you can get much higher than drinking it..the only difference is that you feel the nicotine, tar,oxygen and whatever else you choose smoking it with...

Also, people who smoke, are not sensitive enough as oposed to their body...If you listen carefully, you can hear your body talking to you....  If you communicate with your body, you will know what it likes, and what it doesn't like.

There are always many ways to use a substance. Do yourself a favour and choose the healthy ones.

Sooner or later you will find out it is smart to do so. :wink:


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Re: Green Tea [Re: Sterile]
    #3650877 - 01/19/05 11:53 PM (11 years, 10 months ago)

thanks everyone for your opinions and information... so i guess there IS some alkaloids in it... "theobromine" that sounds like it might do something... anyone have any info on this chemical?


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Re: Green Tea [Re: CptnGarden]
    #3650887 - 01/19/05 11:58 PM (11 years, 10 months ago)

Theobromine belongs to a class of alkaloid molecules known as methylxanthines. Methylxanthines naturally occur in as many as sixty different plant species and include caffeine (the primary methlyxanthine in coffee) and theophylline (the primary methylxanthine in tea). Theobromine is the primary methylxanthine found in products of the cocoa tree, theobroma cacao.



Theobromine affects humans similarly to caffeine, but on a much smaller scale. Theobromine is mildly diuretic (increases urine production), is a mild stimulant, and relaxes the smooth muscles of the bronchi in the lungs. In the human body, theobromine levels are halved between 6-10 hours after consumption.

Theobromine has been used as a drug for its diuretic effect, particularly in cases where cardiac failure has resulted in an accumulation of body fluid. It has been administered with digitalis in order to relieve dilatation. Because of its ability to dilate blood vessels, theobromine also has been used to treat high blood pressure.

Cocoa and chocolate products may be toxic or lethal to dogs and other domestic animals such as horses because these animals metabolize theobromine more slowly than humans. The heart, central nervous system, and kidneys are affected. Early signs of theobromine poisoning in dogs include nausea and vomiting, restlessness, diarrhea, muscle tremors, and increased urination or incontinence. The treatment at this stage is to induce vomiting. Cardiac arrhythmias and seizures are symptoms of more advanced poisoning.

Different types of chocolate contain different amounts of theobromine. In general, theobromine levels are higher in dark chocolates (approximately 10 g/kg) than in milk chocolates (1-5 g/kg). Higher quality chocolate tends to contain more theobromine than lower quality chocolate. Cocoa beans naturally contain approximately 300-1200 mg/ounce theobromine (note how variable this is!).


definately good information...


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Re: Green Tea [Re: CptnGarden]
    #3750706 - 02/08/05 01:25 PM (11 years, 9 months ago)

Why is it that I find that your post is taken from several other peoples websites and are not your own words.

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Theobromine belongs to a class of alkaloid molecules known as methylxanthines. Methylxanthines naturally occur in as many as sixty different plant species and include caffeine (the primary methlyxanthine in coffee) and theophylline (the primary methylxanthine in tea). Theobromine is the primary methylxanthine found in products of the cocoa tree, theobroma cacao.

Theobromine affects humans similarly to caffeine, but on a much smaller scale. Theobromine is mildly diuretic (increases urine production), is a mild stimulant, and relaxes the smooth muscles of the bronchi in the lungs. In the human body, theobromine levels are halved between 6-10 hours after consumption.




See:
http://theobromine.us/

This is your first two paragraphs in the above post you made.

And then you took these paragraphs from another page on the net:

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Theobromine has been used as a drug for its diuretic effect, particularly in cases where cardiac failure has resulted in an accumulation of body fluid. It has been administered with digitalis in order to relieve dilatation. Because of its ability to dilate blood vessels, theobromine also has been used to treat high blood pressure.

Cocoa and chocolate products may be toxic or lethal to dogs and other domestic animals such as horses because these animals metabolize theobromine more slowly than humans. The heart, central nervous system, and kidneys are affected. Early signs of theobromine poisoning in dogs include nausea and vomiting, restlessness, diarrhea, muscle tremors, and increased urination or incontinence. The treatment at this stage is to induce vomiting. Cardiac arrhythmias and seizures are symptoms of more advanced poisoning.

Different types of chocolate contain different amounts of theobromine. In general, theobromine levels are higher in dark chocolates (approximately 10 g/kg) than in milk chocolates (1-5 g/kg). Higher quality chocolate tends to contain more theobromine than lower quality chocolate. Cocoa beans naturally contain approximately 300-1200 mg/ounce theobromine (note how variable this is!).




Here is the URL for those words from the internet.

http://chemistry.about.com/library/weekly/aa090301a.htm

Please give credit to those who write the words you post which appear as if you wrote them. Those people should be noted for their copyrighted works.

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Re: Green Tea [Re: dblaney]
    #5700267 - 06/01/06 06:06 PM (10 years, 6 months ago)

im also wondering what brand. I have smoked fresh green tea leaves and only felt relaxed. I think green tea also has the chemical LSA in it. Is it possible to trip?


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Re: Green Tea [Re: klownevil]
    #5797981 - 06/28/06 02:17 AM (10 years, 5 months ago)

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