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Re: Trip Report: > 150 mcg of LSD last friday ! [Re: Asante]
    #3652618 - 01/20/05 07:46 AM (19 years, 12 days ago)

wish i could even get ahold of that shit man...sounds pretty crazy...all i can get is shrooms every once and awhile (2-3 months :-() but thats why im starting to grow them!! mwahahahahaha (evil laugh)

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Re: Trip Report: > 150 mcg of LSD last friday ! [Re: Asante]
    #3655167 - 01/20/05 06:44 PM (19 years, 11 days ago)

Once again, great post.....your knowledge never ceases to amaze me. I have one question though, i'm not too familiar with Adobe, I have the PDF version, but how do I set it to 2 pages per sheet?  :laugh: :sun:


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Re: Trip Report: > 150 mcg of LSD last friday ! [Re: Tremor1127]
    #3657778 - 01/21/05 09:01 AM (19 years, 11 days ago)

Quote:

Tremor1127 said:
"Hrmm i wonder after paper is dripped and hung up to dry how much of it slides down the paper more to the bottom part."

ya never know, but it does happen...

"On a chunk of dragons ive seen you could almost notice the water marks run marks or somthing." 

the last blotter i had, condoms, you could visibly see where they were very wet and then dried, making the water marks like that...  unfortunatly they werent very potent but i dont bitch about what i get, just stating the facts

"Also how would one get a piece of blotter tested for how many mics.  Are there any places you can seriously annon send them too to do this?"

good question... 

its wild just how crazy acid trips can get sometimes...  :flowerchild:

rock out with yer cock out!  :jamming:




Anyone else have any information about these?  I suspect if the where hung straight up vertically that the lsd would naturally want to flow downward unless the paper is able to even absorb it or somthing.


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Re: Trip Report: > 150 mcg of LSD last friday ! [Re: baraka]
    #3658709 - 01/21/05 02:17 PM (19 years, 10 days ago)

If the balance is right capillary action and surface tension effects will keep it nice & evenly distributed even if it is hung sideways. These were either oversoaked or soaked too short in the correct amount. I assume the latter :smile:


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Re: Trip Report: > 150 mcg of LSD last friday ! [Re: Asante]
    #3658720 - 01/21/05 02:20 PM (19 years, 10 days ago)

Great report Wiccan.

I had a similar trip on Penis Envy last year.

McKenna made a MEAN strain :wink:


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Re: Trip Report: > 150 mcg of LSD last friday ! [Re: Asante]
    #3660634 - 01/21/05 07:53 PM (19 years, 10 days ago)

Great report.  ITA about Huxley's "Doors of Perception".  Here it is:

The Doors of Perception



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Re: Trip Report: > 150 mcg of LSD last friday ! [Re: Cameron1]
    #3662103 - 01/22/05 07:25 AM (19 years, 10 days ago)

Any of you ever tripped w/o use of drugs? I know it may sound odd, but I have and do often. Or could it merely be the effect of a drug I took awhile ago? Either way, I know it's true, and I welcome the visions.


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Re: Trip Report: > 150 mcg of LSD last friday ! [Re: princess_toadie]
    #3662134 - 01/22/05 08:23 AM (19 years, 10 days ago)

haha good for you! tell me more about it!

WS - great report, sounds very cathartic.
A question, how sure are you that your dose was 150mics? It seems like quite a heavy experience for such a dose. But I'm assuming that's in part due to the way you directed the trip (???).

The DEA says average doses are 50-80mics (from memory). And this seems to be what most people are experiencing. a very light dose. Compare this to the 200mic doses of the 60's. I hear a good way to calculate the strength of the trip is that 1 mic for every kilogram of your body weight should produce psychedelic effects. My gnome is a heavy runt at 75kg. (thats real heavy for a midget gnome) would he be diving into the deep end taking 100mics? (possibly 150). He figures he'd be fine at this big music festival on that dosage, but your recent ego death experience has me concerned for him perhaps losing control and hurting himself. (he's very short and under the influence could easily stumble into a moshpit and die).


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Re: Trip Report: > 150 mcg of LSD last friday ! [Re: el_duderino]
    #3663166 - 01/22/05 03:17 PM (19 years, 9 days ago)

Average doses are 50-80mics, but there are 70-100mic doses, and some over......i've heard that the eyes/vision doses were 120-130mics. There is liquid going around now around 300-400 mics from what I've heard. Wiccan_Seeker said the blotter was 50mics...but he got the end hits, and apparently more LSD absorbed there when the sheets were hung up to dry. As far as tripping at a music fest....I love tripping at shows, the first time I tripped was on what must've been at least 400mics of really, really pure L...this took place at a very small music fest. Times were different then though......almost everyone there was very, very kind, and they all took me in and made sure I had a great time! There was no moshing too, so...... Anyway, i've tripped at shows since on lower doses and also had incredible experiences, i'd say go for it...just know your mind!  :laugh: :sun:
***edit*** all the mics I posted are for the US....i'm under the impression that the rest of the world has stronger doses. :tongue: :drooling:


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Re: Trip Report: > 150 mcg of LSD last friday ! [Re: Dark_Star]
    #3667418 - 01/23/05 11:15 AM (19 years, 9 days ago)

I'm thinking its the same all over pretty much but i hear good things about a few prints here in Aus. My gnome has tripped off a substantial amount of mushies at a gig. All chill people t'was a great experience it's just he's not at all familiar with acid. I'm hoping an ego death at 100-150mics isn't a typical experience! :P


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Re: Trip Report: > 150 mcg of LSD last friday ! [Re: el_duderino]
    #3668896 - 01/23/05 05:05 PM (19 years, 8 days ago)

let me pump out some literature figures to put it all into perspective.


If you have big compost-grown Cubies they on average hold 6mg Psilocybin per gram. The often mentioned "one-eighth ounce of shrooms" thus typically holds about 20mg Psilocybin.

LSD is approximately 200x as potent as Psilocybin.

This makes 100mcg of LSD about as potent as 1/8 oz of mushrooms, except it lasts about twice as long.

According to The Great Mushrooms Poll most users deem 1.5gr to 1/8 oz  a desirable dose which averages 10-20mg of Psilocybin and this is the dose level Shulgin recommends for Psilocybin, and which corresponds with the 50-100mcg of LSD found in a decent blotter.

The blotters had tested to be 50mcg but these were way stronger. I myself have had over 100 trips on measured doses, my Spiritual brother is quite experienced too and both of us found the generic trip effects (when no topics were at play) to be about equivalent in strength to 5gr = 30mg psilocybin. 

People tend to forget that 1.5gr of mushrooms, or a blotter, can hit you like 15gr or ten blotters. If dynamic psychologic processes are just beneath the surface a small dose (like 8-10mg = 40-50mcg) can blow you skyhigh. The Ego Death sequence took me far beyond the dose's generic strength but generically it was around 150.

THERE IS NO SAFETY IN NUMBERS: ONE BLOTTER CAN HIT YOU AS HARD AS A TEN-STRIP

Tripping for the most part is relinquishing control. Nobody can guarantee you will be "in control" when you trip, because the point is to give up control and float downstream rather then swim upstream with all your might and drown by exhaustion.
The latter is called a BAD TRIP: either you reject yourself or you refuse to let go.

If the music concert has places where you can keel over and die in peace then Ego Death need not concern you. It's usually a self-regulating process you can trust.

Generally speaking 1/2 of a good blotter (or 0.5-1.5gr Cubies) tend towards trips where you can maintain control without extreme occurrances. As a rule of thumb you can say that the strength level people like to trip on can facilitate direly bad trips.

Work at your TRUST of your Self rather then a safe tripping dose :heart:


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Re: Trip Report: > 150 mcg of LSD last friday ! [Re: Asante]
    #3669058 - 01/23/05 05:50 PM (19 years, 8 days ago)

I'm curious, you mentioned 5 other psychedelics were consumed that weekend.  What were they, and would you mind telling?  And if you do, well, thats cool too, I am just glad you had such a great trip. 

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Re: Trip Report: > 150 mcg of LSD last friday ! [Re: Asante]
    #3670379 - 01/23/05 11:57 PM (19 years, 8 days ago)

Hey WS cheers for the info much appreciated! :grin:


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Re: Trip Report: > 150 mcg of LSD last friday ! [Re: Quoiyaien]
    #3677926 - 01/25/05 01:33 PM (19 years, 6 days ago)

Quote:

I'm curious, you mentioned 5 other psychedelics were consumed that weekend. What were they, and would you mind telling?




eheheheh... this is the point where the one starts drooling in envy and the other thinks we're nuts!
This was a planned excursion so we could ask around for sources.

LSD, 2C-B, MDMA, Mushrooms, Salvia and Nitrous oxide :shocked:


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Re: Trip Report: > 150 mcg of LSD last friday ! [Re: Asante]
    #3679319 - 01/25/05 06:50 PM (19 years, 6 days ago)

....I :heart:you.... :loveeyes: :wink:


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Re: Trip Report: > 150 mcg of LSD last friday ! [Re: WldChild]
    #3680056 - 01/25/05 09:18 PM (19 years, 6 days ago)

:bow: :bow: :bow:
Thats awesome.  I could sure go for some 2C-B but alas, it is nowhere to be found.  What was the dosage schedule like? 

You mention Salvia,  Did you try it on acid?  A buddy and I were tripping off 2 hits of some killer blotter (red happy faces), and thought we'd give little ol' Sally D a go.  WOW!  Very interesting to say the least.  It was like the acid was still very apparent, except everything had a much more leafy like appearance.  It gave my inner head space a nice shot of green.  All this time we had Ravi Shankar on the stereo, and it took me to a very wierd place full of entities.  These entities, which were far from shy, were dancing around to the music, laughig in there own cosmic way, and it seemed like they were the Salvia entities all drunk at a party or something.  Among this, I could see 2 distinct realms (among the billions of others), and each had its own unique flavor.  Then in the middle, where the 2 realms converged, it became its own distinct entity.  I was like "so this is what it would be like if Acid and Lady Salvia had a baby".

Very great night.
 
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Re: Trip Report: > 150 mcg of LSD last friday ! [Re: Quoiyaien]
    #3680090 - 01/25/05 09:22 PM (19 years, 6 days ago)

Great story! I'd like to try 2C-B as well.  :drooling: :nut:


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Re: Trip Report: > 150 mcg of LSD last friday ! [Re: Asante]
    #5411479 - 03/17/06 06:42 AM (17 years, 10 months ago)

Friends & fellows, the Trip that kicked off the thread took place 420 days ago, and I have decided to write a rectrospective report.

If you are curious about it, please re-read the initial report at the threadstart post before reading the following bit, to refresh your memory.

All this is an intimidatingly long read so I hope anyone will bother :grin:


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Explorers in the Further Regions of Experience

-- A Retrospective


written by wiccan_seeker



Today I was running through my files when I stumbled upon my trip report called "Explorers in the Further Regions of Experience". It was quite an experience to have. You often read intense reports and find yourself thinking: "I wonder what happened afterward".

I reached for my pocket calculator and it just so happened to be that that Journey took place 420 days ago. Reading the report I decided a retrospective would be called for, after all this is rarely done.

Such an intense Journey... How would someone integrate that into their lives? What would still be left of the experience fourteen months later?

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First of all, the Brotherhood of Three is still on the Path, we've had our bumps in the road as any good friendship has, but the Spirit of what was there fourteen months ago is still very alive today. Our friendships developed further and there has been Growth for the three of us, both as a Whole and for our personal selves.

Back in the day I was a bit displeased that erowid.org chose to file this experience under "Bad Trips". To me, it didn't feel like that at the time, just a very hard experience with a wonderfully positive outcome. But looking back I can see why they chose to file it like they did. The beginning surely was quite nightmarish.

I exposed my father to the report and it upset him quite a bit. He was worried to read his son go to such realms of suffering on LSD, and the essence and benefit of the mystical experience that follows in his wake isn't clear to him, like it often isn't to those without personal experience in sailing the Lysergic seas of consciousness. We had some good talks about it and he now accepts it, even though it is now abundantly clear to him he does not want to take part in elesdious adventures.

But as for my personal experiences, let me get into those now.

That particular Journey was a watershed in my personal development. It put me on a crossroads and I feel I have definitely chosen the best of the Paths offered to me.

First of all, it resulted in a lot of fears about the safety of the Experience having been put to rest, and with it I gained a higher confidence in my ability to withstand the gales of Life itself. Ever since that experience my inner calm and confidence has been fortified, and I say this 420 days after the fact.

Before that Journey I latently harbored a fear that one day perhaps something intense would happen, which would result in me losing my grasp on reality. In the weeks after the Experience this latent lifelong fear slowly subsided and gave way to an inner confidence that this will not happen, and if it would then I'd cross that bridge when I find it, instead of consistently fearing it deep down in the back of my mind.

As for the other primal fear of Man, the fear of Death, that's still fully in place as I have not yet completed the full Ego Death cycle.

The onset of suffocation marked the point where a panic attack had set in, triggered by the realization that I was in this experience for better or for worse, which followed the shift that signaled a deepening of the experience. It eventually could have ended when I laid down and died, thus surrendering completely to the Death Experience, and with it my worst fear of total loss of control. External circumstances prevented this Ego Death cycle, and with it my surrender, to go into completion.

At first, my spiritual Brother and I both fled into rationalizations to escape the confrontation with the Self. Then, the deepening of the Experience sucked me in and I was into the Experience, for better or for worse. My spiritual Brother however could not let go and clung onto his Ego by throwing himself headfirst into giving me a talkdown and reassurances, which unfortunately both succeeded in keeping his LSD experience from reaching the Innermost Realms, and at the same time his constant preoccupation with my mindstate gave me a strong stimulus to cling onto myself, aiding my escape attempts and, once he returned from the toilet, disrupting my Ego Death sequence by immediately pouncing on my perceived peril.

Letting go is the most difficult problem for all of us, but my spiritual Brother unfortunately is very successful in holding on. We are insistently trying to get him over the edge to the point of losing control, and this is in fact a heartfelt goal of his, but he manages to stay afloat at lab-tested doses up to 250mcg of LSD. It may seem odd that his desire, and a group objective, is to plunge him into loss of control, but we firmly believe that the greatest treasures are to be found there. So unfortunately this particular experience was a turning point in my personal growth, but for him did not lead to a psychological breakthrough.

And then there was God.

Oh yes, the definite turning point where Cosmic Consciousness broke through signaling my high degree of surrender. It was so beautiful, and it proved to be so nurturing and healing in my life ever after, and again I say this at 420 days after that night of LSD.

Words cannot express the reward of experiencing Cosmic Consciousness. This is perhaps the greatest of all rewards, as it increases basic trust in the very essence of the Universe itself.

I now stronger than before adhere to the concept of the Holotropic Universe, that everything is present in all things. I've expanded my mystical universe further and now hold the belief that not just everything is present in all things but that Time is the sole divider that separates the one from the other.

At the moment of Death, will time cease to pass, will you yourself pass over or will time expand to encompass the anything and all? Will there be a void, a rebirth or will we become One with everything, in essence, become God as the boundaries of our individuality dissolves?
What really dies on your deathbed? Perhaps the symbolics of Ego Death will shed more light on it for me in the future.

And an upsurge of ancestral memories, when I went back to Africa, the cradle of humanity. The experience of not merging but actually being these people I beheld, as well as feeling to have been each of them and having known the others. It fortified my belief that perhaps we all, truly are One.
Words can not express the wonder I felt, and still feel, of these ancestral past life memories that i saw through my closed eyes and felt through my Being.

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In the sessions after this one I have had an increasing willingness to surrender completely to the experience, and experience the Heavens and Hells of it to their full intensity. In that partial Ego Death on my living room couch on that fateful night, a part of my life fears have died, and died for good. That one Voyage was the clearest proof for me to this date that the process and LSD not just have great psychological safety if it is done correctly, but also that indeed remarkable treasures are to be gained.

Above all that one voyage on LSD fortified that I really, sincerely, believe in the value of Entheogenic compounds and that I really, sincerely, want to walk this Path. Many spiritual teachers claim that the LSD experience is nothing but smoke and mirrors. I can now say from the heart and with great conviction that they are wrong, and know not of what they speak. That night affirmed to me that indeed here is more to Entheogens than exotic experience and emotional sensation. For the one who knows where to look it can be a spiritual path, which personal growth results are every bit as valuable as the formal schools of Spirituality can offer, and every bit as personal. That night of LSD changed my life for the better, I have said that then and I say this now, with full conviction, fourteen months after.

That night has affirmed to me that I am, and will remain, Explorer in the Further Regions of Experience.


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Re: Trip Report: > 150 mcg of LSD last friday ! [Re: Asante]
    #5413571 - 03/17/06 04:31 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)

Very interesting, Wiccan_Seeker!

I have yet to bring a friend into the experience of cosmic consciousness...but they all think Im fuckn crazy! All because before experiencing it myself, I got a bit lost in my use of lsd. But now I can show them stuff they will really experience! ...but whadya want, its just me.


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Re: Trip Report: > 150 mcg of LSD last friday ! [Re: Grapefruity]
    #5584314 - 05/03/06 12:37 AM (17 years, 8 months ago)

Very inspireing report!


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