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Zac
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first time, not a stupid noob question...
#3639466 - 01/17/05 02:42 PM (19 years, 2 months ago) |
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im sorry for the first timer remark, im not trying to piss anyone off, but here is my deal. do to the fact that i live in a dorm and have no kitchen or any other means o sterrrrrrrrrrzng myjars, i was gona order the already made/sterlized substrate jars from one of the sponsors online. are these worth buying if u have the money and are willing to sacrifice it or your first harvest? basically all i would have to do when i get them is to inoculate them with the spore syringe and wait till they grow mycellium with these right? if someone could help me out with this i would appreciate it, i just dont wanna spend 50 bucks on some shit that isn't gonna work....
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Zac
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Re: first time, not a stupid noob question... [Re: Zac]
#3639471 - 01/17/05 02:43 PM (19 years, 2 months ago) |
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metasin
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Re: first time, not a stupid noob question... [Re: Zac]
#3639508 - 01/17/05 02:56 PM (19 years, 2 months ago) |
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if you dont have access to a stove, it sounds like it would work since that substrate is prepared properly, but I would think thru the shipping process it would settle a lot which would slow your colonization time. If time isn't a problem I would go for it but I would really consider trying to get a way to sterilize your jars where you are at. Autoclaves are pretty expensive but if you stick to the PFtek you can get away with boiling without having a real high contam rate.
My only question is : do you really want to order pre-made jars whenever you want to do another batch?
I would really look into some other methods of sterilizing, even if you had to get a hot plate and a pot to boil them in, it would speed up the process IMO since your substrate will be more aerated. All in all it would pay for itself in time since you can leave out shipping.
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Re: first time, not a stupid noob question... [Re: metasin]
#3639528 - 01/17/05 03:02 PM (19 years, 2 months ago) |
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I'm not sure what everyone elses views are on microwaving, but i mix up my substrate following the pf tek and then fill microwavable tupperware containers full seal it then just open one corner of the lid for steam to escape. Nuke that for 5 min, let cool for 5-6 hours then place 4 holes in each side to inoculate and cover with foil. i've had no contams and good myc growing since i've been doing it. i would suggest giving it a try
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Zac
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Re: first time, not a stupid noob question... [Re: metasin]
#3639531 - 01/17/05 03:03 PM (19 years, 2 months ago) |
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well the thing is i will be moving out next semester and ill be able to sterlize by boiling, but i wanna try a harvest now just to get the hang of it. and the jars are closed after sterilization and sealed with some kind of protective foil. would all i have to do it to inoculate them when i get them and the rewrap in foil? i have the money, since a friend is splitting the jars with me, so im not worried about that, i just want some reassurance that these jars and this substrate is good.... and what about spores? any that are more prone to grow more shroomies than others?
Edited by Zac (01/17/05 03:13 PM)
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Zac
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Re: first time, not a stupid noob question... [Re: Zac]
#3639546 - 01/17/05 03:07 PM (19 years, 2 months ago) |
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what about if i nuked the jars in the microwave once they got here just to reassure myself of no contamination...
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Re: first time, not a stupid noob question... [Re: Zac]
#3639581 - 01/17/05 03:16 PM (19 years, 2 months ago) |
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penlight438094
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Re: first time, not a stupid noob question... [Re: MarchHare]
#3639632 - 01/17/05 03:31 PM (19 years, 2 months ago) |
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yup i've got one, I do have access to a stove but it allows me to pc while I'm sittin on the couch
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Re: first time, not a stupid noob question... [Re: Zac]
#3639702 - 01/17/05 03:47 PM (19 years, 2 months ago) |
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To answer your question, yes the jars from pfjars.com will be just fine. No need to re-nuke them in the micro. They will be sterile and I believe he even offers a gaurantee. Recondite, seemed to think the substrate in the jar's would settle during shipping (the denser the substrate the longer it takes to colonize). If it does settle some just turn em up side down and slap the bottom of the jars with your hand then give em' a mild shake to loosen up the substrate. Don't shake too hard though or you'll mix the 1" dry verm layer on top with the rest. The dry verm layer is there as a barrier against contams, btw.
As far as spores go, just check out some of the shroomery's sponsors. They are all good reliable vendors. Some say that one strain will outperform another given the PF-Tek application but it's really all a matter of opinion. Everyone seems to have varying ideas as to which strain is best. Most people would probably recommend Golden Teacher, Creeper, Equadorian, B+ or something along those lines though. I really can't say for sure which is best but that should get you started on the right track with a few suggestions.
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Zac
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Re: first time, not a stupid noob question... [Re: 13eetleJuice]
#3639752 - 01/17/05 03:58 PM (19 years, 2 months ago) |
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thanks man, i appreciate the help, i just ordered some acadian coast strain cubensis spores and im about to order the jars. as much as it costs for shrooms down here, i will be making my money back shortly anyways, esp sine im splitting the jars with a buddy.
also, one spore syringe will colonize 12 jars right? im pretty sure i read there are enough spores in one syringe to make all 12 jars grow....?
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Re: first time, not a stupid noob question... [Re: Zac]
#3639768 - 01/17/05 04:03 PM (19 years, 2 months ago) |
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I would NEVER grow in the dorms. You get caught GROWING/producing anything illegal you will be kicked out of college period, anything within 1000 feet of campus is the same. Is it worth it?
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Re: first time, not a stupid noob question... [Re: collegeshroom]
#3639777 - 01/17/05 04:07 PM (19 years, 2 months ago) |
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get myco bags they are way way better go that way youll be much happier
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Zac
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Re: first time, not a stupid noob question... [Re: fee]
#3639802 - 01/17/05 04:14 PM (19 years, 2 months ago) |
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yeah dude, i have the perfect hiding place, there is a cupbaord on top of my closet that has a lock and the ra cant open it. i just have to make sure i dont tell anyone. plus dude, if u knew my ra, ud know he really doesn't give a shit what i do anyways since im a kappa sig and he used to party with some sig's. anyways, the guy next door to us deals pot and sends pot to the actual dorm address....crazy shit..
Edited by Zac (01/17/05 04:28 PM)
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collegeshroom
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Re: first time, not a stupid noob question... [Re: Zac]
#3639822 - 01/17/05 04:19 PM (19 years, 2 months ago) |
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kappa sig... what state?
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Zac
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Re: first time, not a stupid noob question... [Re: collegeshroom]
#3639860 - 01/17/05 04:28 PM (19 years, 2 months ago) |
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Re: first time, not a stupid noob question... [Re: Zac]
#3643503 - 01/18/05 01:37 PM (19 years, 2 months ago) |
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I would highly suggest not ordering from pfjars.com and going with spores101.com who is also a shroomery sponsor. Just a more well tempered one IMO.
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