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InvisibleLand_Crab
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Some kind of sick joke..?
    #3638812 - 01/17/05 02:22 PM (11 years, 10 months ago)

Hello,

I have a problem.  During the last 6-odd times I've tripped, the mushrooms have only worked about 3 times.  They are all cubensis from the same batch, and I know that they're at least average in potency, since they have worked for a friend and have worked for me. 

Two things are noteworthy: #1, I have been using 2C-B on a fairly regular basis for about the last couple months.  In fact, I decided one evening to try a combination of 2C-B and mushrooms.  I had taken 2C-B earlier in the day, then took it again with the mushrooms (I forget the dose, but it should have been enough), and get this - instead of having a nice additive effect, they cancelled each out and I didn't trip at all! :mad2: I suppose I may have plugged up too many serotonin receptors..?

#2, I am currently on Effexor, an SSRI.  Now that might seem like a red flag, were it not for the fact that I have been on a variety of SSRIs for almost 10 years and never had a problem with tripping before (I am very experienced).  But I wonder if it isn't something specifically about the Effexor that might be mucking things up a bit?

Anyways, the last time I took the fungus, I had waited at least a week since taking the 2C-B.  I ended up taking 7 to 8 grams, and felt like I had taken 1.5!  I was even able to drive to the fishstore.  What a huge dissapointment.  Mushrooms are my favorite thing ever, and I don't think I can bear the thought of either not tripping hard again, or needing like 20 grams to get high.  :sad:

:confused: Any help/suggestions would be greatly appreciated.


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Re: Some kind of sick joke..? [Re: Land_Crab]
    #3639077 - 01/17/05 03:08 PM (11 years, 10 months ago)

And already you are getting into polydrug abuse.

You are experiencing cross-tolerance to the shrooms with the other drugs you are taking.

Sacred plants and shrooms whould be taki en casually a few times or so a year, although one can take a substance every week for the rest of their life, that is not what they are all about.

And taking drugs while taking pharmaceuticals is not good for the pohysical side of your being.

mj

Just my own personal thoughts.

have a shroomy day.

mj


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Re: Some kind of sick joke..? [Re: Land_Crab]
    #3639088 - 01/17/05 03:11 PM (11 years, 10 months ago)

Yeah dude, stop taking so many drugs all the time.


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Re: Some kind of sick joke..? [Re: HeavyToilet]
    #3639116 - 01/17/05 03:17 PM (11 years, 10 months ago)

Don't take any drugs for a week (aside from your antidepressant), then eat the shrooms, they'll work.


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Re: Some kind of sick joke..? [Re: mjshroomer]
    #3639193 - 01/17/05 03:35 PM (11 years, 10 months ago)

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Sacred plants and shrooms whould be taki en casually a few times or so a year, although one can take a substance every week for the rest of their life, that is not what they are all about.

And taking drugs while taking pharmaceuticals is not good for the pohysical side of your being.




I agree


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Re: Some kind of sick joke..? [Re: Land_Crab]
    #3639262 - 01/17/05 03:47 PM (11 years, 10 months ago)

Take a break from all hallucinogens. You've seem to built up quite a tolerance from imbibing in them too often, and the effexor only makes it worse. If you continue the effexor, then at least stop hallucinogens for a few weeks, then take mushrooms again and you should be back to normal (as normal as you're going to get on an SSRI that is.)


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Re: Some kind of sick joke..? [Re: Ravus]
    #3639355 - 01/17/05 04:12 PM (11 years, 10 months ago)

mjshroomer - I started getting into polydrug abuse about 8 years ago. Though I prefer to think of these things on a more psychological basis than the philosophical one you hint at in your message, I am aware of the difference between a sacred and a profane ritual - and that is something that, more recently, I have tried to keep in check.

I probably sounded like a "Dude, how come I can't get fucked up?" paint-huffer in my message. Well, I'd be lying if I said that that wasn't part of my identity; but I'd also be doing a disservice to myself if I said I've never embraced and ran with the visionary, life-altering qualities of psychedelics (vs. say, the cocaine).

I figured it was probably a matter of cross-tolerance, I guess I just needed to type it out. Thanks everybody for your responses.


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Re: Some kind of sick joke..? [Re: Land_Crab]
    #3639475 - 01/17/05 04:45 PM (11 years, 10 months ago)

I horrible thing like that happen to me except it was with dxm. Two years ago when I started dxm it the classic cev's in the dark and it wonderful. Did in it once every 1 to 3 weeks. This was maybe 10 to 15 sessions in the 750mg to 1000mg range. I took a mandatory break (was deployed) for like 11 months came back, started again, and the first 2 times were okay. Than I couldn't get to where I was. I would take 1200mg and I would have the body load but nothing interesting going on in the brain. Waited several months tried again no success. So now it seems the magic with dxm is gone. I hope this does not happen to you. This was over a time of less than two years. I agree to take the advice given.
Good luck.


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Re: Some kind of sick joke..? [Re: Land_Crab]
    #3639604 - 01/17/05 05:23 PM (11 years, 10 months ago)

"Sacred" does not = common


Something which is truly Sacred is special, unique, a blessing, something to care for with great intensity and admiration

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Re: Some kind of sick joke..? [Re: World Spirit]
    #3639694 - 01/17/05 05:45 PM (11 years, 10 months ago)

Hummm... I guess I always thought of synthetic mescaline as the same as mescaline from a San Pedro or synthetic psilocybin as the same as psilocybin from shrooms. Maybe that's why I haven't connected with the naturals. Damn this technological world we live in. Guess I have some soul searching to do. Thanks enter.


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Re: Some kind of sick joke..? [Re: lonebuddha]
    #3640808 - 01/17/05 09:56 PM (11 years, 10 months ago)

There is one surefire way to connect with the plants

Grow your own ethnobotanical garden!

If you tend to and nurture your plants on a daily basis it's damn near impossible to not respect and admire them (which in turn has a beneficial effect on you).


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Re: Some kind of sick joke..? [Re: BorgFace]
    #3640929 - 01/17/05 10:27 PM (11 years, 10 months ago)

Yes I agree.


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