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Offlinerunawayjim
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Why Religion ?
    #3634542 - 01/16/05 11:58 AM (12 years, 6 months ago)

Why do people choose religion, could somebody please explain to me one way in which religion has benefitied the progression of mankind. These books and religions that people place themselves under have only led to mass amounts of dying. Look at Palestine and Isreal.

Why religion?


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Re: Why Religion ? [Re: runawayjim]
    #3634799 - 01/16/05 01:52 PM (12 years, 6 months ago)

Someone once said: "Religion is just spirituality gone bad."

Unfortunately many religions, with their rigid fundamentalism and indoctrinated beliefs of life that try to 'capture wind in a box', do have tremendous potential to foster ignorance, and seperation from reality, which breeds fear. Ignorance is a very, very deep root of negativity and 'evil'. Such disturbances coming from religions that profess to adhere to principles which actually contradict the usual aformentioned results, is sadly ironic.

But to go even deeper, and more accurate, I would transform the question "Why Religion".. into: "Why Beliefs?"

Why must we try to control the unknown? Fear? Is it too scary to take the full blow of the fact that we really do not know the unknown? Well, obviously for many people, it indeed is a disturbing thought. Rather than come face to face with this fact, and gain genuine stability, confidence and wisdom in acceptance of the unknown and whatever it turns out to be... many are rather content with the problematic clinging to whatever subjective answer suits their psychology, which then creates the potential to foster fear and ignorance.
But it is just as it is only frightful for me to lose my beloved possessions, if I were so attached to them. All attachment is a basic illusion. We cling to qualities which do not exist, objectively.. but, rather, projectively. The same goes for beliefs.
All I need are facts. Abolish all beliefs. Beliefs take energy to support them. Why expend energy in supporting a belief, when you can be supported by simple facts?
This is true, inner freedom.

Now, I will try my lime-blossom sugar body scrub.




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Re: Why Religion ? [Re: SkorpivoMusterion]
    #3635924 - 01/16/05 08:00 PM (12 years, 6 months ago)

Exactly. Well explained!

There are many ancient books/texts claiming to know of Gods and answers to life. Why chose any 1 of the millions and believe in it???

I don't think that any man can tell me how to live, wether he/she claims to be a prophet from beyond or not.


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Re: Why Religion ? [Re: Ego Death]
    #3635930 - 01/16/05 08:02 PM (12 years, 6 months ago)

Why not communism, community. Sharing. Caring.


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Re: Why we hate religion. [Re: runawayjim]
    #3635934 - 01/16/05 08:03 PM (12 years, 6 months ago)

The masses are ignorant all fighting over a book that doesn't exist. A man wrote that book to cover up the shit that i do.


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Re: Why Religion ? [Re: Droz]
    #3636000 - 01/16/05 08:20 PM (12 years, 6 months ago)

We tried communism, but people took advantage of it, and it turned into dictatorship in some contries.

We don't need to change our politics or religions, we neet to change ourselfs. If we fixed ourselves every form of politics or religion would be functioning.

But if humans evolve in their consciousness, communism will return sooner or later, and not in that form it took in the past, but in form of an anarchy, communistic anarchy.

Today it sounds like a nightmare to a common man ("communistic anarchy") but it is an utopia really.



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Re: Why Religion ? [Re: runawayjim]
    #3636925 - 01/16/05 11:56 PM (12 years, 6 months ago)

good conversation here :thumbup:

Just some stats, the world has approx. 6 billion humans.

Of the major world religions, the breakdown is this:

2 billion Christians( all the many denominations, of which 1.1 billion are Catholic)

1 billion Islam

800 million Hinduism

300 million Buddhism

There any many more practices people follow, and already the number of 'religious' people is over 50% the worlds population.

Why religion? Because it satisfies something of the human ego, whether by the divine or ability of the human brain to connect to a higher self.
Too bad 'religion' as a term has been so misconstrued, misinterpreted and waked over by history. The true religion ( which is up for debate :smirk:) is probably not what everyone is so sold out on.


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Re: Why Religion ? *DELETED* [Re: skystone]
    #3636969 - 01/17/05 12:09 AM (12 years, 6 months ago)

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Re: Why Religion ? [Re: 2Experimental]
    #3636976 - 01/17/05 12:10 AM (12 years, 6 months ago)

Religion created by man

spirituality natural


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Re: Why Religion ? [Re: poke smot!]
    #3637034 - 01/17/05 12:24 AM (12 years, 6 months ago)

Quote:

I have come to the conclusion that it would take a drastic worldwide catastrophic event to happen to all of society, before such a thing would have a chance to come to be.





And a world wide catastrophe is just what I think is going to happen. As far as how long until or of what nature , who knows the hour?
It will happen as in Revelations and Mathew. The end will be the beginning.
After the catastrophe, mankind will be put to the test. Whether by the world ending the bible meant a new world would be emerging, or whether it meant that by the world ending all mankind would end with it, no one can say. Either way, if the bible is bogus and there is no god, these things will happen anyways. Do the people who do not believe in the Armageddon or hell think these things one day could not come true?


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Re: Why Religion ? [Re: 2Experimental]
    #3637856 - 01/17/05 07:59 AM (12 years, 6 months ago)

it is good to have a way to do things
we learn many routines: walking, talking, cooking, etc.
the more complicated things fall into tradition and
in any region preserved tradition collects into order and respect:
Power and religion.
chief and shaman
king and pope


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" Why Religion Matters"//dr. huston smith [Re: runawayjim]
    #3642625 - 01/18/05 11:11 AM (12 years, 6 months ago)

http://www.tgrady.com/smith.htm


because it is such a very human activity, hehheh...


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Re: " Why Religion Matters"//dr. huston smith [Re: gnrm23]
    #3642745 - 01/18/05 11:56 AM (12 years, 6 months ago)

almost anything that takes longer than 3seconds to understand directly wants to be codified.

storing the codex involves either writing, or an oral tradition.

the oral tradition supported religion 100%

restricted literacy strongly supported centralized organized religion,

and the current democratic web-literacy engenters a kind of googley meta-religion: we still have the 3 second comprehension(/or faith) issue, but regionalization is fading in significance, and honest ignorance is easier to accept about some things - like the buddhist embrace of the moment always perfect or sufficient even if different than you wanted it.

for some illiterates, religion remains the strongest form of understanding, and for those on the interface with illiteracy, the codex they bear deserves tremendous respect.


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