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should iraq be split up?
    #3631984 - 01/15/05 06:51 PM (12 years, 4 months ago)

what do you think about the idea of splitting iraq up into several countries?


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Re: should iraq be split up? [Re: ]
    #3631990 - 01/15/05 06:52 PM (12 years, 4 months ago)

Why would you want to split Iraq up into several countries?


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Re: should iraq be split up? [Re: Kenny7822]
    #3632004 - 01/15/05 06:55 PM (12 years, 4 months ago)

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Why would you want to split Iraq up into several countries?



Because the Sunnis, Shiites, and Kurds can't seem to get along as a single nation, so perhaps they should each have their own nation. Personally, I think it's a damn good idea.


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Re: should iraq be split up? [Re: Paou]
    #3632046 - 01/15/05 07:04 PM (12 years, 4 months ago)

Well then if they can't get along then I'd say it probably is a good idea. Not sure if that would help them get along any better though but at least they would have their own country.


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Re: should iraq be split up? [Re: ]
    #3632061 - 01/15/05 07:07 PM (12 years, 4 months ago)

Why don't we just drop a nuke on it and turn it into a storage facility for other countries?


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Re: should iraq be split up? [Re: zahudulallah]
    #3632077 - 01/15/05 07:11 PM (12 years, 4 months ago)

Then a lot of innocent people would be killed. Plus we've already spent tons of money rebuilding Iraq and if we just dropped a nuke that would be a waste of money.


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Re: should iraq be split up? [Re: Kenny7822]
    #3632098 - 01/15/05 07:16 PM (12 years, 4 months ago)

But are they really "innocent" though. First, let's look at the meaning of "innocent"...


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Re: should iraq be split up? [Re: zahudulallah]
    #3632104 - 01/15/05 07:17 PM (12 years, 4 months ago)

I'm not saying all the people are innocent but there are some. By innocent I mean people who are not harming anyone.


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Re: should iraq be split up? [Re: zahudulallah]
    #3632110 - 01/15/05 07:18 PM (12 years, 4 months ago)

innocent.
in?no?cent Audio pronunciation of "innocent" ( P ) Pronunciation Key (n-snt)
adj.

1. Uncorrupted by evil, malice, or wrongdoing; sinless: an innocent child.
2.
1. Not guilty of a specific crime or offense; legally blameless: was innocent of all charges.
2. Within, allowed by, or sanctioned by the law; lawful.
3.
1. Not dangerous or harmful; innocuous: an innocent prank.
2. Candid; straightforward: a child's innocent stare.
4.
1. Not experienced or worldly; naive.
2. Betraying or suggesting no deception or guile; artless.
5.
1. Not exposed to or familiar with something specified; ignorant: American tourists wholly innocent of French.
2. Unaware: She remained innocent of the complications she had caused.
6. Lacking, deprived, or devoid of something: a novel innocent of literary merit.


n.

1. A person, especially a child, who is free of evil or sin.
2. A simple, guileless, inexperienced, or unsophisticated person.
3. A very young child.


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Re: should iraq be split up? [Re: zahudulallah]
    #3632347 - 01/15/05 08:18 PM (12 years, 4 months ago)

what do you think?

and should they be communist or fundamentalist? or both?


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Re: should iraq be split up? [Re: ]
    #3632357 - 01/15/05 08:21 PM (12 years, 4 months ago)

It's up to them whether they want to be subjected to imperialist American captialism.


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Re: should iraq be split up? [Re: zahudulallah]
    #3632370 - 01/15/05 08:24 PM (12 years, 4 months ago)

actually it's up to the pentagon.  :smirk:

do you think that there can be a peaceful, unified iraq without a repressive government to hold it together?


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Re: should iraq be split up? [Re: ]
    #3632397 - 01/15/05 08:32 PM (12 years, 4 months ago)

Very good idea.


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Re: should iraq be split up? [Re: Kenny7822]
    #3632409 - 01/15/05 08:34 PM (12 years, 4 months ago)

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Then a lot of innocent people would be killed. Plus we've already spent tons of money rebuilding Iraq and if we just dropped a nuke that would be a waste of money.



i think at this point dropping a nuke is actually the cheapest option
and the US could recover some of its loses by asking for donations from other arab countries that never really liked iraq in the first place
and they could get basketball players to pledge 10000 for every point they score, like the tsunami relief effort


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Re: should iraq be split up? [Re: ]
    #3632507 - 01/15/05 08:58 PM (12 years, 4 months ago)

The Pentagon has a sinking ship that they're trying to keep afloat. They're bogged down. Insurgents pop out of wood work. This isn't like countering a Latin revolutionist coup.


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Re: should iraq be split up? [Re: zahudulallah]
    #3632622 - 01/15/05 09:22 PM (12 years, 4 months ago)

We don't have enough manpower to maintain anymore state boundaries right now. Each region would need to dedicate many people to protect their new border. It seems as if the shiias are somewhat grateful for us. If they can protect themselves in their new boundaries, then we can concentrate our forces on the "hostile regions".

We might find more allies if a part of Iraq declares independence and becomes somewhat peaceful.


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Re: should iraq be split up? [Re: YidakiMan]
    #3632799 - 01/15/05 10:16 PM (12 years, 4 months ago)

the kurdish region would be a good candidate for that.


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Re: should iraq be split up? [Re: ]
    #3633463 - 01/16/05 12:39 AM (12 years, 4 months ago)

aren't there kurds in turkey that would want to rebel if we gave them there own country
or something to that effect


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Re: should iraq be split up? [Re: zahudulallah]
    #3633811 - 01/16/05 02:28 AM (12 years, 4 months ago)

Why aren't the Arab nations tlaking about how to split America up? Oh thats right, I forgot that we have the superior technology and are whupping their asses.


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Re: should iraq be split up? [Re: ]
    #3634148 - 01/16/05 05:27 AM (12 years, 4 months ago)

Iraq's borders were defined by the British and the League of Nations after the defeat of the Ottoman Empire in WW1. The placement of the borders were more to do with the oilfields than the people.

Maybe it would not be carving up a country, rather fixing a past mistake.

Of course the world has changed a lot since then, turning back the clock would not be that simple.



http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_Iraq

Iraq was carved out of the old Ottoman Empire by direction of the UK government on January 10, 1919, and on November 11, 1920 it became a League of Nations mandate under British control with the name "State of Iraq".

At the end of the war, ownership of and access to Iraq's petroleum was split five ways: 23.75% each to the UK, France, The Netherlands and the USA, with the remaining 5% going to a private oil corporation headed by Calloused Gilbertina. The Iraqi government got none of the nation's oil. This remained the situation until the revolution of 1958.

The British government laid out the institutional framework for Iraqi government and politics; the Iraqi political system suffered from a severe legitimacy crisis; Britain imposed a Hashim monarchy, defined the territorial limits of Iraq with little correspondence to natural frontiers or traditional tribal and ethnic settlements, and influenced the writing of a constitution and the structure of parliament.


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