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5.7mm ammo?
    #3624135 - 01/13/05 06:14 PM (12 years, 6 months ago)

Local news talkin' about new cop killer ammo available for hand gun.. Google searched this. :eek: WTF??? Where do ya get one of these??


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Re: 5.7mm ammo? [Re: vinsue]
    #3624196 - 01/13/05 06:28 PM (12 years, 6 months ago)

Where do I get one of these?
http://hkpro.com/mp5k.htm


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Re: 5.7mm ammo? [Re: vinsue]
    #3624208 - 01/13/05 06:30 PM (12 years, 6 months ago)

guns don't kill people


bullets do


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Re: 5.7mm ammo? [Re: vinsue]
    #3624252 - 01/13/05 06:39 PM (12 years, 6 months ago)

http://www.ammoman.com/webstore_57x28.htm

pretty expensive stuff and thats not a typical handgun cartidge. hell if they wanna call a measly 5.7x28 'cop killer' then .233 (m16/ar15) or a 7.62x39 (ak47/sks) is a 'troop killer'. what a load of dramatic bullshit the news tries to pawn off as legitimate reporting. yes most of those rounds will go through several telephone books and minor kevlar protection, but come on, theres soooo many rounds that can do that. and a .22 could just as likely be a 'cop killer' if the person knows how to aim for the head.


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Re: 5.7mm ammo? [Re: Eightball]
    #3624278 - 01/13/05 06:44 PM (12 years, 6 months ago)

oh yeah, dont forget nicely available specialty ammo:
armor piercing tungsten .223: http://www.gunbroker.com/auction/ViewItem.asp?Item=26090106


and Super Incendiary HE Ammo http://www.gunbroker.com/auction/ViewItem.asp?Item=27709353


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Re: 5.7mm ammo? [Re: Jim]
    #3624301 - 01/13/05 06:47 PM (12 years, 6 months ago)

+1..... :thumbup:


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Re: 5.7mm ammo? [Re: Eightball]
    #3624330 - 01/13/05 06:53 PM (12 years, 6 months ago)

So this will kill AND cook ??? :crazy2:


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Re: 5.7mm ammo? [Re: vinsue]
    #3629366 - 01/14/05 07:22 PM (12 years, 6 months ago)

I think they're also talking about FN's 5.7mm pistol, which, as I recall, became available for import a little while ago. I read this crazy ass thread on ar15.com about it; apparently a few guys there got ahold of one and blasted through a level III rated vest, using JHP no less, and a few phonebooks. Only a fullsize version available now, but I saw one for myself this past weekend, and it's not that big. Cool toy if you happen to be into that kind of thing. I'll try to find the thread, it's pretty cool.


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Re: 5.7mm ammo? [Re: bjjrevol]
    #3629372 - 01/14/05 07:25 PM (12 years, 6 months ago)

I've heard of the P90.. known about them for years.. I think it comes from playing CounterStrike though :lol:


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Re: 5.7mm ammo? [Re: vinsue]
    #3629700 - 01/14/05 09:10 PM (12 years, 6 months ago)

that shit's for the P90 sub-machinegun and FiveseveN pistol. it's interesting stuff. made to be small like a pistol cartridge but cut through body armor like a rifle round. it's for military applications. it'd be pretty tough to get either a P90 or a FiveseveN as a civilian.

the stuff's been out for a while but it's not available for civilians. the hunting rifles that have existed for over a century make for more expedient cop-killers than weapons chambered for this ammunition. "the news" is (yet again) running an ill-informed, sensationalist story about firearms.


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Re: 5.7mm ammo? [Re: vinsue]
    #3629728 - 01/15/05 02:12 AM (12 years, 6 months ago)

Bit off topic, but check this

http://www.firequest.com/catalog/12_gauge_ammunition.html


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Re: 5.7mm ammo? [Re: JaRRn]
    #3629855 - 01/15/05 02:55 AM (12 years, 6 months ago)

Sweet Jeebus! Why do some of these ammos exist?
As if you need  special ammo to kill someone dead with a 12 gauge :smirk:


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Re: 5.7mm ammo? [Re: ]
    #3630575 - 01/15/05 12:18 PM (12 years, 6 months ago)

anyone with the right amount of money can buy either of those guns. the p90 is hard to find though.

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Re: 5.7mm ammo? [Re: eric_the_red]
    #3630579 - 01/15/05 12:20 PM (12 years, 6 months ago)

Think of what would happen if someone pulled a bank robbery with the inscendiary ammo. The possibilities are endless.


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Re: 5.7mm ammo? [Re: eric_the_red]
    #3630617 - 01/15/05 12:33 PM (12 years, 6 months ago)

Quote:

eric_the_red said:
anyone with the right amount of money can buy either of those guns. the p90 is hard to find though.

five seven




$2500 and its your's tonight plus no pesky paperwork. :devil: :lol:


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Re: 5.7mm ammo? [Re: eric_the_red]
    #3631125 - 01/15/05 02:48 PM (12 years, 6 months ago)

oops. don't quite remember where i heard that it was illegal, but i guess it makes sense that it isn't, at least not by any federal laws.

a FiveseveN pistol would be nice. 20 round magazine and armor piercing capability. nice.


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Re: 5.7mm ammo? [Re: JaRRn]
    #3631139 - 01/15/05 02:54 PM (12 years, 6 months ago)

hahaha.

"12 GA. Terminator-X

The lethality contained within the hollow core slug of our terminator 12 GA. almost can't be advertised. Upon impact, this slug mushrooms and expands to nearly 2 inches, stopping the slug from totally penetrating your objective. This rapid expansion forces the dozen of tiny pellets to spread through your objective like a cancerous disease, opening an area at the impact point equal to a softball! The cavity created has the shock effect of 95%! That means only 5% of any living being could survive this kind of hit."

i love the rambos. they are funny. the guy who writes this stuff probably gets a real kick out of doing it. 'spreads through your objective LIKE A CANCEROUS DISEASE'. hah. piranha? come on. most of this shit is a gimmick. regular old buckshot is where it's at. no need to pay 5 bucks a round for exotic ammo.


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Re: 5.7mm ammo? [Re: ]
    #3631154 - 01/15/05 02:58 PM (12 years, 6 months ago)

Yeah, most of that specialty shit is pretty funny.  00-buck is all the stopping power you'll ever need.  But some of those flame-thrower rounds might be fun to play with!  :grin:

The one thing that might be nice is to keep some of those flare rounds handy for your shotgun in case of emergency.


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Re: 5.7mm ammo? [Re: ToTheSummit]
    #3631162 - 01/15/05 03:02 PM (12 years, 6 months ago)

they're definitely fun to play with, but for business, buckshot is what you want. i've read some research that shows that 1 buck is better than 00. the smaller the pellets are, the greater the overall cross section of the load. it comes at a price of decreased penetration, but 1 buck penetrates fine.


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Re: 5.7mm ammo? [Re: vinsue]
    #3637141 - 01/17/05 12:48 AM (12 years, 6 months ago)

http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.asp?Item=27989910

Five Seven - 20 round magizines available
5.7x28mm round  ~45-50 cents each


wow.  this is an amazing gun i just happen to come across it browsing that one site and i remembered this thread.


edit: whoops i guess im a little late on the five seven info  :stoned:


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Edited by Eightball (01/17/05 12:52 AM)


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