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Offlinedeafpanda
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Looking to "god" for guidance...
    #3622573 - 01/13/05 10:12 AM (12 years, 7 months ago)

"God" has given us all the guidance we need by making the universe understandable. We have clear natural laws and logic to guide us. We do not need any external guidance. We have minds to make judgements. Why would "god" gives us methods for making judgements, and minds to apply these methods if, in reality, he wanted us to ask him the answers?


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Re: Looking to "god" for guidance... [Re: deafpanda]
    #3622734 - 01/13/05 11:24 AM (12 years, 7 months ago)

Perhaps god is trying to find the answers THROUGH us...


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Re: Looking to "god" for guidance... [Re: dr0mni]
    #3622804 - 01/13/05 11:52 AM (12 years, 7 months ago)

Perhaps God is the part of us which we have yet to bring into consciousness, and which is all powerful and supremely wise. :smile: Perhaps there is no external God out there.


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Re: Looking to "god" for guidance... [Re: the_phoenix]
    #3622807 - 01/13/05 11:56 AM (12 years, 7 months ago)

we are god and god is us.


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Re: Looking to "god" for guidance... [Re: deafpanda]
    #3622811 - 01/13/05 12:00 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

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deafpanda said:
"God" has given us all the guidance we need by making the universe understandable.  We have clear natural laws and logic to guide us.  We do not need any external guidance.  We have minds to make judgements.  Why would "god" gives us methods for making judgements, and minds to apply these methods if, in reality, he wanted us to ask him the answers?





aks yourself, just change "God" whit "You"..  :smile:
:heart:  :confused: :thumbup:


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Re: Looking to "god" for guidance... [Re: Gomp]
    #3622817 - 01/13/05 12:02 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

Don't get me wrong, I don't believe in an external god. You might even say I don't even believe in a god. I just believe that the universe is not all that exists.


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Re: Looking to "god" for guidance... [Re: deafpanda]
    #3625086 - 01/13/05 09:27 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

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deafpanda said:
"God" has [made] the universe understandable. We have clear natural laws and logic to guide us.




I think that's pretty debatable. not all natural laws are simple and clear, and there may be limits to Humanity's understanding.


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Re: Looking to "god" for guidance... [Re: Zekebomb]
    #3625121 - 01/13/05 09:33 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

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I think that's pretty debatable.




That's why I said it :wink:

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not all natural laws are simple and clear




Ok, instead of simple and clear make that uniform and expressable in maths.

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and there may be limits to Humanity's understanding.




Yeah, that is a big possibility.  I was not intending to say that we could really ever know anything about what the universe is really "for", and what, if anything is outside it.


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Re: Looking to "god" for guidance... [Re: deafpanda]
    #3625224 - 01/13/05 09:50 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

Remember, just because we have not witnessed non-conformities does not make them a non-reality -_-
The universe is expersible through math because we designed math to experss the universe -_-
I am insane -_-


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Re: Looking to "god" for guidance... [Re: jux]
    #3625748 - 01/13/05 11:31 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

yeah, were the numbers already there in the universe, waiting to be discovered by humans once we got smart enough? or did we create the numbers when we got smart enough?


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