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DID AMERICA CAUSE THE TSUNAMI???????
    #3622427 - 01/13/05 05:54 AM (19 years, 2 months ago)

I don't have any proof or any real reason to believe that the American government has the motive or the capability to cause a tsunami, and certainly no evidence to support this claim. Even if I did have a link it would just be some other assholes somewhere else talking out of their ass with nothing substantial to back up their assertion either, but...


:eek: :eek: :eek:OMFG!!! WHAT IF THEY DID?????? :eek: :eek: :eek:


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Re: DID AMERICA CAUSE THE TSUNAMI??????? [Re: Baby_Hitler]
    #3622440 - 01/13/05 06:09 AM (19 years, 2 months ago)

Why play the what if game? I'm sure some numbnut will make this argument if it hasn't already happened. Afterall, if it's written on the Internet it has to be true.


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Re: DID AMERICA CAUSE THE TSUNAMI??????? [Re: Innvertigo]
    #3622443 - 01/13/05 06:10 AM (19 years, 2 months ago)

Just remember, you heard it here first folks.


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Re: DID AMERICA CAUSE THE TSUNAMI??????? [Re: Baby_Hitler]
    #3622445 - 01/13/05 06:14 AM (19 years, 2 months ago)

Someone on this site (I can't remember who, Alzheimer's)tried to link it to terrorists I believe. A radio station (I believe in Egypt of Saudi Arabia) told their listeners that America caused the Tsunamis, like sheep I'm sure they followed him.


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Re: DID AMERICA CAUSE THE TSUNAMI??????? [Re: Innvertigo]
    #3622458 - 01/13/05 06:30 AM (19 years, 2 months ago)

If they don't straighten up over there, They're gonna make us hafta bring the moon crashing down on them!!!

MUUUAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHA!




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Re: DID AMERICA CAUSE THE TSUNAMI??????? [Re: Baby_Hitler]
    #3622468 - 01/13/05 06:37 AM (19 years, 2 months ago)

I'm already working on that. Also i've learned that the United States has programmed Haley's comet to hit Mecca the next time it comes around.


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Re: DID AMERICA CAUSE THE TSUNAMI??????? [Re: Innvertigo]
    #3622549 - 01/13/05 07:57 AM (19 years, 2 months ago)

Another A+ thread!!!

This forum is so cool.

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Re: DID AMERICA CAUSE THE TSUNAMI??????? [Re: deafpanda]
    #3622558 - 01/13/05 08:04 AM (19 years, 2 months ago)

sure guys u can laugh it up... but i guess u never herd of a guy names Nicolai Tesla?

The means most definetly DO exist and they are most likely
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Re: DID AMERICA CAUSE THE TSUNAMI??????? [Re: Vertigo6911]
    #3622566 - 01/13/05 08:08 AM (19 years, 2 months ago)

..and in marches the tin foil hat brigade.

:shiftyeyes: :shiftyeyes: :shiftyeyes: :shiftyeyes: :shiftyeyes: :shiftyeyes:


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Re: DID AMERICA CAUSE THE TSUNAMI??????? [Re: Innvertigo]
    #3622595 - 01/13/05 08:21 AM (19 years, 2 months ago)

hehee

No matter what bull I hear about there being no 'tsunami warning system' I just can't believe that seismologists who are constantly monitoring seismic activity couldn't get on the blower.

It's physics that a scale 9 earthquake that happens at sea will generate a tsunami. Surely when the earthquake registered those biys who watch and compile the information could be pretty damn definite that a tsunami would have been generated and estimate approximately how long it would have taken to reach each shoreline in it's path.
All it then takes is a couple of phonecalls and the local police etc could have gone down the beaches, around the towns etc just politely telling everyone to 'HEAD FOR THE HILLS coz in about 2 hours...'

Maybe I am crazy....but it does strike me as odd...didn't want to cause a panic I suppose! lol

Anyway it was the French that caused it! (One up for the USA), not deliberately....but letting all those multi-megaton bombs off in the earth's crust, under the seas, down that way. Vibrations and rock slippage that built up tension on fault lines eventually gave way....and this is the result. Chew on that!

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Re: DID AMERICA CAUSE THE TSUNAMI??????? [Re: Vertigo6911]
    #3622606 - 01/13/05 08:24 AM (19 years, 2 months ago)

Thomas Edison ate Tesla's soul and took it back to hell with him.

I know because a psychic vagrant told me.


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Re: DID AMERICA CAUSE THE TSUNAMI??????? [Re: CJay]
    #3622610 - 01/13/05 08:26 AM (19 years, 2 months ago)

Do you have a link to anything about underwater nuclear testing in that area?


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Re: DID AMERICA CAUSE THE TSUNAMI??????? [Re: CJay]
    #3622611 - 01/13/05 08:26 AM (19 years, 2 months ago)

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No matter what bull I hear about there being no 'tsunami warning system' I just can't believe that seismologists who are constantly monitoring seismic activity couldn't get on the blower.




What bull is that? They don't have a early warning system since the likelyhood of tsunalis in that area pale in comparison to those found in the pacific rim countries and the pacific ocean in general. They did contact people but it was too late. But the minutes it took for the Tsunamis to hit doesn't leave you with a lot of time to form an evacuation strategy. They discussed this on the Discovery channel the other day. Besides it's much easier to blame France.


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Re: DID FRANCE CAUSE THE TSUNAMI??????? [Re: Baby_Hitler]
    #3622628 - 01/13/05 08:37 AM (19 years, 2 months ago)

International community blasts tests....

According to the French Defense Ministry, the prime objective of the tests was "to guarantee the security and viability" of France's nuclear arsenal.

"We're not against France and the French people, but we are against (the French decision to continue testing)," said Australian Prime Minister Paul Keating. "We want to see no more tests. We want the French to clean up their act. We want them to apologize, and we want them to join the rest of us in clearing the world of these dreadful weapons."

In Hiroshima, Japan, where more than 140,000 people were killed by a U.S. atomic bomb on August 6, 1945, the city's mayor issued a strong protest. "To strengthen one's nuclear arsenal at a time when we are searching for a world without nuclear weapons is an act betraying the international community," said Mayor Takashi Hiraoka.

Greenpeace Coordinator Lynette Thorstensen said the explosion was "highly insulting for all the peace-loving people of the Pacific." She noted that the bomb that was dropped on Hiroshima "was 13 kilotons and this today was 110."

French authorities kept mum, except for brief comment from the Foreign Ministry in Paris. "Every test has its own value," said spokesman Jacques Rummelhardt.




From 1966 to 1990, 167 French nuclear test explosions have been performed on two atolls in French Polynesia, Morurua and Fangataua. Of the 167 tests, 44 were atmospheric. Atmospheric explosions were carried out until 1974, but only underground tests after that. The underground tests have been conducted at the bottom of shafts bored 500-1200 meters into the basalt core of the atoll. Initially these shafts were drilled in the outer rim of the atoll. In 1981, most likely due to the weakening of that rim, the tests with higher yields were shifted to shafts drilled under the lagoon itself.

Q: What are the effects of underwater nuclear testing?

A: To quote from a 1995 case brought against the French government, Case T-219/95 R, by Marie-Th?r?se Danielsson, Pierre Largenteau and Edwin Haoa, all residing in Tahiti, French Polynesia: "Short-term effects include geological damage and the venting of gaseous and volatile fission products into the biosphere. Nuclear tests, the applicants say, can cause landslides and did indeed cause a major underwater landslide at Mururoa in 1979, when a nuclear device was exploded after jamming half-way down its shaft. Since the geology of Mururoa is already unstable due to large-scale fracturing caused by previous tests, further major landslides are likely. Such landslides in the past have given rise to tsunamis causing coastal damage in areas as far away as Pitcairn and Tahiti and endangering residences such as that of Ms. Danielsson. They can also release radioactive material into the sea, with catastrophic effects on the food chain in an area such as French Polynesia where fish is an important part of the diet.

Q: Can landslides create tsunamis?

A: Research on underwater landslides is new and it is only in recent years that the potentially catastrophic results of a landslide have become known. Dr Summerhayes, Director of the Institute of Oceanographic Sciences in the United Kingdom, is quoted in the Independent Newspaper on 9 September 1995 as saying that volcanic islands like Mururoa were:

"... inherently unstable and may fail given an appropriate trigger like an earthquake or a very large explosion. Failure is likely to cause a giant submarine landslide which may demolish parts of the island and could create a tidal wave that may itself damage coastal installations on other islands nearby."

mmmkay

well they were on the pacific side of Indonesia....but that area is a hive of plate boundries and rock stresses and ripples of shockwaves extend in every direction to a nearby area of slippage....

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Re: DID AMERICA CAUSE THE TSUNAMI??????? [Re: Innvertigo]
    #3622647 - 01/13/05 08:46 AM (19 years, 2 months ago)

hee hee

It did take a couple of hours or so for the tsunamis to hit most areas...not mere minutes...It would have taken a couple of minutes to call the leaders of those countries when the seismographs started going mad..

But like you say...it would have been mayhem either way....still...who knows how mny would have got far enough inland, or high enough to survive.

Some of the shots u see taken by tourists are from the 6th 7th floors of their luxury hotels...down below on the gardens the pool cleaners, waiters etc are all running away from the encroaching waves...

When the camera pans around to the hotel...it looks empty...

2 hours is enough time to get plenty people in those rows of huge buildings on some of those coasts.

Undeveloped parts with no high rises....no chance :crazy2:

Edited by CJay (01/13/05 09:07 AM)

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Re: DID AMERICA CAUSE THE TSUNAMI??????? [Re: CJay]
    #3622651 - 01/13/05 08:48 AM (19 years, 2 months ago)

:shiftyeyes:

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Re: DID AMERICA CAUSE THE TSUNAMI??????? [Re: CJay]
    #3622668 - 01/13/05 08:56 AM (19 years, 2 months ago)

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It did take a couple of hours or so for the tsunamis to hit...not mere minutes...




I guess that all depends on where you were. Actually the warning system for tsunamis are run by ALL pacific rim countries (or atleast the more developed) not just the US.

think about it though? They didn't even know if there was going to be a tsunami because the buoys weren't in place, fortunatly not all quakes cause tsunamis. The quake that caused this one was upgraded, i believe, three times before they agreed on the final of 8.9 (i believe this is what it was.)


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Re: DID AMERICA CAUSE THE TSUNAMI??????? [Re: Innvertigo]
    #3622697 - 01/13/05 09:08 AM (19 years, 2 months ago)

ahhh - u got that b4 my edit

It did take a couple of hours or so for the tsunamis to hit most areas.

yeah well - it's fun to speculate....

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Re: DID AMERICA CAUSE THE TSUNAMI??????? [Re: Baby_Hitler]
    #3622711 - 01/13/05 09:12 AM (19 years, 2 months ago)

they did it in iran, they did it in indo.

mecca is next.


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Re: DID AMERICA CAUSE THE TSUNAMI??????? [Re: Innvertigo]
    #3622753 - 01/13/05 09:32 AM (19 years, 2 months ago)

that being said...if it took minutes to hit one area, surely when the screams and radio maydays came flying in, it could have been easily estimatable that it would take say 2hrs or whatever to hit further coastlines...and the message could have been sent to those areas.

Probably would have caused riots and roadblocks galore!

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Re: DID AMERICA CAUSE THE TSUNAMI??????? [Re: CJay]
    #3622831 - 01/13/05 10:12 AM (19 years, 2 months ago)

wouldn't it of been easier for the local countries to do the calling?


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Re: DID AMERICA CAUSE THE TSUNAMI??????? [Re: Innvertigo]
    #3624485 - 01/13/05 05:26 PM (19 years, 2 months ago)

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Someone on this site (I can't remember who, Alzheimer's)tried to link it to terrorists I believe. A radio station (I believe in Egypt of Saudi Arabia) told their listeners that America caused the Tsunamis, like sheep I'm sure they followed him.




I put a link about America, Israel and I think India causing the earthquake by testing a nuclear device. The thread was deleted. A moderator PMed me and told me they deleted it.

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Re: DID AMERICA CAUSE THE TSUNAMI??????? [Re: Baby_Hitler]
    #3624502 - 01/13/05 05:30 PM (19 years, 2 months ago)

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Do you have a link to anything about underwater nuclear testing in that area?




Here's a link http://www.memri.org/bin/articles.cgi?Page=countries&Area=egypt&ID=SP84205


Egyptian Nationalist Weekly: U.S.-Israel-India Nuclear Testing May have Caused Asian Tsunami; The Goal: Testing how to Liquidate Humanity

The Egyptian nationalist weekly Al-Usbu' has published an investigation by correspondent Mahmoud Bakri, titled "Humanity in Danger," claiming that the earthquake and tsunami in Asia may have resulted from joint nuclear testing by the U.S., Israel, and India. The following are excerpts from the article:

"Was [the earthquake] caused by American, Israeli, and Indian nuclear testing on 'the day of horror?' Why did the 'Ring of Fire' explode?

"? According to researchers' estimates, there are two possible [explanations] for what happened. The first is a natural, divine move, because the region is in the 'Ring of Fire,' a region subject to this destructive type of earthquakes.

" The second possibility is that it was some kind of human intervention that destabilized the tectonic plates, an intervention that is caused only in nuclear experiments and explosions. What strengthens this direction [of thought] are the tectonic plates [under] Indian soil [ sic ], since in the recent few months, India conducted over seven nuclear tests to strengthen its nuclear program against the Pakistani [nuclear program].

"[Various] reports have proven that the tectonic plates in India and Australia collided with the tectonic plates of Europe and Asia. [It has also been proven] that India recently obtained high[-level] nuclear technology, and a number of Israeli nuclear experts and several American research centers were [involved in preparing this].

"The three most recent tests appeared to be genuine American and Israeli preparations to act together with India to test a way to liquidate humanity. In the[ir] most recent test, they began destroying entire cities over extensive areas. Although the nuclear explosions were carried out in desert lands, tens of thousands of kilometers away from populated areas, they had a direct effect on these areas.

"Since 1992, many research [institutes] monitoring earthquakes across the world, such as the International Center for the [Study] of Earthquakes [sic] in Britain and in Turkey and other countries, [indicated] the importance of no nuclear testing in the 'Ring of Fire,' where the most recent earthquake struck, because this region is thought to be one of the most geologically active regions over millions of years. Thus, the international centers have always classified it as one of the most dangerous regions [and] likely to shift at any given moment, even without human interference.

"But the scientific reports stated that there had been nuclear activity in this region ? particularly after America's recent decision to rely largely on the Australian desert ? part of which is inside the 'Ring of Fire' ? for its secret nuclear testing.

"Similarly, many international reports spoke of joint Indian-Israeli nuclear activity. Moreover, only this year Arab and Islamic countries intervened more than three times in the U.S. to stop this joint nuclear activity.

"Nevertheless, although so far it has not been proven that secret Indian-Israeli nuclear testing is what caused the destructive earthquake, there is evidence that the recent nuclear tests, the exchange of nuclear experts between India and Israel, and the American pressure on Pakistan regarding its nuclear cooperation with Asian and Islamic countries [by providing India with advanced nuclear technology in an attempt to stop Pakistani activity] ? all these pose a big question mark regarding the causes of the severe earthquake in Asia.

"Scientific studies prove that there is increasing nuclear activity under the waters of the oceans and seas ? and that America is the first country in the world responsible for this activity. This raises an enormous question mark? What is puzzling is that all the previous earthquakes did not cause such great destruction [as this one], particularly [in light of the fact that] the earthquake's center was some 40 kilometers under the seabed of the Indian Ocean.

"One of the American researchers, Merrills Kinsey, [5] pointed out an important fact in the scientific report that he prepared after the last disaster, which is that the center of an earthquake that took place some 40 kilometers under the ocean floor could not have caused such destruction unless nuclear testing had been conducted close to the tectonic plates in these countries, or unless several days previously there had been [nuclear] activity that caused these plates to shift and collide ? which constitutes a danger to all humanity, not only to the inhabitants of these countries?" [6]



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Re: DID AMERICA CAUSE THE TSUNAMI??????? [Re: Great_Satan]
    #3624880 - 01/13/05 06:59 PM (19 years, 2 months ago)

This link contains speculative analysis on the quake's causes. The author says they may have been caused by oil rigs' sonar bombs while testing for oil fields. Even if that sounds too far out to believe, it is worth checking the link for siesmological data.
http://serendipity.li/more/limburg01.htm


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Re: DID AMERICA CAUSE THE TSUNAMI??????? [Re: Baby_Hitler]
    #3626084 - 01/13/05 11:03 PM (19 years, 2 months ago)

BH, the first time I see a SERIOUS thread about this subject, I'm linking them to THIS thread.

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Re: DID AMERICA CAUSE THE TSUNAMI??????? [Re: Innvertigo]
    #3626462 - 01/14/05 12:14 AM (19 years, 2 months ago)

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What bull is that? They don't have a early warning system since the likelyhood of tsunalis in that area pale in comparison to those found in the pacific rim countries and the pacific ocean in general. They did contact people but it was too late. But the minutes it took for the Tsunamis to hit doesn't leave you with a lot of time to form an evacuation strategy. They discussed this on the Discovery channel the other day. Besides it's much easier to blame France.




How do you know that?

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Re: DID AMERICA CAUSE THE TSUNAMI??????? [Re: faslimy]
    #3626479 - 01/14/05 12:17 AM (19 years, 2 months ago)

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faslimy said:
How do you know that?
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They discussed this on the Discovery channel the other day.  Besides








Let's READ the posts we quote. :smirk:


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Re: DID AMERICA CAUSE THE TSUNAMI??????? [Re: Rose]
    #3626536 - 01/14/05 12:31 AM (19 years, 2 months ago)

I was well aware of the contents of his post, that is not sufficient

The question remains

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Re: DID AMERICA CAUSE THE TSUNAMI??????? [Re: faslimy]
    #3626914 - 01/14/05 01:58 AM (19 years, 2 months ago)

OK, it has been covered by almost every media source in the world, and discussed by the Nation's leaders... in the effected area. I'd provide links, but that one's TOO easy... find 'em yourself. No Tsunami warning system in the Indian ocean. None in the Atlantic either.


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Re: DID AMERICA CAUSE THE TSUNAMI??????? [Re: Rose]
    #3627198 - 01/14/05 03:01 AM (19 years, 2 months ago)

You mean to tell all the platonic (whatever you call it) movements of earth arent constantly being measured and monitored. Is a 'tsunami warning system' even necessary? What the hell is a tsunami warning system anyway? I don't believe for a second that no one had any idea that a gigantic earthquake was coming..

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Re: DID AMERICA CAUSE THE TSUNAMI??????? [Re: faslimy]
    #3627216 - 01/14/05 03:07 AM (19 years, 2 months ago)

i think they have about 60-90% covered. that part doesn't have a warning system set up.


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Re: DID AMERICA CAUSE THE TSUNAMI??????? [Re: HELLA_TIGHT]
    #3627220 - 01/14/05 03:08 AM (19 years, 2 months ago)

Why the fuck not? They can spend billions upon billiosn of dollars on pointless shit but not in an extra earthquake detector computer


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Re: DID AMERICA CAUSE THE TSUNAMI??????? [Re: faslimy]
    #3627332 - 01/14/05 03:43 AM (19 years, 2 months ago)

joo should be banned from this forum for posting in bad faith and flame-baiting.  :smile2:









Edit: Meant for Baby_Hitler, the creator of thish abomination of proganda!  :smirk:


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Re: DID AMERICA CAUSE THE TSUNAMI??????? [Re: Innvertigo]
    #3627348 - 01/14/05 03:49 AM (19 years, 2 months ago)

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wouldn't it of been easier for the local countries to do the calling?




Oh yeh - I'm not blaming this on the US, I just mean whoever got the news first so to speak.

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Re: DID AMERICA CAUSE THE TSUNAMI??????? [Re: faslimy]
    #3627483 - 01/14/05 06:08 AM (19 years, 2 months ago)

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I was well aware of the contents of his post, that is not sufficient

The question remains




I guess that's your problem.

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You mean to tell all the platonic (whatever you call it) movements of earth arent constantly being measured and monitored. Is a 'tsunami warning system' even necessary?




Noone said that platonic movements (Earthquakes) aren't monitored, Earthquakes are one thing and tsunamis are other.

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Is a 'tsunami warning system' even necessary? What the hell is a tsunami warning system anyway?




that's probably something you should find out before telling me to provide more proof. It is VERY necessary in the pacific since most of the earth quakes happen there with the potential of tsunamis. Ask if Japan finds the warning system neccesary.

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I don't believe for a second that no one had any idea that a gigantic earthquake was coming..




they call that ignorance.


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Re: DID AMERICA CAUSE THE TSUNAMI??????? [Re: CJay]
    #3627485 - 01/14/05 06:10 AM (19 years, 2 months ago)

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Oh yeh - I'm not blaming this on the US, I just mean whoever got the news first so to speak




Hopefully from this we will have more warning systems in place and a better understanding of the time and frequecy of these events, unfortunatly not everyting can be predicted.


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Re: DID AMERICA CAUSE THE TSUNAMI??????? [Re: Baby_Hitler]
    #3627540 - 01/14/05 07:05 AM (19 years, 2 months ago)

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DID AMERICA CAUSE THE TSUNAMI???????




Of course they did, they are initiating a global War on Tsunamism  :thumbdown:

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Re: DID AMERICA CAUSE THE TSUNAMI??????? [Re: Young_but_cool]
    #3627597 - 01/14/05 07:33 AM (19 years, 2 months ago)

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Of course they did, they are initiating a global War on Tsunamism


 

*rim shot* :thumbup:


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Re: DID AMERICA CAUSE THE TSUNAMI??????? [Re: Innvertigo]
    #3627619 - 01/14/05 07:50 AM (19 years, 2 months ago)

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Innvertigo said:
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Of course they did, they are initiating a global War on Tsunamism


 

*rim shot* :thumbup:




there are actualy some conflicting stories in the media but Bush plans on going ahead with his world domination plans


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Re: DID AMERICA CAUSE THE TSUNAMI??????? [Re: faslimy]
    #3627672 - 01/14/05 08:25 AM (19 years, 2 months ago)

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faslimy said:
You mean to tell all the platonic (whatever you call it)




its called plate tektonics

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Re: DID AMERICA CAUSE THE TSUNAMI??????? [Re: faslimy]
    #3627676 - 01/14/05 08:28 AM (19 years, 2 months ago)

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You mean to tell all the platonic (whatever you call it)




its called plate tektonics

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Re: DID AMERICA CAUSE THE TSUNAMI??????? [Re: Baby_Hitler]
    #3627843 - 01/14/05 10:37 AM (19 years, 2 months ago)

of course the bush administration earlier found links to Al Qaeda



my belief is that the US was behind the whole thing.


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Re: DID AMERICA CAUSE THE TSUNAMI??????? [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #3628936 - 01/14/05 03:21 PM (19 years, 2 months ago)

America caused the tsunami? Probably not, but maybe China or another Asiatic country was doing nuke tests? Maybe Russia lost another nuclear submarine. Or if you would believe it- maybe it was naturally caused.

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Re: DID AMERICA CAUSE THE TSUNAMI??????? [Re: California]
    #3630483 - 01/15/05 09:38 AM (19 years, 2 months ago)

Whatever the cause was it's geography to know a tsunami will come after a quake like this...you don't need a so called "tsunami warning system" to tell you it is coming from an event like this, you need it just to tell you what direction it is going in.

When seismologists saw the shockwaves...seismologists all around the world knew there would be at least one ensuing tsunami...but not how it would travel.

This quake moved the whole island of Sumatra 100m! That is m-a-s-s-i-v-e

There was a huge quake deep underground that move the nearby landmasses significantly. This will caus e a tsunami. Physical geography.

I mean you fill up your sink and put a pile of rocks in it that at it's height emaerges as an island and pull a few aside so the whole mass moves somewhat...notice what happens to the surface of the hitherto still water.

This was known after the scale 9 quake hit, the local governments didn't want to cause panic/disruption of the tourist industry. No one knew exactly how big the wave would be or what direction it would head - but for sure there would be some pretty big freakin waves one way or another.

As it happens everyone got fucked.

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Re: DID AMERICA CAUSE THE TSUNAMI??????? [Re: CJay]
    #3630492 - 01/15/05 09:42 AM (19 years, 2 months ago)

How are the people on the beaches supposed to find this out... by putting a shell to their ear? :smirk:


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Re: DID AMERICA CAUSE THE TSUNAMI??????? [Re: Baby_Hitler]
    #3630581 - 01/15/05 10:22 AM (19 years, 2 months ago)


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Re: DID AMERICA CAUSE THE TSUNAMI??????? [Re: Baby_Hitler]
    #3630622 - 01/15/05 10:36 AM (19 years, 2 months ago)

I suppose I'll have to answer the question with a question:
Did the Mayans invent television?

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Re: DID AMERICA CAUSE THE TSUNAMI??????? [Re: Land_Crab]
    #3630688 - 01/15/05 10:58 AM (19 years, 2 months ago)

A: No, the aliens gave it to them.


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Re: DID AMERICA CAUSE THE TSUNAMI??????? [Re: Baby_Hitler]
    #3631697 - 01/15/05 03:36 PM (19 years, 2 months ago)

Oh, don't be ridiculous.  :cuckoo:  If it looks like a zombie, smells like a zombie, and is making crunchpatties out of your skull - brother, it's a zombie.

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Re: DID AMERICA CAUSE THE TSUNAMI??????? [Re: Land_Crab]
    #3636160 - 01/16/05 07:04 PM (19 years, 2 months ago)

it could be a sasquatch in ZombieGear?

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Re: DID AMERICA CAUSE THE TSUNAMI??????? [Re: Baby_Hitler]
    #3637862 - 01/17/05 06:05 AM (19 years, 2 months ago)

It's quite simple, the local police forces go out and speak calmly but firmly into megaphones.

The police HQ in seaside town gets a 30 second phonecall from the authorities (central government, who have themselves been warned of the possibility of tsunamis within minutes of the quake) warning of the possible tsunami. Policemen take less than one minute to grab jackets or whatever and megaphone.

Policeman steps outside door and begins speaking. Since after all, the beaches have a lot less people on them than the towns have in them. Policemen continue issuing warnings advising people to head inland and for high ground, but to remain calm and steady. Policemen apprehend local tuk tuk man as he passes or get in their own vehicles - continue issuing warnings as they drive around the town/to the beach if possible.

Then they themselves start heading inland, issuing warnings as they go.

Perhaps the central government also has a few office administrators phoning hotels etc warning them all the while. Not only this, TV + radio broadcasts could have been stopped immediately by the government upon warnings from the global seismologist community in order that they broadcast warnings.

I think a lot of people would have got the message that way - sure it was always gonna be a tragedy and many thousands would still have been washed off the beaches and through the streets to their deaths, but after the quake the tsunami took 2-3 hours to hit India and Sri Lanka, the wave took about an hour and a quarter to reach Thailand; six or seven hours before reaching the coast of Africa....

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besides its technical attractions, the network also relies on instant communications, using a database of private mobile telephone numbers of key points of contact in all the countries hit by the tsunami. So there would be no excuse that nobody knows who to warn, as we've heard in soul-searching over the Sumatran disaster.





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Would those monitoring stations in Thailand and Indonesia have detected this event?

PETER MARSHALL: Oh yes, indeed, without doubt. All 50 elements of the IMS seismic system would have picked up this event very promptly. In fact, Chiang Mai - I'm not quite sure what the distance is to Chiang Mai, but it's not very far, and the seismic waves propagate with such a high velocity that, within a few minutes, they will have detected it and it will appear very large - if somebody is in and monitoring it.




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We have been doing what we could do under the circumstance, and this is those who have connections to us and wanted to have the data got the data...
But I don't think we would have been able - even if we would have warned them that there was this quake - I mean, took the telephone and give them an extra warning - I don't think we would have been able to avoid the catastrophe, because people on the shore have not been informed.





It was gonna go down bad no matter what....but some difference would certainly have been made if there was response by governments who had the data.

who knows...

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Re: DID AMERICA CAUSE THE TSUNAMI??????? [Re: California]
    #3637863 - 01/17/05 06:05 AM (19 years, 2 months ago)

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Or if you would believe it- maybe it was naturally caused.




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Re: DID AMERICA CAUSE THE TSUNAMI??????? [Re: Innvertigo]
    #3638479 - 01/17/05 10:57 AM (19 years, 2 months ago)

how come this last page is not showing up on the index?....maybe it will if I post this

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    #3638482 - 01/17/05 10:57 AM (19 years, 2 months ago)

there we go

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