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Indonesia to US -- "Thanks. Now beat it."
    #3621087 - 01/13/05 12:11 AM (12 years, 7 months ago)

Some excerpts from http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=st...n_re_as/tsunami ((a lot more at the link -- you should read the whole thing)

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BANDA ACEH, Indonesia - Indonesia announced that U.S. and other foreign troops providing tsunami disaster relief must leave the country by the end of March and ordered aid workers Wednesday to declare their travel plans or face expulsion from devastated Aceh province on Sumatra island.


The government?s moves highlight its sensitivities over a foreign military operation in this country ? albeit a humanitarian one ? and underscore its efforts to regain control of Aceh province, the scene of a decades-old conflict between separatist rebels and federal troops accused of human rights abuses.


The latest restrictions placed on the international presence came as the aircraft carrier leading the U.S. military?s tsunami relief effort steamed out of Indonesian waters Wednesday after the government declined to let the ship?s fighter pilots use its airspace for training missions. The USS Abraham Lincoln?s diversion was not expected to affect aid flights, however.


U.S. Marines have also scaled back their plans to send hundreds of troops ashore to build roads and clear rubble. The two sides reached a compromise in which the Americans agreed not to set up a base camp on Indonesia or carry weapons.


Instead, the Marines ? some 2,000 of whom were diverted to tsunami relief from duty in Iraq ? will keep a ?minimal footprint? in the country, with most returning to ships at night, said Col. Tom Greenwood, commander of the 15th Marine Expeditionary Unit.


In Washington, the White House asked the Indonesian government to explain why it was demanding that the U.S. military and other foreign troops providing disaster relief leave the country by March 31.


?We?ve seen the reports. ... We?ll seek further clarification from Indonesia about what this means,? said Scott McClellan, press secretary to President Bush. ?We hope that the government of Indonesia and the military in Indonesia will continue the strong support they have provided to the international relief efforts so far.?




Hey, why wait till March? Bail now. I'm sure their co-religionists in Saudi Arabia and Qatar will provide all the aid Indonesia needs.

Muslim hospitality and Muslim hostility sure looks an awful lot alike. So much so there?s no discernible difference between the two. Maybe these people should be left to their fate. Let their Allah provide for them. After all the brutal murders that have been committed in his name, surely he owes them at least a few morsels of food and maybe a road or two.




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Re: Indonesia to US -- "Thanks. Now beat it." [Re: Phred]
    #3621114 - 01/13/05 12:15 AM (12 years, 7 months ago)

Sad.


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Re: Indonesia to US -- "Thanks. Now beat it." [Re: SoopaX]
    #3621145 - 01/13/05 12:20 AM (12 years, 7 months ago)

But not unexpected.



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Re: Indonesia to US -- "Thanks. Now beat it." [Re: Phred]
    #3621849 - 01/13/05 03:01 AM (12 years, 7 months ago)

While I agree that is pretty messed up that they accept aid, then bite the hand that feeds them...I can hardly blame them. The U.S. hasn't exactly been making alot friends lately...The mere sight of U.S. troops on their soil must be somewhat disconcerting considering their only use lately has been that of conquest.


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Re: Indonesia to US -- "Thanks. Now beat it." [Re: Rono]
    #3621876 - 01/13/05 03:06 AM (12 years, 7 months ago)

Imperialism for life, nigglet.

Recognize or go to Canada. :crazy:


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Re: Indonesia to US -- "Thanks. Now beat it." [Re: Adamist]
    #3621888 - 01/13/05 03:07 AM (12 years, 7 months ago)

Ummm....I am in Canada. :smirk:


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Re: Indonesia to US -- "Thanks. Now beat it." [Re: Rono]
    #3622033 - 01/13/05 03:41 AM (12 years, 7 months ago)

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(Indonesia)is not the only affected country that is ambivalent about U.S. military aid.

After the earthquake and tsunami, the U.S. military dispatched the Abraham Lincoln battle group to Sumatra and three ships carrying Marines toward Sri Lanka, where more than 30,000 people were killed. But two ships carrying Marines were diverted to Sumatra after Sri Lanka downgraded its request for help. India, where more than 10,000 were killed, rebuffed U.S. aid offers.




Gotta wonder why the world dont even want your help guys  :confused: :confused: :confused: :confused: :confused: :confused: :confused: :confused: :confused:


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Re: Indonesia to US -- "Thanks. Now beat it." [Re: trev]
    #3622160 - 01/13/05 04:23 AM (12 years, 7 months ago)

Bitter idiots, that's why.
No matter what this country does, it will only cause more people to hate it.. it's just a matter of which people at which time. It's the hip thing to do yanno.


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Re: Indonesia to US -- "Thanks. Now beat it." [Re: Mushmonkey]
    #3622197 - 01/13/05 04:44 AM (12 years, 7 months ago)

you're right mushmonkey, you yanks dont seem to be able to do anything right lately, so how about you just stop interferring in other people's countries, even stop giving aid, if they dont want your help then thats better for the yanks innit? less cost


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Re: Indonesia to US -- "Thanks. Now beat it." [Re: JacquesSauniere]
    #3622329 - 01/13/05 05:48 AM (12 years, 7 months ago)

Maybe Ole GWB made a few passing remarks to the Indonesian President about Indonesian oil...and since Indonesia is already getting shafted by Oz on that one, he just flipped and said - OUT!

Pay them a fair wage for making the West's sports gear (and their oil) ...they might be able to look after themselves then and pride as well as attempts at self sufficiency might not be such an issue.

Policeman of the world - (well meaning??? but) corrupt and untrusted.

Fund the Red Cross and MSF to get in there...it might be a bit less threatening than the world's biggest, mightiest and clumsiest military - that loves stomping on Muslim countries.

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Re: Indonesia to US -- "Thanks. Now beat it." [Re: CJay]
    #3622409 - 01/13/05 07:27 AM (12 years, 7 months ago)

"Pay them a fair wage for making the West's sports gear (and their oil) ...they might be able to look after themselves then and pride as well as attempts at self sufficiency might not be such an issue. "

That is something for THEM to do.

If they want minimum wage laws in their country -- THEY CAN MAKE THEM! Those in power can, at least. That's a shitton more than I can do. It's not my place to create laws in other countries. If they have no minimum wage law, how could I deem what should be acceptable? I know how much money _I_ need to make to survive, but I'm less than clueless how much it takes to survive in Boonies, Indonesia. Maybe it's $1 usd a day! I don't know.

Jaques you need to cool off about america and read what I posted -- not that everything America does is wrong (and not that everything America does is right).. but rather that no matter what IS done, it will greatly upset and offend a great deal of people across the world. If we don't do that, those people might not get upset, but others will. If we do something else, those two might be ok, but a third group pops up all indignent.. you see what I'm getting at, here. We're the big bad country on the planet -- that's what everyone's told right. We're popular to hate. C'mon, be hip, burn this flag with me.
It's not about reason, here. I think you forgot that.


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Re: Indonesia to US -- "Thanks. Now beat it." [Re: Mushmonkey]
    #3622417 - 01/13/05 07:39 AM (12 years, 7 months ago)

erm i think you forget one thing mushmonkey - IRAQ?

i wasnt heated in the first place, i was just saying perhaps this is good for america, its help is not needed, so how about america save itself the cost and concentrate on problem within its own country perhaps? no matter how rich, all countries have their own issues to deal with so with that perhaps this is time for american to concentrate on itself more as it seems quite obvious countries from the outside are rejecting its help. im sure if american were to leave indonesia straight away with all its troops no one will really complain, so in this instant it can be seen to be doing something right for once. it also shows comprehension from the amercian side. but knowing the drama queens, they will kick up a stink.


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Re: Indonesia to US -- "Thanks. Now beat it." [Re: Mushmonkey]
    #3622422 - 01/13/05 07:46 AM (12 years, 7 months ago)

You could choose to make purchaces only from businesses who paid them a "living wage". That would be better than them passing some restrictive law that would probably be cutting their own throats.


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Re: Indonesia to US -- "Thanks. Now beat it." [Re: Rono]
    #3622432 - 01/13/05 08:03 AM (12 years, 7 months ago)

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The mere sight of U.S. troops on their soil must be somewhat disconcerting considering their only use lately has been that of conquest




it sure beats seeing rotting corpses on your homeland. Yet another reason the United States needs to be an isolationist society.(to a point)


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Re: Indonesia to US -- "Thanks. Now beat it." [Re: Phred]
    #3622681 - 01/13/05 11:03 AM (12 years, 7 months ago)

You're Welcome!


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Re: Indonesia to US -- "Thanks. Now beat it." [Re: Phred]
    #3623115 - 01/13/05 01:54 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

"Let their Allah provide them"?

Your posts have gotten increasingly more ***edited by Rono*** you're treading a very thin line here...***, pinky since my vacation from PAL. I say this because on True Christians unite, the most thick headed religionists on the Western spectrum were saying the exact same you said in regard to the Asian disaster. You're brighter than this, pinky. Where are those well-researched posts you used to put up half a year ago? What happened, pinky?


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Re: Indonesia to US -- "Thanks. Now beat it." [Re: zahudulallah]
    #3623315 - 01/13/05 02:45 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

This forum has gone to shit, thats what.


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Re: Indonesia to US -- "Thanks. Now beat it." [Re: 1stimer]
    #3623327 - 01/13/05 02:47 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

I agree.


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Re: Indonesia to US -- "Thanks. Now beat it." [Re: deafpanda]
    #3623333 - 01/13/05 02:49 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

All that there is here now is posts linking to articles without any real comment apart from a few snide jabs.


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Re: Indonesia to US -- "Thanks. Now beat it." [Re: Phred]
    #3623338 - 01/13/05 02:51 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

That is disgusting that we provide them with aid, and once they have the aid, we are out.

I think maybe they could be grateful? :shrug: Just a thought.


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