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OfflinexIcy
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ID help please
    #3605434 - 01/09/05 08:57 PM (19 years, 1 month ago)

I think this might be an Agaricus.
Im making a spore print right now.















More pictures:
http://rain.prohosting.com/xthesite/px/

Details:
Cap - 3.5cm-5.5cm
Odor - mushroomy
Gills - pink
stalk - white
Habit - there were 3 of them on grass, not near a tree
Location - Los angeles, CA.

Thanks =)

-xIcy


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Re: ID help please [Re: xIcy]
    #3605532 - 01/09/05 09:23 PM (19 years, 1 month ago)

Yep, it looks like Agaricus. Those are difficult to ID to species, and some of them are poisonous. BTW, your links are not working:
"Error: You do not have permission to access this file or folder. (403) "


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Re: ID help please [Re: shroomydan]
    #3605719 - 01/09/05 10:12 PM (19 years, 1 month ago)

Oh I think this link should work without an error:

http://rain.prohosting.com/xthesite/px/


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Re: ID help please [Re: xIcy]
    #3605775 - 01/09/05 10:26 PM (19 years, 1 month ago)

As shroomydan said, that looks like an Agaricus.

Another thing we'll need is for you to cut the mushroom in half vertically, scrape the inside with your knife edge hard enough to bruise the tissue, then watch for color changes. They could happen slowly, up to an hour after bruising. Also, watch to see if there are different colors in different areas (make sure you bruise the entire inside). Also, it is possible for it to change to one color at first then a different color, so you should watch for that as well.

Note if the mushroom has any odor. The odor is usually strongest near where the stem and cap join, although the next best spot to check is the base of the stem. If you can't detect any particular odor, try crushing the stem base with your fingertips and try sniffing there again.

How firm is the flesh, especially in the cap? Agaricus range from almost rock hard to as soft as a marshmallow.

Finally, you say they weren't near any trees. For what we're interested in, "near" means within the height of the tree in question. In other words, if they were in a park and the nearest tree was 50 feet away and the tree was 50 feet tall, we would still say that the mushrooms were (at least possibly) growing under that tree. With that in mind, were they near any trees?

Happy mushrooming!


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Re: ID help please [Re: ToxicMan]
    #3606082 - 01/09/05 11:51 PM (19 years, 1 month ago)

It smells like a mushroom, like the ones in a store(Agaricus bisporus?)

The closest tree was...I dont remember exactly how far, but there was a small tree, but it was was not in the shade of the tree.

Ill check the firmness of the cap once the spore print is done.

EDIT: I cut it, heres the pictures of what was inside:
http://rain.prohosting.com/xthesite/px/stipe1/
I scraped it, and im waiting for it to bruse.

Thanks

-xIcy


Edited by xIcy (01/10/05 12:06 AM)


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Re: ID help please [Re: xIcy]
    #3615638 - 01/11/05 11:18 PM (19 years, 1 month ago)

Heres pictures of the spore print:





The gills turned brown:




The stem did not bruse.

Thanks

-xIcy


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Re: ID help please [Re: xIcy]
    #3615765 - 01/11/05 11:49 PM (19 years, 1 month ago)

Based on your photos, you only split off the stem to be cut in half and bruised? We need to know about the inside of the entire mushroom. The last of the original set of photos shows a conspicuous pinkish blush on the cap, suggesting that it should bruise reddish.

Unfortunately, some Agaricus species lose their bruising ability within a few hours after being picked, so it may not be possible at this point to determine.

The spore print is consistent with Agaricus, and confirms the genus.

Species is difficult with Agaricus at any time.

Many Agaricus are edible, and many are poisonous. None of them are active. The poisonous species are mostly yellow stainers, and most of them also have an unpleasant odor like phenol (or library paste or metallic).

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Re: ID help please [Re: ToxicMan]
    #3615835 - 01/12/05 12:08 AM (19 years, 1 month ago)

I cut part of the cap off a while ago and it didnt change, it got darker, but the whole thing did that, so i only did the stem that time.

Picture:
http://rain.prohosting.com/xthesite/px/o1/

At first, it smelled normal, but now it smells horrible.

Thanks

-xIcy


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Re: ID help please [Re: xIcy]
    #3617041 - 01/12/05 08:05 AM (19 years, 1 month ago)

It's probably starting to rot, so you'd be smelling the bacteria on it. If the mushroom itself it producing the odor, then it's one of the poisonous species. All of the bad smelling species of Agaricus should be considered toxic.

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