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OfflineMixomatosis
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The scientific "establishment"
    #3615957 - 01/12/05 02:46 AM (12 years, 4 months ago)

I was reading some stuff by one of those fringe scientist types. He was into researching the paranormal, and he was making all these disparaging remarks about the "scientific establishment". It's not uncommon for people to do this. They make the mistake of thinking there's some kind of big science flag waving above the global science headquarters building that houses a huge disembodied brain that holds everything that is "scientific fact".

The common complaint is that to get something accepted by the brain as a scientific truth, you have to grease palms and suck up to the man. It seems to me all you gotta do is demonstrate whatever hypothesis you have and after putting it out there allow others in the community to whom your research is relevant to test what you've discovered and then publish the results. This will allow you to upload your results into the brain.

Oh no, wait, there is no brain I forgot. Y'see, some may agree, others may disagree, nobody knows everything, and scientists can afford to hold whatever far-fetched irrational ideas in areas outside their field.

But all this doesn't matter because the truth is humans aren't as rational as they'd have us believe. Nobody has the time to doubt every scrap of information they come across, and some would rather avoid thinking hard thoughts. So I don't know what I'm talking about.

Congratulations, if you followed me this far you might feel as if you're riding the back of a dog chasing its tail. Let's all go to sleep knowing that science will solve all our problems. Or something. Was I even talking about that?


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Re: The scientific "establishment" [Re: Mixomatosis]
    #3615966 - 01/12/05 02:48 AM (12 years, 4 months ago)

So I don't know what I'm talking about.

Was I even talking about that?

I agree, and I think the answer is somewhere in the neighborhood of 42.


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Re: The scientific "establishment" [Re: Zekebomb]
    #3616045 - 01/12/05 03:05 AM (12 years, 4 months ago)

the scientific establishment doesnt like change, doesnt like new ideas from outside, and will disregard these ideas simply becuase they come from the 'outside' of their loop.

its a social hierarchy, much like the medical establishment.
a popularity contest... and you coming from the outside could possibly think of something we didnt??
you are now a threat to my popularity
ill just get my establishment to ignore your ideas.. or make them my own and not give you any recognition
so i can continue my ignorant popularity contest

ok, maybe im a little biased


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Re: The scientific "establishment" [Re: fresh313]
    #3616097 - 01/12/05 03:12 AM (12 years, 4 months ago)

but what IS the scientific establishment? a disembodied and formless will generated by the collective of all scientists? but not pseudoscientists? and sort of for fringe scientists?


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Re: The scientific "establishment" [Re: Zekebomb]
    #3616118 - 01/12/05 03:15 AM (12 years, 4 months ago)

That's what it is.. an immaterial concept that lacks self-awareness floating around in our collective and ever-shifting mindscape.

That would be a sweet predator-style movie plot. Arnie has to do battle with a huge formless and barely existant but destructive abstract concept.


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Re: The scientific "establishment" [Re: Mixomatosis]
    #3616134 - 01/12/05 03:18 AM (12 years, 4 months ago)

I got a ride hitchhiking tonight from a guy with a Schwarzzeneggar accent. he didn't talk much, and at first I was trying to draw him into conversation a bit so that I could revel in his accent, but his sullenness soon drove me to silence.


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Re: The scientific "establishment" [Re: Zekebomb]
    #3616164 - 01/12/05 03:24 AM (12 years, 4 months ago)

did he pump you up?


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Re: The scientific "establishment" [Re: fresh313]
    #3616175 - 01/12/05 03:26 AM (12 years, 4 months ago)

he'll be back


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